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My ex-wife moved to Columbia, MO and now lives in a basement apartment with her alcoholic husband and sells essential oils... Oh, you said "squatchy" things to do and not "sketchy" things to do. Never mind.

Bill Munn's work is a veritable thesus on the PGF. Gigantofootecus and Sweaty Yeti have also done groundbreaking work. Have you reviewed their work here on BFF especially those related to Patty's proportions? Look for ASH ratio and arm proportions. Some of GF's work dates back to ~ November 2005, in BFF 1.0 archives, which is about when he began posting here, if memory serves me. I'd say a very strong case has been made by all three. Can you name me anyone who has successfully explained Patty's inhuman ASH ratio and Gigantofootecus' photogrammetric analysis?

Thank you for your input. It's readily apparent you've traveled across Nebraska on I-80. It follows the Platte River valley, the historic natural roadway west, traversed by hundreds of thousands of pioneers. It's floodplain is broad and wide, and flat as a billiards table. However, if one drives a few miles north or south, out of the river valley, you'll be in hundreds of square miles of rolling hills, bluffs and draws. It's easy to miss a vehicle half a mile away. The vast majority of the state's topography is quite different from what's seen from the Interstate. Historically, this was a vast, treeless prairie. Rivers and streams would support the occasional cottonwood, but realize this area was described as "the great American desert." Trees were planted by settlers. The Arbor Day semi-holiday originated in Nebraska. Those streams run east/west. There are no north/south waterways of any significance. The fairly sparse tree-cover isn't sufficient to conceal much activity for an upright primate. Suitable digs for even the smallest family group are few and far between. Tall, midsummer corn fields? Sure, but they're ephemeral. Corn stalks become human-height probably in late July, are harvested October and November. Soybeans occupy half the available crop land. Deer and turkey are plentiful. Yes, it's possible a family group might move through, under cover of darkness. But where are they coming from, and where are they going? As I've mentioned, the only truly suitable woodland habitat exists on the eastern border of the state. These are the observations of a lifelong plainsman.

Took the grandkids on a 4x4 trip today!

The PGF isn't AI. I, for one, appreciate the daylights out of Mr. Munns' ongoing research efforts. AI doesn't enter the picture.

I read the 38 page paper and it was a good summary of the past and a good proposal for the future. https://www.worldscientific.com/doi/10.1142/S2251171723400068 I hope that they can get this project off the ground and implemented as described in the paper. Of interest was the selection of field instruments proposed and why. Interesting that they are proposing to use the Infiltec INFRA20 for infrasound detection. We discussed this instrument in previous posts. For magnetometers, I have the same concerns that they disclose about multiple possible sources (natural and manmade) for sudden detected changes in magnetic field. Need to establish a clear baseline of what is considered normal deviations. See extract below: "The choice of the GP magnetometers is guided by the goal of reliably recording magnetic field perturbations that are associated with known and unknown sources at the instrument site. This is not trivial considering that the magnetometers will be collecting measurements in the field, throughout the year, at locations that will be magnetically noisy, and in the presence of geomagnetic field variations. Examples of known physical sources include: the ionospheric solar quiet currents, which are re[1]sponsible for the diurnal variation of the geomagnetic field in the order of tens of nT; the magnetospheric ring current during geomagnetically quiet times, which generates a signal of few nT up to few tens of nT; and geomagnetic storms, which can create perturbations of several hundreds of nT. Expected magnetic perturbations from human-made sources include signals from power lines (on the order of few nT to few tens of nT within 50 m distance, Garrido et al. (2003)), electric railways (on the order of 10 nT at few kilometers distance; Ding et al. (2021); Jankowski & Sucksdorff (1996)), airliners (of order a few nT at 100 m distance) and motor vehicles like cars and trucks (of order a few nT within hundreds of meters) (Lenz & Edelstein, 2006; Chulliat et al., 2009)."

Well the DNA study shows what it shows... aside from what is said about the players involved and their apparent agendas and/or conclusions or shall we say opinions? The best ones (in my opinion) to determine (what they seem like) are the ones who have interacted with them... myself being among. First nations are spoken about all the time and they never refer to them as great apes... it varies from area to areas as to the abilities they possess etc but the common thread is that they are a tribe of brothers, a people, a community ... No one that I know refers to animals as a tribe or as people. The less talked about folks are the Amish, who also believe they (the SSq) are another nation of people... they are well aware also of what it is. They and many others believe... The Amish go back a long way with these things... Also not everything is a SSq... as we refer to it as such, there are other things connected and mingled in and around all of this....its big and complicated... cheers No they are not Alien, Nephilim, or the people that were here before us, or any of that... What exists today is a remnant of a people that HAS TO stay hidden, and has to stay a joke to the masses, and has to be fit into a very specific box (which they don't by the way) which is why under no circumstances can they be determined to be... ya dig

I heard him on that podcast also, but came away with a different view and it is not a flattering one. He sounded like a fool when pressed for details on what they would study. He came across as very amateurish when he was talking about the sound analysis. Perhaps his ideas are great, but he is not the best face of this project because he melted the second he was asked to explain something and it was a friendly interview. The other thing that really jumped out at me was when he claimed that if he were to be taken to an area with a single footprint, where nobody else could figure out where the trackway went, he would be able to figure it out. That is a delusional, unhealthy amount of ego that doesn't make me trust the results of his work. This was right after he was claiming that most of the sasquatch researchers he knows are the smartest people around, so he clearly thinks a little too much of his intellect.

They use it on other Primates…🤷‍♂️

a majority of the search for 'foot (BF) is of course at locations such as the PNW, boggy creek in Arkansas and NW canada. I wonder though if ignoring the prairie regions, 'foot is hiding in plain sight? You would think that you can see for miles in the flyover states and that a 8' tall ape/man would stick out like a sore thumb but the prairie is rolling, not flat (but try to tell that to a trucker rolling down i-80 through Nebraska) and there are plenty of 'wrinkles' in the land that can hide a large creature. 'foot doesn't necessarily need dense forest and deep and dark boggy creeks to hide in. What say YOU?

A hundred million years ago.

Rez Roads... (Omaha Reservation in Northeast Nebraska) There is more cover on the Winnebego Reservation than on the Omaha Rez, but we hardly ever venture there to go Squatching.

A very valid point. My stomping grounds are prone to lots of dead fall, and high winds a good part of the year, so you could build a crappy cabin out there with what's there on the ground. Pays to be discerning. Generally it has to be really unusual for me to look past a point. It does happen on occasion though.

Looks exactly like the areas in northeast NE that I grew up in. In the winter/colder months, one of the greenest states in the US is quite brown and bland, as you know. But once spring hits and before the fall freezes, there is a ton of green in Nebraska. Especially the eastern side. I grew up on the Elkhorn river. Large shelterbelts of cottonwood and other misc large tree's made up most our land on both sides bordering the river - but we knew these densely treed areas like the back of our hand, we basically lived in them in tree forts/camps we made in the summers while teens. Before we lived along the river, we lived literally 2 miles directly north on rolling hills/pasture land, basically the edge of the river valley over the years. Not much for trees on these types of rolling hills, except for what my parents planted there (planted most of them when I was about 1 yr old, the tree's have been quite large for decades), but on neighboring acres, there were trees and topography on quite hilly land that was not good for much agriculturally, but more scenic and with more natural cover. Mostly just cattle grazing acres, as these sections were hilly and had a lot of trees, so most of the acres were just idle/natural/trees. I am sure you know the type of land I am talking about. Just a half mile from where I grew up (the farm 2 miles north of the Elkhorn river), was "buffalo gap", a small canyon (not rock, but dirt) cut over the years into what we called "cliffs". They were very steep. Indians used to run buffalo off these "cliffs". This area was a favorite of ours growing up, as there were areas in the cliffs/hillsides of buffalo gap to have "forts" in. We used to get a group of us together often in the summers (when 9, 10, 11 yrs old or so) and have clod-war games in buffalo gap. We camped there off an on, also. We did find some bones at the bottom of buffalo gap, and I know that there used to be and had been buffalo bones found there (where the name came from), but I think we just found cattle bones. We never took the bones anywhere to find out if they were cattle or buff, of course we liked to tell ourselves we found buffalo bones. But some we took home to my parents, they said pretty much they were cattle bones. We were young enough to hope/believe differently.

Growing up in the northeast part of Nebraska, there are rolling hills, tree's, river valley's, etc. There is some habitat, but for a SSQ to live in? I'm doubtful. Farmers and ranchers know their land pretty darn well. It may be a mostly sparsely populated state (save for SE in the Lincoln and Omaha areas), but that doesn't mean the people living in those sparsely populated areas and owning the land, are blind to what goes on in and on their land. I can see some SSQ travelling through, I have a hard time seeing a permanent population. And I will echo the sentiment of I80 - not a great representation of the entire state. It once was a vast grassland mostly, but farming and planted tree's by man, which grow and spread, have changed much of what the state was 150+ years ago. The sandhills are still there in the western part in abundance, but the pockets and areas of more cover are a different environment than what was there before settlers which spurred the changing the topography.

The ENTIRE US is suitable habitat for Sasquatch. River systems and riparian planes are great habitat and provide a tremendous amount of cover. The cover of darkness provides a lot of opportunities we don't even consider, in terms of food harvesting. There are countless acres of extremely sparsely populated farm land in Nebraska. You can see a car coming for miles around. I doubt these areas are permanent homes, but seasonal abundance would lead me to believe they are around from time to time. There are sighting all over the area, although infrequent. The driftless area: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driftless_Area is something I had never heard of until I started down the Sasquatch research path, and every state has hidden wonders like this. The Driftless Area, a topographical and cultural region in the Midwestern United States,[1] comprises southwestern Wisconsin, southeastern Minnesota, northeastern Iowa, and the extreme northwestern corner of Illinois. Never covered by ice during the last ice age, the area lacks the characteristic glacial deposits known as drift. Its landscape is characterized by steep hills, forested ridges, deeply carved river valleys, and karst geology with spring-fed waterfalls and cold-water trout streams. Ecologically, the Driftless Area's flora and fauna are more closely related to those of the Great Lakes region and New England than those of the broader Midwest and central Plains regions. The steep riverine landscape of both the Driftless Area proper and the surrounding Driftless-like region are the result of early glacial advances that forced preglacial rivers that flowed into the Great Lakes southward, causing them to carve a gorge across bedrock cuestas,[1] thereby forming the modern incised upper Mississippi River valley.[2][3] The region has elevations ranging from 603 to 1,719 feet (184 to 524 m) at Blue Mound State Park, and together with the Driftless-like region, covers 24,000 square miles (62,200 km2).[4]

Sketchy? We are talking about Missouri. That is the kind of resume that will lead to local political office, if they play their cards right. In the land of meth labs, walnut bowls, and combination adult video store/firework store, they are in the top 3% of classiest people. If you are talking Sasquatch in Missouri, you should start your research in the Ozarks. Here is Rob Lowe talking about his experience in that area.

I meant to say it's hard not to see two faces.

Clearwater is where a good many things went down in my experience, also in Tarpon Springs up by the Anclote river ... They swim in the Anclote and probably all the water spots in these areas Take time to track the Pinellas trail... it leads through all of these areas and ends up in Tarpon somewhere... which is not far from Starkey Park another place where many A accounts happen. Many years ago I did a very detailed post on this forum showing the travel routes in Florida...where my encounters etc happened and when... Believe it or not they love Golf courses along the Pinellas trail to hang and do what they do back and forth. In the Golf courses they have huge trees and plenty of a sawgrass like bushy thing they like to burrow under, literally like under a carpet of roots and make a pocket in there and sleep ... anyhoo... imagine during the day when they sleep your golf ball rolls over one sleeping under the ground there and ya might have literally "chipped off a SSq" ... haha

There was a documentary on this many years ago: "Earth Girls Are Easy". Sumerian reliefs show a different view with 'Inanna' who was recorded as a female deity with a sky-ship. The silvery white metal house was used to collect and harvest people. Her handlers accused her of excessive zug-zug with earth men. Were earthmen easy? Few of us can translate Sumerian and interpretations can evolve into pseudo history. Assuming the aliens came from a home world with similar oxygen / atmospheric gases, gravity, sunlight, magnetism, ionosphere, bacteria and viruses is a huge stretch. My same comment for current ET presence. Treading water in the 'artificial mutation' by aliens pool is risky.

FFS....

Well, it's had to not see two faces.

But only one. If we have two, they will disagree and we'll be right back where we are today without a clear view of "truth." (They seem a lot like weather forecasters in that sense.)

@Incorrigible1, you're being - incorrigible

You'd be in the neighborhood for invisible sasquatch in treetops. OK, I'm being facetious. I hope you hear some better offers. Safe travels!

I think I've seen it as an AI depiction, too. Can't give you a site, though.

do you field trippers carry protection....such as a 44 mag? not necessarily to thwart an attack by a man/ape but to elimate the threat from some thrillbilly thirsting for blood? rednecks scare me more then BF

Those two DO NOT belong to the same species….. I have eye balls.🤷‍♂️ By the way, that’s Sandy Allen. The worlds tallest woman at 7’ 7” tall. She walked with a cane and was dead at 53. She isn’t motoring through the woods of Bluff creek and sleeping on the ground in the woods. (Even in winter) And she certainly does not have the bulk of Patty. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna26273478 Look at Patty’s morphology…. She is NOT a Homo Sapien woman. So if the nest’s presumably built by her species is coming back as Homo Sapien? Something is WRONG….

You sum up my feelings pretty precisely. While it may not actually be a con, the lack of follow up to supposed evidence demonstrates that at best, it is not serious. Like you, I will also still watch.

Just checked and it reached the goal with less than 24 hours to go. Fan freaking tastic.

7.62, you asked. This has been covered on this forum several times. Google the below title to visit a journal citation. It is good reading despite the age since the cameras that were tested are no longer in production. Camera Traps Can Be Heard and Seen by Animals smell color noise magnetic fields camouflage Smell. The plastic housings can absorb odors from storage / home. The mounting straps / security cables can have an odor. Python cables have a plastic covering. Plastics are made with flexibilizers or plasticizers. Plasticizers migrate out / off gas over time. Formic acid is a favorite of insects and bears. Noryl plastic and polypropylene do not absorb odors or moisture. Color of trail cameras is bad. We learned in WWII that color blind persons could detect enemy camouflage. Green is the worst because our man made green dyes can not match 'biological greens', especially near sunrise and sunset. Noise. Ultrasonic, sonic and infrasonic. Humans make ultrasonic noise when we breath and move. Wool and cotton clothes are quieter than synthetics when we walk. Trail cameras are emit obnoxious amounts of ultrasonic noise. Charging up capacitors for flash is loud. Bear boxes / security enclosures are reflector-projectors of ultrasonic noise. Plotwatchers emit a repetitious sequence of ultrasonic noise. Ungulates look at Plotwatchers when their image is captured. Shielding for ultrasonics can have a cost higher than the camera. However, the first Reconyx series called the 'Silent Image' was mounted in a 'Sea Horse' brand polypropylene case. 120 size I believe. That PP, about 1/4" thick did an amazing job of attenuating the ultrasonic noise. Sonic noise comes from the filter switching fixture when the camera shifts from daylight to infrared. As far as infrasonic noise is concerned, we are screwed. You can not attenuate infrasonics. ELF, X ELF is how Navy's communicate with their subs---- through the earth. Magnetic fields. Trail cams have switching, regulated power supplies. They have fluctuating AC and DC magnetic fields. The area of the batteries is enjoyed by ants and spiders. The color and texture of plastic housings can be dealt with. ASAT fabrics, Cambush and something we don't see much of in the US, Camohide from South Africa. The previously mentioned camo items do not reflect UV. ASAT 3D leafy fabric changes color and texture. Cambush does the same. Camohide was not developed for 'wild' animals. It was developed to hide cameras from human animals, poachers. It is 3 dimensional, has good texture and color options. Worth a look just to see what is out there. Paint your own with the DIY option. I bought the 'pine' bark. It does have a 'synthetic' smell even after being outside for a month. Less than $30 and the shipping is high. DHL out of South Africa is the fastest. The philosophy of the Camohide people is that bark pattern is second to color. Cameras are not easy to deal with. I am reminded of a forum member who stays anonymous. He placed several trail cameras on trees. When he returned to the location, the trees had been pushed over to the ground, camera side to terrain.

This is simply not true. There is a reality. And Melba Ketchum tried to pass off her work AS reality!!! Science isn’t being unscientific by questioning her work. It’s absolutely doing its job! I don’t understand this mindset. If I went to Africa and I was a vet with some knowledge on genetics and I came back with a bunch of DNA samples, tested them and then wrote a paper (in my own peer reviewed journal) that proclaimed a new novel species? And the rest of science looks at my work and says….ummmm no. So I get mad and post pictures of a Star Wars character as some sort of buttressing proof!? How is science at fault here? Dear God people if you’re going to support primatologists and DNA sampling? Pick someone, ANYONE with a proven track record! Hey look! Dr. Mayor is holding up a REAL type specimen of a novel primate species! 🤯 That’s not EGO….that’s science. It’s why my pot pie comes out of the microwave hot. It’s why I can Bluetooth my phone to my TV and watch you tube videos. It’s why we know we share 98.9% DNA with a Chimpanzee. Despite my advocacy of Sasquatch being a real creature? I’m not going to cheat and move the goal posts of discovery to fit my world view. And I am NOT going to allow my feelings or pocketbook be manipulated by snake oil salesmen.

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I thought I'd give it a fair shot, so here is a comparison file. The MRP screams still sound much more like a human/ hominin. And I'll add, like it's mimicing a drawn out crow caw. MRP ahhh scream and Lynx comparison.wav

I hope you know I was completely joking on "calling you out". I'm not in a position to do that to 90% of the people here and it's not like you're taking pictures of leaves or trying to gain a following by manipulating people by saying you are so special you can talk to groups of Sasquatches across the country telepathically. You also don't see Sasquatch in every single thing you find while you're outdoors.

How? Most witnesses are "missing".