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Camped last Saturday night in one of the quietest places I can remember. One Pileated woodpecker and a couple of others and that was it. Found a large track way but we're pretty sure it was melted out Moose tracks. Distance between toe-to-toe was about 48"-51+" so ruled out Black Bear. Still a bit early for them anyway: The tracks themselves weren't all that well defined: On the way into the second campsite on Sunday we had to cross a causeway connecting two bogs. We scoped out the site and then walked around to do some exploring. Nothing, and so we drove ou

In my opinion, not being together yields the best results. We are all think tanks. We approach things differently and we view how we get to the end result differently. Do we want one think tank or one thousand think tanks? One mouse trap or the never-ending search for a better mouse trap. In my opinion, the best result is achieved by a thousand think tanks working separately but sharing their methods and results.

I am still waiting for them to appear 🙃

Without any intention to belittle Bob's thoughts and statements, the film's empirical evidence conclusively afirms that the film is authentic and was not hoaxed, staged, or otherwise manufactured to fool people. The film itself, properly analyzed, affirms that it was a spontaneous and unplanned encounter with something biologically real, as it appears, and was not a human in a fur costume. So the film's authenticity stands solidly and conclusively, regardless of what Bob may have said, or thought.

I'll repeat what I've said before. Patty is the female appropriate to the male I saw in '76. Patty is the mother appropriate to the juvenile I saw in 2013. All were different, not identical, but biologically aligned with the correct differences and similarities. They were not hoaxes. I do not believe the PGF is a hoax but if it was, how did those cowboys manage to create a suit, out of materials that didn't exist yet, to so perfectly fit with what I saw? Until someone answers that to my satisfaction, I can't take the notion of the PGF being a hoax seriously in any prac

Right! Back in the 70s my mom had an old 126 camera. It was truly see-point-shoot ... pretty fast. With my digital cameras today it is see-turn the power on-wait for the beep-point-wait for focus-shoot. So while there are many many more cameras out there today, because they are slower to go from "see" to "photo" by several seconds, most sightings will be over before there's a chance to get anything. If you try to rush them, you just get a blur. Those old film point and shoot cameras did not require time to focus, they were fixed focus. They had a mechanical, always ready, shutter

Lol. Moneymaker probably isn't anyone who I would want to spend a lot of personal time with... but this jealousy of and bitterness towards anyone who has gained a certain amount of fame or attention in the field is kind of cringey. Actually, it's not kind of...it is. Get a popular podcast? There's a segment of people on here who will hate you. Go on television is a cryptozoology related capacity? There's a segment of people on here who will hate you. It seems like a lot of you guys spend a lot of hours looking into Bigfoot related media that you ab

Our new film is out and available to rent or buy on Vimeo. It was filmed in Stevens County in 2019.

Headed up to a favorite place early this morning to enjoy Second Breakfast in the woods where we've had some activity before. Nothing this morning except fog, cold crisp air and hot coffee. Here's one minute of nature therapy!

Attention shoppers! smokingdino doesn't care what anyone says or is showing here. Everything just gets ignored and the game continues to role on. How's that working for everyone?

"If only this forum had a member who was versed in the creation of special effects and making monster suits (and the make-up needed for the face) who was intimately familiar with the techniques and materials available in the 1960s who could tell us if making this suit was even remotely possible." Actually, the forum does. I just need to run to the pet store and get a pound of troll food.

Thought I'd put this up to show that if one is going to cherry pick something then one should cherry pick EVERYTHING. Because if they did they would run across stuff like this which shows toe flex as well as calf musculature and its flexion as well. Do the work, smokindino:

Hi, I don't post much here, but I agree. I was searching the web for ideas, ideally open source based. ESRI (ArcGIS) is super easy, but costly, and if you wanted to perform advanced filtering or on-the-fly analysis, it will cost you server credits (aka $$). For context, I'm a GIS analyst with some programming experience. I am (slowly) in the process of learning full stack development. I'd love to help build something, but I only know a little about a lot right now. However I am teaching myself. There are some great/cheap classes on Udemy for wed mapping development. Most focus on l

I don't really care who comes in and wants to set up a debate on the PGF whether it about the suit, the camera, the film subject's height, the footprints, or...whatever. But I do know this, put a 6' Human in a Bigfoot costume and match them up with the film's subject. In order to do that the person in the suit would have to somehow pop their shoulders out an additional 5" on each side in order to reproduce a natural arm swing at their "new" full shoulder width of 28". And that feat HAS to be accomplished somehow in order to have their elbows in their correct natural positions below the upper a

Smokingdino: in reply to your notes above: 1. So they set out to shoot a documentary film...using how many reels of film? Roger had been shooting a documentary for most of the year, bit by bit. I've got six other reels of footage he shot, and I'm sure there's more. And Roger set out to Northern California specifically because of the Blue Creek Mountain trackway reported two months before, which he hoped he could film. Other than the trackway, he was simply exploring, as he had done on numerous other expeditions. He had two 100' rolls of film stock on this

It doesn't sound like he is 'suggesting' anything, rather he is making the allowance that there is a possibility, however slight, that Patterson could have hoaxed him. Sounds like an honest man still trying to come to grips with a once in lifetime event decades later. And I am with Incorrigible here...your thread title screams AGENDA.

The thread title rubs me the wrong way. This isn't the "gotcha" you were looking for.

A) A “real” silverback Gorilla is a REAL scientific extant species. Bigfoot has not yet been confirmed by science. So the hypothetical comparison is a moot point. It’s not the same. If I saw a African Gorilla knuckle walking around the PAC NW, the wrong continent? No matter how real it looked? I would be looking for a zipper. B) Your logic seems to make a loop. Bob believes he saw a real creature that day. But it’s never been confirmed by science. After roughly 30 years at the time of his statement. Bob isn’t allowed to have some doubt creep into his mind? I’m not sure how his dou

As far as the original post goes the bioluminesance comes from luciferin, you could ingest as much of this as you want but unless its augmenting and overwriting DNA it won't cause any other creatures eyes to self ignite. Now, if it were pigment related that would show it self similar to flamingos and their color being directly related to the high amounts of keratinoids. Say the food sources were jet black, that may cause darkining of skin, hair, and other pigment influencable parts of the anatomy. As for the self illuminating eyes, we typically add these to a completly different c

back on topic. I bought the ticket. I'm going both days. I am prepared to be disappointed but will be happy to be hanging out with BF peeps again. The package includes the Friday movie, that I'm watching now on Amazon Prime. What was I thinking? lol The last "published" report from Nebraska is mine, so I should be a celebrity, right?

My girlfriend said she loved camping when we first started dating. What I later learned is that her idea of camping was a luxury RV or in a campground with shower facilities. We compromised and I brought along a port-a-potty when we tent camp.

Right! I love camping. I've camped as a reenactor with my clothes, knapsack, haversack, rifle, knife and bedroll. Sleeping on the cold cold ground, so to speak. And up to tent camping in canvas or modern stuff. She didn't pick me, and I didn't pick her because of camping. But I did ask, and she said, if the Russian wife likes to cook and clean, she's welcome to join the team. LOL Can't get anything past this woman.

Me, personally, I think we're done, here. I don't care to indulge this person further intercourse. His agenda is crystal clear. He's not interacted in any other aspect of the BFF, when answers and explanations are made to his contentions, they're ignored. I'm moving on. To the author: Take your coup and mosey along to whatever cesspool you emanated from.

SHUT ER DOWN, BOYS! WE'RE DONE HERE!

Yeah, that's what it is, Dude. You're freaking brilliant. Fifty bloody years of biologists, moton picture creature builders, anatomists, primatologists, and other experts, and it was you who finally figured it out. Thanks for that.

Thank you guys so very much....it's been a rough week, it really affected our family, we were her Pack, but will remember the good times, and I will cherish my last hike with her:)

The difference is a silverback gorilla is a known animal, one that can be readily observed in captivity. Sasquatches at the present time have not been scientifically classified, and thus that can potentially leave some doubt in the observer as to what exactly they saw. You are comparing apples and oranges. And yes, your premise is flawed. In fact, we are looking at flawed in the rear view mirror from 100 miles away at this point. I second Bill's call of troll. This is a troll thread.

No offense. But you know like .000001% about the PGF, Bob Gimlin, Roger Patterson, Bluff creek or for that matter the subject of Bigfoot.

Backdoc: What you asked about is exactly the difference between a genuinely open-minded inquirer and a troll. The open-minded person does want to learn, and does embrace the new knowledge when it is provided. The troll just figures that strand of spagetti didn't stick to the wall, so the troll just throws more spagetti (ideas) to the wall, hoping one of them will stick. As I was the person answering the question about Roger's camera, I was hoping the one who asked would show some willingness to learn about it and temper his skepticism at least a little, because his rema

Looks pretty darn interesting, just wonder how much is fact and the rest speculation: Here is the writeup on EW, which tells me its got a good chance to attract many who haven't thought much about Bigfoot but love a good horror story, EW + Hulu might give this story legs and also a quite bit of controversy of a murdering Sasquatch: Many people are skeptical enough of Bigfoot's existence, but what about a murderous Bigfoot who tore three men limb from limb? Journalist David Holthouse calls the urban legend "the craziest story I've hea

As well as sightings and nest finds, and over a 9 year period of time. Patterson had found and casted prints in the area four years before his film was shot. Why don't you show us a pic of those prints? Purported hoaxed prints in the area do not make Patterson's prints or film hoaxed regardless of how much you wish them to. Actually, you have it backwards: are we really supposed to believe that it's just a wild coincidence that a hoaxer was hoaxing prints in the very area where a series of sasquatch events occurred immediately after the timber indust

@smokingdino you keep claiming the film and prints are fakes without presenting evidence to back up your claims. Just because you say so doesn't make it true. On the contrary, numerous books have been written by individuals infinitely more qualified than you and I to analyze these matters (for instance William Munns, Jeff Meldrum, Grover Krantz, John Bindernagel etc...) which present an abundance of overwhelming evidence which suggests that both the film and the prints are genuine. Are you a physical anthropologist? Are you a Hollywood costume designer? How about a wildlife biolog

you have clearly never watched a documentary, because locations and documentation is kinda the whole point. without it the subject matter just falls flat. who wants to watch a documentary about pandas filmed from someone's back yard in Oklahoma? no one. if you making a documentary about a subject you go to the hottest spot for said subject to be observed or had been observed recently . there were reported trackways in bluff creek roger wanted to find and document ( the root word of documentary surprisingly). there's a literal mountain of film analysis and PGF threads that explain the answers

If they can produce infrasound, I would think it logical that they can hear it as well. Thunder can produce infrasound. From: http://lightningsafety.com/nlsi_info/thunder.html "The dominant frequency of thunder energy is in the 100 Hz range. Thunder occurring in the infrasonic range (below 20 Hz) is inaudible to humans. Infrasonic thunder is considered to be related to sound conversion of energy stored in the thundercloud electrostatic field. Thus, thunder’s expanding hot gas channel produces an over-pressure (we hear it) while the electrostatic-pressure release mechani

I think sasquatches are smart enough not to waste energy. They must coordinate hunting with the current weather conditions. I'm told they check their meat-e-r-ologist daily!

Welcome to the forums! I would like to give my opinion on your questions. 1) Fear. Fear makes humans do illogical things. I remember the story of the skier on Mt. Hood. Your alone or lagging in a group you turn around and a Pleistocene monster has stepped out onto the trail. You try to scream for help and your voice fails you. And instead of running uphill to your friends you bail over the side running through the brush and head long off a cliff. Or fall into whitewater. Or maybe the monster pursues you and you lose the foot race. I’ve seen people with that kind of fear

I will find the quote when I get home this evening, but a gentleman involved in the study of these things stated that he had absolutely no doubts that a flesh and blood creature exists and will eventually be discovered. He referred to these creatures as Bigfoots or Sasquatch. He also made a clear delineation between flesh and blood Bigfoot and what he classified as 'wildmen'...i.e. those creatures who seem to have more in common with accounts found in folklore than with undiscovered primates/ hominids. Mindspeak, cloaking, portals, etc. don't appear to be traits of a terrestrial

Anyhow back on topic. DNA can be weird.

I think that's probably a bit of an over statement, especially on the religion and govt front. Most the bigfooters ive met in person are quite the religious bunch, and the govt would likely just pretend it never happened lol. This is nearly impossible. They are all protected sites these days and this is why: 20 miles down the road from me 180 mounds once stood, today there are 3 left all of which the center chambers had been excavated or partially excavated. These three are where 7-7.5 foot beings were found wearing very large copper adornments around their wrists and copper pla

@Arvedis So my wife is a teacher and the US Govt has 100% controled the info taught in classrooms for the last 15 years. Its done through stamdardized testing, if its not on the test its not taught. Which is why classes like home economics, civics, and economics are no longer taught in schools. They simply are not on the tests. Even textbooks have been formated as such, if its not on the test its not in the text either.

If there are any undiscovered mounds left they should not be disturbed. Whatever historical authority should deal with it in it's own time and underfunded kind of way. `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Have great efforts been exercised to suppress the knowledge and remains of Giants or Bigfoot? My bet is no but regardless, good luck to anyone finding the freezer. Is there a conspiracy to hide the true history of the Earth? How would the info be hidden? Outside of dictatorships and communism, governments general

Hello 🤩 I have for a long time been intrigued by the PG film and with the latest use of computers and other technology we can now have a much better understanding of what the film shows. I did my own analysis focusing on the height of Patty using the latest in measuring applications by photo or film to a high level of precision. Given some unknown factors like the exact position of Patty in the film we can only make a pretty good educated guess and assumptions. Still based on eye witness reports over the years BF height has always been reported as of a very tall stature. I provide m

This was pretty good. It's only 30 minutes or so. Here are some bookmarked highlights for faster browsing: approx 7:00 - mention of unexplained events in the field but no specifics approx 10:30 - background on the tree structures found approx 13:20 - edna testing approx 17:30 - lab reactions approx 29: - the long road to scientific acknowledgement

Some Bigfoot enthusiast had a sense of humor. Went on a Jeep trip into the desert on the Barry Goldwater military range near Yuma, AZ today and spotted these stickers on a few targets

Actually Dr. Mayor answered those very questions in her latest video. I think she is being sincere. Perhaps I was too rush to judgement since the press release does reveal quite a bit on second read. However, I do expect to be disappointed since I'm not jiving with the show. I think the most amazing part of this not a blip of a reaction on social media. I have not seen anything at all, not even on the show's own postings with promo clip. Not a reaction from anyone at all so far in bigfootery that I have seen except here.

^^^^ That is what many of us are doing as part of our field work. So far as the "missing" skeletons, can you imagine the questions that could be answered by running DNA tests on the marrow, etc that might remain in the bones? Wow, treasure chest of answers.

Maybe what we see aren't really eyes, but exhaust vents for a coal-powered furnace that operates a steam engine within the torso of the creature. Skepticism is welcome, but even good things can be taken a couple steps too far.

Some claim to. Most of them don't believe in them. Scoftics /skeptics .

If any one is interested in the the episode we recorded for the podcast heres a link: https://www.wildandweirdwv.com/podcast/episode/4c328091/bigfoot-investigation-wineberry-site