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Haven't seen this posted here yet so I figured I would throw it out for a look. I've been one of a few coaching this kid since his discovery (primate DNA in the forest of the UK). Here's the article from his EDNA sample results. I'm really excited for the kid, just 14 and already having tremendous success on the hunt. https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/uk-world-news/daniel-barnett-14-year-old-8832631?fbclid=IwAR2PjEkxRcxkz0cAPQvWVOaE30L0qrEDMED3y6lvJc3lIJbfxZTCI0YGKLY

What's got me most intrigued about the whole thing is the old world primate DNA they pulled. That shouldn't be there, as you well know, and Daniels father works in law enforcement. It's illegal to own such creatures in the UK and we're working toward comparing it to zoo a couple hours away to see if there's any kind of illegal pet trade with primates going on in their neighborhood. I work in the exotic pet trade here in the states and I also help in drafting of legislation to protect native species, DWA (dangerous wild animals), and exotics. So I'm also lending a hand in that area as well, if there's not a match from the zoo then there's a black market pet ring near by. Daniel is a very smart kid and even he isn't sold that it's bigfoot because of the area he's in, but there IS something that's not supposed to be there. That's where we come in, we're helping to guide the kids path and keep the interest in science and looking into the unknown alive without just bashing the "Bigfoot in the UK" concept against the rocks. Most recently, they found scat in the small 8-10 acre woody area. Visual ID, It's bear scat. A bear in the UK brings up nearly as many questions as bigfoot would and it's also in the same area as they found the impression on the ground that he cast which has quite the round and arched toes.

I'm not sure that the "woo woo" reports change anything for me. To clarify, I'm not saying that I completely reject the whole notion of all things "woo woo." I'm not one to believe whole-heartedly that something isn't possible. Science doesn't work that way. However, I will say that I think there really isn't any reason to give that serious consideration at this point. Species are being discovered all the time. Species that we had thought were extinct are being rediscovered and I haven't heard any anti-BF arguments (for example: why don't we find a body) that are really all that compelling. I live in an area where bear, mountain lion, bobcats and deer are endemic but in the 20 years I've lived in my house, I've seen a bear maybe a handful of time and a mountain lion and bobcat once each right around my house. the idea that a wild animal can't possibly exist because it fails to give us the type of visual proof that we, as highly visual creatures, seem to need is absurd. Most wild animals have learned the hard way that the smartest thing to do is avoid humans. At this point, the "woo woo" stuff feels like a distraction that fails to accomplish anything.

No field trip this weekend, but a great meet up with some of the local researchers at the appropriately named Sasquatch Inn for a dinner and gab fest. Besides my wife and I, Thomas Steenburg, MagniAesir and his daughter, and Robert "Stryder" attended. The food was good, as it always is there, and the conversations went on for over 2 hours, mostly Sas related. We didn't solve the mystery, but had a great time chewing away at it.

There’s a disaster waiting to happen. But the silver lining will be predators eating an occasional liberal.

Ok i've just read the article, i didn't realise the slant to it and the boys condition until i did but my points regarding the UK on the whole do stand. This is clearly more about the kid and the unfortunate issues he has, with his family and you (and others) supporting him in every way possible to make things better for him, which is absolutely cool of course, but this isn't about Sasquatch or any type of unidentified primate in the UK and i just wouldn't want people to lose sight of that and get hung up on this 'discovery' is all i'm saying..

I was wondering when Norseman was going to find the articles. The eDNA bubble was popped a long ago. Humans contaminate the collection area and the sample(s). Period. A huge change in sampling techniques has to occur. Media dollies in scripted, choreographed tele-plays can't do it. The young person in the UK has a lot of enthusiasm and hopefully will tell adults to bugger-off. The name of the youth appears as 'Daniel Lee' and 'Daniel Barnett'. Either way, Dan is on a mission. Perhaps he will find traces of the infamous 'big cats' of the UK. Atypical results may or may not indicate escaped / abandoned exotic pets. There was a post(s) on this forum about a smart person in the UK who reported a glimmering / cloaking incident in the proximity of a nuclear power plant. Could be worth some search button time.

I have never seen the work of Chris Noel (that he posts on his YouTube channel titled "Impossible Visits") until last week. The title of his 2-year old documentary video "How to See a Sasquatch" piqued my curiosity, so I watched the 1 hour 38 min video (see link below). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlpssL94Gso&t=627s Unfortunately, what the video showed was how folks who have BF in their brain can be self-deceived by noises and animals that they can't identify and how random tree debris can become BF tree structures in their mind. IMHO, none of the evidence presented in this video was indicative of BF presence. Nonetheless, Chris gives the impression that these creatures live very close to his neighborhood and every odd noise or odd tree structure that he runs into is made by the sasquatches. I think this video is a good example of the dangers of wishful thinking when going out in the field looking for evidence. Even if folks are knowers, they need to slow down when it comes to alleged evidence. They should subject the evidence to some type of peer review before publishing/sharing it, and realize that their observations are truly biased by their beliefs. This documentary climaxes in what is supposed to be a sasquatch climbing a tree. However, other video reviewers have examined the creature and have determined that it was a porcupine. Despite the alternative hypothesis of a porcupine (which is very convincing and in my mind conclusive), Chris did not back down and revised his original claim, but instead created another video to support his claim. Below is link to Chris Noel's 2nd video, insisting that the creature is not a porcupine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB9a5H9sFP0 This looks really sad, and should be a warning for all those researchers out there publishing YouTube videos to slow down and get expert wildlife reviews before jumping to conclusions. Brent Dill, who runs "The Tall Ones" YouTube channel with a critical thinking hat on, reviewed this claim 2 years ago and posted 2 good critical videos. See links below. I think he makes a compelling and clear case that that video footage was of a porcupine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogj-W76-Xo4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyhKTBZCFK0 In conclusion, wishful thinking and subjective biases are dangers that all long time researchers (who believe in the reality of sasquatch) have to deal with and be attentive to.

I hear Bigfoot calls that are obviously coyotes all the time, recorded by researchers. I have viewed hundreds of pictures of leaf faces on this forum. I I have seen pictures of what I call Forest divots attempting to be cast….. I approach this from a hunters standpoint. I don’t ascribe Coyote calls to Elk, because I am not after a recording. I don’t take pictures of bushes that look like Elk, because I am not after bushes. And I don’t make a fuss over ancient forest divots filled in with pine needles. I need FRESH sign! Because I need to make physical contact with what I am hunting! Elk hunting isn’t about showing off your Bull Elk hoof cast at the next Elk conference. Or lots of pictures of bushes that look like Elk. No. It’s about a head on the wall and meat in the freezer. And I have been there! I’ve been that hunter that has chosen an area where Elk were 6 months ago, but they ain’t there now. Very frustrating. Looking at old sign every where. Maybe as researchers advance in skill? They will start to better discern the noises and sign in the forest? Maybe there will be an internal drive to separate the wheat from the chaff? Let’s face it. Most people have nothing in common with the woods anymore. But I applaud a subject like Bigfoot challenging people to go out and explore and learn. But we as a community need to be patient with them. As far as pro Bigfooters seeing a Bigfoot under every bush? I think it’s all about ratings. Which is why I worry about manufacturing evidence with these shows. Unlike Elk there is always a nagging suspicions with Bigfoot…..could this be a hoax?