Guest Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 I did not see this video, but isn't this story like over a year old? There was a video on a trashed campsite a while back. Maybe just not the same one?
beerhunter Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 I believe the campsite video surfaced last Summer. If it is all true, then the message from the Gubment is not to be a good Samaritan or help others in possible distress in the woods. Bob Garrett doesn't come off as cocky or fake IMHO.
Airdale Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 There were two different incidents I'm aware of that Bob posted videos about. The first was the torn up camp, and that is the one which has become the source of controversy and problems for Bob. His YouTube, Blogspot and Facebook accounts were all shut down in the last few days and he has been unable to re-open them or open new ones. The YouTube account was, as I understand it, ostensibly shut down due to pornographic content. That doesn't jibe with anything I've seen in his work, but it's the kind of charge that is easy to make and tends to stick for a long time regardless of its accuracy. The second video was an abandoned camp. It appeared the site was vacated in a hurry with a good deal of gear left behind. It was in the same general area as the first but located in the open between a small lake and the tree line. As I recall the camping gear wasn't real high end but was certainly serviceable and not the kind of thing to be dumped. The other unusual find was two clusters of fired .45 ACP cartridge cases on either end of the side of the camp closest to the tree line. Bob's thought, voiced in the video, was that it appeared as if a defensive stand was made in those positions, possibly covering a retreat to a vehicle or vehicles. It's been a year or so since I watched the second video so some of the details are a bit hazy. Unfortunately, none of them are currently accessible.
Guest ChasingRabbits Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 There were two different incidents I'm aware of that Bob posted videos about. The first was the torn up camp, and that is the one which has become the source of controversy and problems for Bob. His YouTube, Blogspot and Facebook accounts were all shut down in the last few days and he has been unable to re-open them or open new ones. The YouTube account was, as I understand it, ostensibly shut down due to pornographic content. That doesn't jibe with anything I've seen in his work, but it's the kind of charge that is easy to make and tends to stick for a long time regardless of its accuracy. The second video was an abandoned camp. It appeared the site was vacated in a hurry with a good deal of gear left behind. It was in the same general area as the first but located in the open between a small lake and the tree line. As I recall the camping gear wasn't real high end but was certainly serviceable and not the kind of thing to be dumped. The other unusual find was two clusters of fired .45 ACP cartridge cases on either end of the side of the camp closest to the tree line. Bob's thought, voiced in the video, was that it appeared as if a defensive stand was made in those positions, possibly covering a retreat to a vehicle or vehicles. It's been a year or so since I watched the second video so some of the details are a bit hazy. Unfortunately, none of them are currently accessible. Re: the pornographic aspects of Bob's youtube vids. I never watched all of them, but I did see about a dozen or so. And in most of them, they did contain footage of totally nekkid trees, with nary a stitch of clothing on them. At least as of my post today, The Big Thicket program on blogspotradio is still available.
Cisco Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 I've been reading through this thread and have enjoyed the anecdotes and opinions given. However, I can't help but feel we're ignoring the obvious. Why would a BF be responsible for the damage? It's certainly fun to think about but an average person, not into BF, would not automatically assume it was a BF. It's far more likely this was the work of vandals or even raccoons. I have some highly motivated racoons in my neighborhood and have seen them wreak tremendous damage when they want something bad enough. I did a Google search for "campsite vandalism" and there were over 460,000 hits. This would indicate there have been many accounts of these types of events and I'm fairly confident most had nothing to do with our subject of interest. The last thing I'd like to point out is the claim that our government has targeted Mr. Garret because he's a BF researcher and has uncovered a conspiracy to cover up BF violence. I don't know the man and have read a few things about his research. However, the whole thing appears to be very sensational and melodramatic. Furthermore, if this was true; why would the government allow Mr. Garret to continue discussing the matter? I'm certain, if the government really did want to keep this incident hush hush, they would send some representatives to visit with Mr. Garret and inform him it would be in his best interest to not speak of this any longer or the Treasury department could take a strong interest in his financial affairs. It does not take a lot of imagination to see the government has a lot of ways of strong arming people into keeping quiet in a legal and effective manner. Personally, I happen to think BF's are not necessarily the warmest and fuzziest creatures out there. I'm sure they are capable of doing all sorts of damage but I'm also certain these cases are few and far between.
Guest ChasingRabbits Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 I've been reading through this thread and have enjoyed the anecdotes and opinions given. However, I can't help but feel we're ignoring the obvious. Why would a BF be responsible for the damage? It's certainly fun to think about but an average person, not into BF, would not automatically assume it was a BF. It's far more likely this was the work of vandals or even raccoons. I have some highly motivated racoons in my neighborhood and have seen them wreak tremendous damage when they want something bad enough. In the video Bob Garrett took that evening when they came upon the camp, he was talking, basically, commenting on what he was seeing and verbalizing his thoughts. Again, it's been a good 6 months since I watched it, but I do recall that his initial thought was the camp destruction was due to a violent fight and called the cops. It was only when they saw things like the "X" made from tree branches, broken tree limbs, and BF type foot prints, that they thought BFs were involved. The video he filmed the next day showed damage done to the nekkid trees surrounding the camp site: broken tree limbs, snapped large saplings, upturned underbrush, etc. I'm not a woodsrunner or even a Boy Scout, but I do garden and it's not easy snapping tree limbs or large saplings.
Cotter Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 ^Again, that sounds a lot like an experience my pal had.
Lake County Bigfooot Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) So I have seen the video and heard him interviewed several times on Sasquatch Chronicles, as well as hearing the recent episodes that have filled in the blanks, Wes, host of the show said that he had inside information about the camp situation and Bob Garrett. Wes stated that 2 individuals were killed at the scene, one was beheaded, and one was stuffed in a tree, a third survived but was hospitalized for several weeks and will not discuss the incidence. I am just repeating what Wes said, and I was skeptical from the outset when he presented these new facts. I know that he is profiting from his new website, also under the name of Sasquatch Chronicles, since it's inception they have moved toward a more sensationalized show. I am extremely skeptical of everything they are presenting at present, although in the past I trusted their encounters. It will take something more than some incredible claims for me to believe what their pushing, I have stated my case in their comments, but so far am being treated like I have the plague for even questioning them for the previous statements, as well as questioning their Government Conspiracy angle that is now dominating their show. Mind you I could be open to the ideas, but the way they just expect their audience to accept this stuff without more than a shred of anything, well that is bothering me the most. I also am tried of hearing Will Jevning rehearsing his stories from the 70s while not offering any current research. I bought and read all his books and I certainly expected more of an active researcher out him, seems he has written off learning anything new and is stuck in 70s, and bashes anything that falls outside of his box. I hope that they rediscover what makes this issue relative and that is honesty and passion to learn more about these creatures. But like many who succumb to the financial possibilities being presented( uuuh Meldrum) they seem to have fallen victim to greed. Edited January 16, 2015 by Lake County Bigfooot
Guest Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 I'm not convinced that the campsite destruction ever occurred, in fact, stating it more strongly, I think it's a hoax. There seems to be no connection between Bob (or Robert) Garrett and any murders or any torn up campsite and murders. If this happened it should have hit the local news and be available via web searches even if the physical evidence were covered up. Further, I saw the videos before they were taken down. They raise huge red flags. Way too "Blair Witch". This Bob Garrett, if that's who was in the videos, was not acting like any veteran researcher I've ever been in the woods with acted documenting evidence. It was posturing for the camera, that's all. MIB Why would he do that MIB? Did or does he have something to gain or lose from this behavior of his? Will there be a movie or documentary made so that he can profit from this? That could be why he took down his videos so he can now charge people for viewing? People like this give decent researchers a bad reputation, and that is just too sad for all involved.
MIB Posted January 16, 2015 Moderator Posted January 16, 2015 I have no idea about his reasons. He may have more than one. I'm realistic about risk. I don't scare easy, I don't panic, I don't over-react. I also don't do denial. If something legitimately caused me the level of concern he seemed to show in the video I saw, I would not have my kid out there exposed to it in the dark one second longer than necessary. It seems totally irresponsible. Then on the other hand, maybe he just has a weird accent and I'm misreading his excitement level. The claim of a murder coverup is the final straw. Laughable. MIB
chelefoot Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 I don't remember anything about any bodies in the videos. Good to see you posting, Cisco!
Guest ChasingRabbits Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 So I have seen the video and heard him interviewed several times on Sasquatch Chronicles, as well as hearing the recent episodes that have filled in the blanks, Wes, host of the show said that he had inside information about the camp situation and Bob Garrett. Wes stated that 2 individuals were killed at the scene, one was beheaded, and one was stuffed in a tree, a third survived but was hospitalized for several weeks and will not discuss the incidence. Was that included in the members only podcast? Because I don't remember that being said in the free podcast.
Lake County Bigfooot Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) Yes, I must admit it, I gave them $14 of my green stuff, and it probably was on the "down the rabbit hole part 1 members edition"(having wasted 14 bucks it seems a bit ironic the title) or it may have been a show or two earlier, I will try to find that clip, I do not know if I can pirate it, but if I can I will. Oh I know how, never mind. I will try and post it here soon. Maybe a bit more than the clip might be needed. Well anyway it was clearly stated, though not whether Bob actually found the bodies at the scene, but he did say blood was found at the campsite. So we got something to chase down here. Obviously there should be some kind of police record if two people were actually killed, or some news print. If it is not pure sensationalism, and actually true, that might vindicate the show for spending so much time building up the conspiracy angle, partly I think that they realized the show was lacking an incentive to pay for more content, so this could be simply them trying to grab the almighty buck, not uncommon to this community. At $7 per month x several thousand gullible listeners out of the 10s of 1000s, well it adds up real quick. Edited January 16, 2015 by Lake County Bigfooot 1
clubbedfoot Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 ^^^^ But Mr. Black says.....that show totally jumped the shark.... 1
Lake County Bigfooot Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) I promised and I delivered, this is the clip from show 68 members(states 2 individuals were killed and one survived), which is discussing the Bob Garret campsite incidence with greater details, some of which I will not vouch for, read my previous posts to see where I stand on this issue...Wes discusses what apparently was told to him by Bob Garrett, or at least that is how Wes portrays the situation, if this is true, which I somehow doubt, then all bets are off for my camping trip this summer. If a government cover up is involved this post will no longer be available in the near future.... DR0000_1173.mp3 Edited January 16, 2015 by Lake County Bigfooot 1
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