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I just looked back at all of the posts I made this year. There are nearly zero posts in any actual bigfoot discussion. I do read most of the threads, but rarely react. It may seem as though I've lost interest, but I haven't. I just don't participate in the discussions. About 90% of my posts are about BFRO or John Green incidents. 9% are stupid memes in the tar pit, and maybe 1 % are a reply to any actual discussion. My thing here is the SSR. I have a bunch of BFRO reports to classify, but I have very little time in Spring and Summer, so they remain unclassified. It's a Winter project for me... I did just share some new audio though. I recorded some interesting sounds in Oklahoma. As far as Noobs go... I find that it's best to wait it out when a new member comes along that really tries to engage in discussion. Too often they showed up just to be a disruptor.

One of the things about many noobs that frustrates me is they don't do their research before posting, they throw stuff up that has been rehashed countless times as if it has to be new and startling to others merely because it is new and startling to them. There's a significant component of narcissism and entitlement there. I'm old, tired, and short-fused when it comes to that level of disrespect .. and it may be that a lot of long established members are in the same boat choosing to disengage rather than react to it.

I tried guys, even had researcher of the year contests with $3000 prizes, advertised on google, reprinted research papers with permission, etc and it kinda of worked. But new members wouldn't stick around, they showed up for the buzz and then leave. I agree that the problem is a lack of new discoveries. Even hoaxes would get the forum busy, remember Biscardi?

This is a drawing of my first encounter. Late 70's, so no cell phones. I have explained it before, but thought a drawing of it would help. I will post the drawing and then post an explanation a little later.

I was a pretty prolific member for a while. I still check in semi-regularly, but don’t feel the desire to post much anymore. For me, it’s the overwhelming negativity on a topic that is supposed to be enjoyable. The overall Bigfoot community is growing larger every day, but it’s also becoming more fragmented every day as well. Even this thread, which is about why is the forum dying, is filled with complaints about pretty much everything under the Sasquatch sun. TV shows, YouTube, rehashed topics, etc. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes, but there is a constant complaining that permeates the Bigfoot community that often turns into outright hostility when what are relatively minor differences arise. People who believe or have an interest in Bigfoot should have a great deal in common, but instead those minor differences of opinion cause a lot of discord. Don’t like Mountain Monsters or Expedition Bigfoot? Don’t watch it. However, shows like that plant a seed of interest in a new generation, insuring that there is a fresh crop of enthusiasts who will hopefully carry on the search. TV executives don’t really make shows geared towards real life Bigfoot researchers. Maybe just be glad that the subject has enough mainstream acceptance to make its way onto television in any form? Tired of a topic that (for you) has been beaten to death? Scroll past it. Are you a flesh and blood proponent irritated by the Woo? Are you a Woo supporter who hates the Apers? Well, at the end of the day you both have more on common with one another than you would have with a skeptic. Not to mention that we are dealing with almost zero proven facts about the phenomenon, so you both have a good chance at being somewhat correct. A lot of the members here want a more active forum, with more active participants. You can’t have that with multiple filters put into place. Anyway, I would like to see the forum become more active again. But, to do that you need new members who stick around. They need to enjoy the place to do that. Maybe start there?

For me? The problem with new members is that many of them are trolls. You never know if they are asking a question in good faith, or are setting up a gotcha moment. So I would say I have become somewhat jaded with new members unfortunately. Back to the forum in general. I do not possess the tech saavy to run this forum. But as long as Gigantor sticks around for the tech stuff? I pledge to keep the lights on one way or another. Just like the jet boating forum Mean Chicken, this forum is a repository of knowledge that I do not want to see extinguished.

I was also encouraged by this episode of Expedition Bigfoot. These samples may be the first of their kind for Bigfoot. I will be glued to the screen when Season 7 begins. Christina Burns is the DNA Profiling Facility Manager at the International Forensic Research Institute of Florida International University. She should be well qualified to do the DNA sequencing. Her human-like preliminary results are what I found in aquatic eDNA, which, however, is less definitive than a blood sample and more extensive sequencing. https://case.fiu.edu/about/directory/profiles/burns-christina.html

I have been watching forums die a slow death for years. I.e. The old jet boating forum Mean chicken is gone. Along with it all of its extensive knowledge. The younger crowd doesn’t do forums for some reason. They stick with social media. And then cry about censorship, etc. I just don’t get it. I find forums like these much easier to navigate and interact with.

Speaking as myself, not a mod, not representing forum management, I don't care about the number of posts, I care about the quality / quantity of new information. I get sick and tired of rehashing the same old stuff. What is needed is not more talk, more posts, what is needed is something new to talk about, something worthy of renewed engagement, renewed attention. MIB

Interest in many things comes in waves, ebbs and flows. Is it possible your time of joining the forum coincided with one of the peaks? I know this to be true of my own. Thinking of a parallel .. no athlete runs 4 minute miles 7 days a week. It is true of our interest here. I think the period we are in now with less interest, less bright shiny things to draw our attention, is more representative of bigfootery over the long haul. There is also a change of medium when it comes to information exchange. There are TONS of small bigfoot groups on facebook. Lot of people trying to monetize their interest which I think distracts from the larger communities like this one. There is not much to do but get out there and do your own thing in the woods.

The BFRO refers to this as the "Northwest 911 Call" and says the recording is available on Ron Morehead's bigfoot recordings CD. (https://www.bfro.net/avevid/sierrasounds/911.asp) On Morehead's website the description of the recording is confusing at best. The site says, "On Track 10, Ron placed an emergency 911 call that is completely unrelated to the story but nevertheless it provides the listener with a live eyewitness account of an actual sighting." ... which sounds like Ron heard the story and then faked a 911 call to dramatize it?? This is news to me. If I'm reading this right, that voice we hear on the 911 call is Ron Morehead pretending to be the witness he and Peter Byrne interviewed. It's a sketchy thing to do, in my opinion. Judge for yourself: https://ronmorehead.com/about-bigfoot-recordings/ Someone please correct me if this is inaccurate. Gotta say, though, the 911 caller sounds similar to Morehead.

I haven’t posted in ages and rarely comment, but I am watching. Willing to bet there’s a lot of others on here doing the same. Casual lurkers make up sizable chunks of any forum

Thank you for sharing. No matter what that impolite poster said.

I feel like this person(s) has 10 more sock puppet accounts loaded in his gun.

Any audio, video or photos posted here are stolen by internet keyboard warriors. Posting is a choice. Keep in mind that this forum is an internet message board, not a research site. I think that newbies visit expecting instant answers. There are a lot of smart people on the BFF and there is no expectation to post daily, weekly, monthly or longer. Just keep checking back. There will always be haters. Trolls self destruct on the BFF, some sooner, some later.

Do you think contributing to this forum is making posts about hoaxes, circle jerks and insulting researchers? And this question also goes to our members that liked his post? Or where do we draw the line with “Troll derangement syndrome” as Foxhill put it? Why do you do it? Why can’t you be amicable?

@norseman Cool. I'm down in that country (north of the border) for the first time in my life this week - the last part of BC I haven't spent time in. A few days of work in Cranbrook and Fernie, about 100 miles north of Kalispell. Man, it is beautiful down here.

For the record, Reddit is a dump, designed to elicit one word replies and ruled by leftist statist trolls who would as soon set you on fire as entertain your opinion if you don't strictly follow the populist zeitgeist. R/Bigfoot is thus a cesspool of short attention span theater with constant repeating deluge of AI garbage, repeated photo posts and people who can't be bothered to Google something. It's fine that it exists, it keeps that kind of idiot off here.

I agree many online communities can be described this way. it's certainly true of open source software development communities. But if we look at bigfootforums.com as a 'brand' that people hold a certain impression toward, we can look at the site's direct competitors for members -- say, r/bigfoot -- and see if ChatGPT gives us the same or similar description of that online community (prompt and response pasted below). Of course, this is ChatGPT and its pulling mainly from reddit for its response; there's certainly bias here -- actually, it reads like an advertisement for r/bigfoot. I'm not saying one brand's impression is better than another. Brands (including online communities) should be positioned differently to stand out as unique and attract certain customers or members (e.g., Ford vs Toyota vs Tesla). Go to X if you want this kind of experience; go to Y if you want that kind of experience. I guess my point is that bigfootforums can fix stuff internally (server crashes, search capabilities) but the external image might also need to be considered. This would depend on what image BFF wants to have among its competitors... and what kinds of members it wants to attract and retain. "Come to BFF if you want some good ole American in-your-face confrontation and arrogance. Go to r/bigfoot if you want European civility and kindness... and then kindly **** off." That's just as an example of course. Back in my marketing research days there was a story about Coca-Cola many people would paraphrase. It went something like, "The CEO of Coke once said that you can take away all of the company's facilities, equipment, people, and other assets. Just leave me the brand name and I'll be just fine." ------------------------ ChatGPT on r/bigfoot Prompt: Can you give me a description on current attitudes and perceptions people hold toward the r/bigfoot subreddit as an online community? Response: The r/bigfoot subreddit is a vibrant and inclusive online community dedicated to discussions about Bigfoot and related phenomena. Established in December 2009, the subreddit has grown to become one of the most active platforms for Bigfoot enthusiasts, researchers, and skeptics alike. Community Atmosphere and User Experiences Members of r/bigfoot appreciate the community's openness to a wide range of perspectives. The subreddit encourages civil discourse, allowing both believers and skeptics to share their views. A recent post highlights this inclusive environment, stating: "Believers and skeptics alike are welcome here, and friendly discussion is highly encouraged." reddit.com This approach fosters a respectful and engaging atmosphere where users can discuss various aspects of Bigfoot lore and research. Moderation and Governance The subreddit maintains a clear set of rules to ensure constructive discussions. The primary rule emphasizes civility:reddit.com "Please keep all discussion civil. First infraction you will get a warning. Another incident will result in a ban." reddit.com This policy helps maintain a welcoming environment for both new and long-standing members. Content and Discussions r/bigfoot hosts a diverse array of content, including personal encounter stories, analysis of audio and video evidence, discussions on folklore, and debates on the authenticity of various claims. For instance, users often engage in critical evaluations of purported Bigfoot sightings, discussing factors that may contribute to misidentification. One user questioned the tendency to label certain evidence as fake, prompting a thoughtful discussion on the criteria used to assess authenticity. lirias.kuleuven.be+1reddit.com+1reddit.com Additionally, the subreddit features lighter content, such as Bigfoot-themed art and humor, contributing to a well-rounded community experience. Overall Perception Overall, r/bigfoot is perceived as a supportive and engaging community that balances open-mindedness with critical analysis. Its inclusive nature and emphasis on respectful dialogue make it a valuable space for anyone interested in exploring the mysteries surrounding Bigfoot.

In a previous life I worked in market research, mainly conducting attitude surveys regarding brand names in various product/service categories. So when I think about changing interest levels in bigfootforums.com, I wonder about the site's brand image. In the absence of a full-blown marketing study, I just asked ChatGPT to tell me. (response pasted below, screenshot attached). Looks like there *might* be a few issues that deter new members from joining and/or sticking around. It's helpful to keep in mind that if a new (or even a long-time) member feels slighted here, they could go over to Reddit and bad-mouth bigfootforums.com. -- that one slighted member has turned off possibly hundreds of prospective members. ------------------------- ChatGPT prompt & response Prompt: Can you give me a description on current attitudes and perceptions people hold toward bigfootforums.com as an online community? Response: As of mid-2025, BigfootForums.com appears to be inactive or offline, with users reporting difficulties accessing the site since mid-2024. reddit.com Community Atmosphere and User Experiences Historically, the forum was known for its stringent registration process, requiring new members to post an introduction and limiting them to one post per day until reaching a certain threshold. This approach, while intended to deter trolls, was often described as convoluted and discouraging for newcomers. Long-time participants observed that the forum tended to be dominated by a small group of regulars who were often skeptical of outsiders. This led to perceptions of the community being grumpy, combative, and resistant to differing viewpoints. Moderation and Governance The forum's moderation was perceived as heavy-handed by some users. There were instances of users being banned without clear explanations, leading to frustration and, in one case, a user threatening legal action over their banning. thelaw.com Content and Discussions Despite these challenges, the forum hosted in-depth discussions on various Bigfoot-related topics, such as audio recordings and field studies. However, the overall tone of the community may not have been conducive to open and inclusive dialogue. Current Status Given the reported inaccessibility of the site since mid-2024, it is unclear whether BigfootForums.com will resume operations. For those seeking alternative platforms to discuss Bigfoot and related phenomena, communities like the r/bigfoot subreddit may offer a more inclusive environment.

Guilty as charged. For me it probably does come down to my feeling that I have expressed my opinions as frequently as I have wanted, and absorbed a huge body of opinions and facts to the point of satiation. For that I am grateful to the BFF and all who keep this thing up and running…Norseman, Gigantor, et al. Thank you! I wouldn’t say that I have moved on, exactly. It is more about freeing up bandwidth for more/other interests. Speaking of…OT shameless plug for my son’s band: The Mountain Grass Unit Jam Grass and BF just seems to pair nicely. They are right now rolling from Gainesville, FL to Sanford. Told them to keep their eyes peeled in the Ocala NF, don’t you know?

reddit is run by fascist dictator moderators who ban anyone they don't agree with politically. given that most conservatives are banned, and given that most hunters are conservative, they have priced themself right out of most of the encounters.

I don't have a smartphone; I think it would be harder to use this format on a phone. Does anyone even learn to type anymore? I agree, oldies like us used to like to have discussions at length, for days or more. I mostly blame social media, which has damaged attention spans and increased sources of information. Another reason could be progression of knowledge; people learn answers to personal questions and move on.

I love to see how my (admittedly very incomplete) data for just over 1200 reported encounters in the mid-Atlantic to northeastern United States and eastern Canada lines up with other data. I have more reports for this area than the than the BFRO because I've included historical encounters, encounters reported in books, and encounters from numerous other websites which are not (publicly) reflected in the BFRO website. I don't know if they privately incorporate these reports, but if they are a data-based research organization, it would make sense to use all the data available. 2. Other Notable States: * Pennsylvania 130 reports (BFRO) 368 reports (Trogluddite's data) * New York: 121 reports (BFRO) 262 reports * Maine: Not in Top 10 92 reports Temporal Trends 1. Seasonal Distribution: Summer accounts for approximately 34% of sightings, making it the peak season. I have 30% of sightings in the summer Fall follows with around 27% of sightings. And 30% of sightings in the fall Winter and spring have fewer reports, possibly due to reduced human outdoor activity. Winter has 17% and spring has 14% of all encounters. I would say that its likely that both Bigfoot and humans reduce their outdoor activity in the winter. That spring is the lowest % of sightings surprises me given that humans likely want to get outside again. However, Bigfoot may be even more secretive than usual IF that's when their offspring are born. The missing 9% of encounters are due to the fact that many so-called research groups and/or online reports lack basic facts. 2. Yearly Trends: TrogGPT is much less smarter than ChatGPT, so I'll just note some highlights * One can find 86 descriptions of what could be encounters with Bigfoot before 1900 in the limited geographical area I focus on * Not unexpectedly, there are less than 100 reports of "escaped gorillas" or wild men from 1900 to 1950 * The decade with the most reported encounters (not necessarily reported contemporaneously with the encounter) was the 2000s with 344 Lunar Cycle Correlation I find this data very difficult to trust. For example, some data sets use a default date, such as the first of the month, if no specific date is given. In other cases, witnesses have forgotten when exactly an encounter occurred; while some can describe the situation accurately, many can't. Additionally, weather conditions, terrain, and the local environment all help determine actual moonlight one can see, so a witness's statement that "there was very little moonlight" doesn't necessarily tell us what the lunar cycle information accurately. Out of just over 1200 reports, a concrete date was only reported in (or could be extracted from) 328 reports and of these only 183 occurred between dusk and dawn. (There is a reason I include lunar cycle data for daytime encounters if a concrete date is available.) * 41% of nighttime encounters occur when lunar illumination is less than 25% (i.e., first and last six days of a lunar cycle) * 23% of nighttime encounters occur during the peak of lunar illumination (i.e., before and after the full moon) I won't keep going. What I find interesting is that different datasets relying on different encounter reports still produce relatively consistent results. NorCal, I salute you for finding an innovative way to crack data - it would be interesting if this could be applied to the SSR. I also curse you (jokingly) for reminding us that computers are on their way to making us all a Captain Dunsel.

Hello all! Would anyone like a ticket to the Metaline Falls Bigfoot Festival? I've decided that it's just too far for me to drive. Message me. K

There are more people than ever who are involved with investigating the topic on a pretty serious level. Lots of small facebook groups focused on trading ideas on equipment and techniques. Theories and experiences. a forum setting would probably be more suited to that type of discussion, although I guess Facebook does have the convenience factor. Heck, there might be a way to introduce the BFF to some of those folks

When it seems too good to be true.............. https://people.com/celebrity/bigfoot-tom-biscardis-sasquatch-hunting-company-valued-at-10b/ Biscardi, and it began with ammonia in his shoes.

No. One can post what they want the public to view. Un fortunately, the entertainment genre has created a cesspool of work. The advancements in artificial intelligence are impressive but the fantastical animal creation artwork is just artwork in an era when the long term researchers want the facts......'just the facts ma'am'.

This outing hurts, because I could have possibly seen one doing would knocks, but not understanding squirrel behave, caused me to use misjudgement.

Not in my book. I didn't bother to research his seven posts because it was clear from just one that he didn't have the capacity, or the intent, or both, to add value to the conversation. Interesting dichotomy. Does it have to be exclusively one or the other?

Well, speaking as someone who has never contributed, but has been reading the forum on and off for years, I used to come here when I became aware of something happening in the Bigfoot world to see what people here were saying about it. I'm not desperately seeking out Bigfoot related stuff but things like Biscardi, Ketchum and Sykes would come to my attention through other media. While those were going on I'd be a regular visitor. For the past few years, nothing like that has happened. I occasionally look here to see if there's something I have missed, but there really never is. And as far as the general media is concerned, it seems that Bigfoot might as well have ceased to exist.

Everyone say good bye to Cedar. Another troll. He posted a thread on how we are Nazis. He made fun of Doug’s drawings, he said another poster drove a white van, so forth and so on. If I am being draconian? I sure would like to hear how and why.

Thanks for the report Doug and I could visualize your climb along the elk trail and what an interesting find. Here in southwest Oregon the upper regions of Elk River near the town of Port Orford look the same as the attached picture of the area that you were in called upper Mill Creek Park.

This one is kinda long, so I will do it in chapters. I don't like long typing sessions. Chapter one: The area and events leading up to the encounter The events occurred near the extinct townsite of Valsetz Oregon in the east side of the Oregon Coast range 16 miles from the nearest town, which is Falls City. It was in the early 90's and I was bow hunting with several different people over a period of time. On more than one occasion, we would hear wood knocks frequently above the townsite on the south east slope of Sugarloaf mountain and near the cliffside of Rooster Rock. Wood knocks were becoming common in our hunting area. We had not heard them before that we could remember and we had no idea what was making them. The incident I will relate happened to the south east of Rooster Rock about maybe three miles away on what is known as the Valsetz Flats. There are old logging roads that had grown over and was now basically wide ways with a well worn game trail down the middle. My brother and I were bowhunting and decided to walk up a gated logging road that would take us from the Flats to Fanno Ridge. We hadn't been on this road in many years, so we wanted to hunt up it and it's side roads more for nostalgic reasons than anything, though, at that time, elk were abundant in the area.

Amazing, I think many people would trade their sighting just to see a Bigfoot butt crack in the hillside ecotome, lol. No seriously, the fisherman confirming the scenario would be a cool read if in the BFRO or other database? Do you recall whether the fisherman could detect gender, and are you certain that could not have been cleavage of another sort? Just funning you here of course. Thanks for the report and drawings. It is possible @joebeelart is familiar with this sighting and/or stomping grounds. Joe?

My family and myself went on our annual Easter picnic with a group of families to the upper Mill Creek Park located mid way up the Oregon coast on the east side of the Coastal Range west of Dallas Oregon. The park no longer exists and is now a grown over clearcut, but at the time it was in old second second growth Douglas fir as well as old growth fir and hemlock. Once we were there for a while, my buddy Jeff and I decided to explore the steep hillside across the road from the park by using "elk highways" going along the hillside. These elk trails were cut into the bank and about 3 feet wide from decades of use by elk, deer, bears and all manner of critters. The park was located at the confluence of Mill Creek, Cedar Creek and Camp Creek many miles into the wilderness. The hillside in that particular spot, was very steep and filled with layers of forest duff. If you were to descend the slope, you would take a step and slide 3 to 5 feet, then take another step and slide another 3 to 5 feet on down to Camp Creek, causing quite a swath of fresh earth displacing the forrest duff. The foggy coastal air and this fresh dirt lent to preserving a butt, hand, forearm, and heel prints into the bank very well. We came across such prints and were amazed at the size of them. Standing in the heel prints the butt print as high as my shoulder blades and much wider than my back. Its forearm, from elbow to wrist, was a bit longer than my entire arm from my shoulder to my fingertips and the palm of the hand was bigger than my entire hand with my fingers stretched out as far as I could stretch them. The fingers were fairly long and spread out wide. I don't remember thinking the thumb was out of proportion. But why would I analyze that, not knowing what to look for? It had come off of the upper road, sliding down this hillside, came to rest with it's heels onto the elk trail, which caused it to suddenly stop, falling backward onto the freshly disturbed bank with it's butt and forearm and pushing off with it's hand and continued on down to the creek. We tried to rationalize every scenario we could think of, but nothing fit. Was it a giant hunter? There was no hunting season going on and the heel prints were not boot heel prints and the butt print had a distinct crack as if naked and not clothed. I giant fisherman? What fisherman would go through the difficulty of descending such a hillside, when they could easily access the creek from the lower road. And the whole naked butt, no boot print thing too. We later concluded that it had to be a bigfoot. A very uncomfortable conclusion, but the only one that made sense. I never told anyone about this for a long while. The thing that cemented to me, that this could only be a bigfoot, is what my mom had to say about 3 days later. She came into the room my brother, dad and I, were sitting and said she heard on the news that a fly fisherman was fishing one of the creeks by the upper park the day after our picnic and when he came around the bend of the creek, he saw a giant bigfoot standing in the creek. I think that is all I have on this.

Could be worse, my wife claims I fell out of the ugly tree, climbed back up, and fell down through it again. Or, as GeorgeM alluded two, maybe some of the old retired guys could start paring through stuff to find the golden nuggets to highlight and to pack off some of the other stuff into a second Archive. Is it time to create BFF v3.0?

Bear with me; I came up 20 years doing things a certain way and the first step is clearly identify the problem and the second step is come up with possible solutions, no matter how outlandish. 1. What is the problem? a) That we don't want the Forums to collapse as a going concern, or .... b) We want more comments, interaction, etc. I see these as slightly different questions - e.g., can the Forums continue having an online presence at a relatively low cost. Are costs low enough that they can be covered by relatively few dedicated members or even undedicated viewers who have an incentive to pay a $20 entrance fee? Or will the whole thing collapse without an inflow of new paying members. Perhaps another way of asking the question is "what should the Forums be?" Back in the day when I led units or offices, I always said, "I want our unit/office to be the place that other units/offices come to when they can't figure out what they're doing wrong. We find and overcome problems that others can't. I would love for the Forums to become that kind of resource for Bigfoot research. 2) What are possible solutions? I'm just going to put one out there because Backdoc hit on the solution I would turn to. Revamp the current Forums to make it more of an exacting reference source. A few examples of the knowledge this Forum has, but gets buried with the 38th thread on the same question include: a) Highlight the Bill Munns' material that's already here (with his permission of course) so that people get an introduction to the technical aspects of the P-G- Film b) Offer a clear timeline of the P-G- Film or other major events c) Build out Tirademan's historical archives. I now have over 100 old reports that either he found and are not included in the BFF 2.0 Tirademan section or that I don't believe he found. d) Have a section detailing (in layman's terms) the elk/Bigfoot body cast arguments (sorry, I'm a bit foggy on that one) Backdoc is absolutely correct in observing that this place is an encyclopedia of knowledge, unfortunately a lot of it is arranged alphabetically by height and weight. It's impossible to find. Curating (sorry for using that word) the information could provide everyone who has time to do so with projects that add to the Forums' value as the go-to online place for Bigfoot knowledge. Having a reputation as a key, unbiased source could help drive traffic. Okay, I've flung the first glob of mud against the wall to see if it will stick. And I apologize for doing so after being absent for such a long time. But like GeorgeM, I am retired now and can devote more time here. Feel free to discuss or not; I've got to go outside to attend to new and old items on my honeydew list.

Well, from my perspective, I think it is the simple fact that there is nothing new happening in the field. There are no big events such as a major sighting caught on film or DNA evidence being reported. And when the only t.v. exposure is the ..imho...dismally overdone and woefully laughable "Expedition Bigfoot" (the twin sister of Mountain Monsters) where the principal actors are always thisclose to catching one only to have it vanish into thin air...why wouldn't the subject turn into a joke or piece of fluff entertainment? Why would people want to "waste their time"? Hell, Sasquatch is everywhere now as a pop icon from stickers to jerky to toys to tv and i think that hurt the credibility of the subject as well by making it kitschy. I listen to the B&B podcast and I think some interesting, new evidence is being readied for presentation in the comments Cliff makes about certain research. Hopefully then, new life and new blood will perk things up. When Norseman collects a body for us...then you watch how active this sight becomes.

It sounds like most of us can agree that the Bigfoot Forum is losing steam and people aren't responding as much as they did before. There are lots of old-time members that had one star or many, and they have dropped out of the Bigfoot forum. Most of us that have responded to this thread agree that this is a problem and rather than letting it fade like a setting sun where Bigfoot Forum takes a slow-motion death dive until no one else is responding that we open a new forum section. In this Reach Out section, we contact professionals in government, universities and private practice who have an interest in primates and wildlife. There are many on this forum who are still working and are responding to other forms and simply don't have the time to participate in this forum anymore. The Patterson Gimlin film came out years ago and created a huge interest in Bigfoot so the forum has been very active ever since. Now we can sit back and wait for another Bigfoot event to happen such as a capture or bringing in a body and the form may light up again. Now we can sit back and wait or we can create a plan to keep this form alive in the meantime. Now a suggestion that I have is for us to do several things that may help rejuvenate the forum. 1. If we have the emails of all forum members, we can have a committee that can recontact old members that have dropped out and invited them back on and let them know the rejuvenation plan. Do we have their emails? 2. Another thing that we can do is to lift the forum up to professional scientific level where qualified individuals post and regular forum members with three of more stars by their name. We invite professional people involved in primate studies or who work in environments where animals live such as zoos, wildlife parks, government foresters etc. This committee can email them and invite them onto the forum and post their qualifications. Now this would be a special forum section were these professionals are vetted, and we post their credentials along with their forum name. in conclusion, I'm 77 years old and retired. I have time to work on this plan. There are other retired members on the forum who have extra time and smarts to push the forum ahead. And some of us can take on various duties that involves some of the suggestions that I've come up with. Now I apologize for using my first name rather than coming up with some Bigfoot name. It's too late for me to change, but you can also think of me as George of the jungle.

I recently explored BFRO report data and found this trend (chart below) in Class A (good evidence) and Class B (questionable evidence) reports interesting, particularly the primacy of Class B reports after around 2005. I'm curious about the forums' thoughts regarding factors driving this pattern. Was it: - change in the types of witnesses reporting encounters (probably due to greater access to Bigfoot information via the web) - change in BFRO investigators -- i.e., more critical investigators reviewing reports - change in BFRO protocols for classifying reports -- i.e., more stringent criteria for Class A - something else? Any other observations worth more attention? The decline in Class A & B reports after 2005 to levels last recorded in the 80s is intriguing, too. I would have thought the running of Finding Bigfoot (2011-2018) and then Expedition Bigfoot (2019- ) would correlate with more frequent reports rather than fewer. NOTES: Data pulled from Kaggle: https://www.kaggle.com/datasets/mexwell/bigfoot-sightings/data Report data available through February 2023, hence the low rates that year.

This caught my attention, since my topic post w/ graph showed an observable downward trend. Looking back on my data, code, and graph, I discovered I had mistook the date field as the submission date, when in fact what the Kaggle author called 'timestamp' is actually the reported sighting date. I should have caught this. The submission date is not available in the dataset I had used. The trends that AI pulled from Reddit are based on what the Redditor called an updated dataset relative to the one I used. This updated version has a submission date and a messy sighting year field (e.g., 2022, 2014-ish, 2001-2002, 1987 and 1994, 2011, etc.). The updated version also cuts off at 2021. There are other differences between the datasets, but here's what I found in terms of AI's response: Yes, there was a spike in 2012, though these were largely Class B sightings. My guess is that this comes from heightened awareness from Finding Bigfoot, which premiered in 2011. The downward trend resumed its course after the spike in 2012. Yes, there was an upward trend but it reversed around 2005. Here's my updated graph with correct labeling (LEFT) and a graph I created from the 'updated' data linked by the Redditor (RIGHT). Note that i had fewer records to graph (on the left), as I removed any records missing a date/year value (due to the witness unable to recall the encounter date). The graph on the right, since it's using the actual submission date (rather than the encounter date), had far fewer missing values (roughly 1000 more records to graph). BFRO launched in mid-late 1990s, and this is reflected in the near-zero submissions prior to then (righthand graph).

I asked ChatGPT to evaluate the BFRO sightings database. Here is what I learned: 📍 Geographic Hotspots 1. Washington State Leads in Sightings: Washington has the highest number of reported sightings, with 726 entries, accounting for approximately 12% of all reports in the BFRO database. Peregrine Chai 2. Other Notable States: California: 463 reports Florida: 344 reports Ohio: 327 reports Illinois: 304 reports Oregon: 261 reports Texas: 259 reports Michigan: 226 reports Pennsylvania: 130 reports Colorado: 131 reports New York: 121 reports Georgia: 145 reports 3. Regional Patterns: The Pacific Northwest (Washington, Oregon, Northern California) is a significant hotspot, likely due to its dense forests and mountainous terrain. The Great Lakes region (Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio) shows a higher percentage of visual sightings, with creatures seen in 38% of reports compared to the national average of 28%. Mid-Atlantic states (New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland) have a higher incidence of auditory reports, with creature sounds appearing in 31% of reports versus the national average of 23%. Peregrine Chai+1Axios+1 🕒 Temporal Trends 1. Seasonal Distribution: Summer accounts for approximately 34% of sightings, making it the peak season. Fall follows with around 27% of sightings. Winter and spring have fewer reports, possibly due to reduced human outdoor activity. Reddit 2. Yearly Trends: 2012 recorded the highest number of sightings, with 191 reports. There is an observable upward trend in reported sightings over the years, which could be attributed to increased public interest and awareness. Reddit 🌕 Lunar Cycle Correlation Reports decrease significantly during the full moon and new moon phases. Environmental noises (e.g., wood knocking, rock clacking) peak around the waxing gibbous phase, just before the full moon. Reports where a creature is both seen and heard peak just after the full moon during the waning gibbous phase. Peregrine Chai+1BFRO+1 🧍‍♂️ Witness Demographics and Activities Many sightings involve individuals engaged in outdoor activities such as hunting, fishing, camping, or hiking. Reports often come from individuals familiar with local wildlife, enhancing the credibility of their accounts. Encounters frequently occur in remote or less-traveled areas, reducing the likelihood of misidentifying known animals. 🐾 Behavioral Patterns and Physical Descriptions 1. Common Behaviors: Vocalizations: Screams, whoops, and howls are frequently reported, especially in the Mid-Atlantic region. Wood knocking and rock clacking are noted as possible forms of communication or territorial displays. Rock throwing and tree shaking are sometimes reported as intimidation behaviors. Nocturnal activity is common, with many encounters occurring at night.Peregrine Chai 2. Physical Descriptions: Height estimates range from 6 to 10 feet, with some reports noting creatures approximately 2.5 times the height of a deer. Descriptions often include a gorilla-like appearance, dark or reddish-brown fur, and a strong, muscular build. Movement is typically bipedal, with a swift and agile gait.New York PostThe Sun+2Axios+2Midland Daily News+2 🗺️ Environmental and Geographic Correlates Sightings are frequently associated with areas abundant in deer and elk populations, suggesting a potential food source. Remote, forested regions with ample cover and proximity to water sources are common locations for reports. Geographic features such as swamps, caves, and mountainous terrain are often present in sighting locations. AxiosOregon Bigfoot 🔍 Recent Notable Sightings 1. Michigan (May 2025): A father and son reported encountering a 6-foot-tall, ape-like creature near Plum Creek in Monroe County while bow fishing. The creature was described as having dark fur and was seen leaping from a tree before fleeing. BFRO investigator Matthew Moneymaker deemed the witnesses credible. Midland Daily News+1The Sun+1Midland Daily News+2The Sun+2New York Post+2 2. Connecticut (October 2023): A resident in Fairfield County reported hearing long-duration whooping sounds matching previous Sasquatch recordings. The incident occurred near Monroe in a forested area, with the sounds lasting up to 10 minutes. BFRO classified the report as credible and a Class B sighting. BFRO+7New York Post+7BFRO+7 These patterns and trends provide a comprehensive overview of the characteristics and distribution of Bigfoot sightings across North America, as documented by the BFRO. I found the lunar correlation very interesting. seems like Sasquatch like dark nights. never heard of this relationship before.

r/bigfoot is god awful. avoid at all costs unless you want to infect yourself with redditor disease. infact, most of reddit is pathetic and terrible. I get a lot of info and different perspectives from this forum. I think more people are watching youtube channels for info on the subject. I love it here and don't miss the extra people.

Quote from the BFRO link, bold mine. The points above I pulled out are all good, common-sense and logical. We are talking about thirty years ago. Perhaps the youngest the witness could be at this time is around 70, likely more. Ron's been in many interviews, I remember him once saying that the witness later moved away.

^^^^^ All correct. However........ 1) If this recording was a hoax or "re-enactment" of a call nobody can locate, there is no "conspiracy", or....... 2) If an officer responded and found no evidence of anything, the incident disappears into the nexus of millions of such calls throughout the PNW over a decade or so, even if filed in a box in storage, or........ 3) Any number of other such scenarios where nobody (especially a law enforcement agency) cares about the call and recording, and........ 4) Would scoff ("cover up") if a "bigfoot researcher" showed up with a FOIA demand which would require lots of valuable resources to research and find, and which wouldn't really prove anything even if found. Personally, I find the recording and story very entertaining, but ultimately, like so much other bigfoot evidence, is essentially worthless for anything other than entertainment. No need for s "conspiracy" if government is wise enough to think likewise.

"It's taken heroic means to save the Condor. It remains to be seen if we can save it long term or increase the population in future decades. It's a lot easier to trap or grab those last few condors in the wild and try to get them help they needed when they were almost extinct. This has helped," Backdoc "The Tapanuli orangutan (Pongo tapanuliensis) is considered the world's rarest ape. There are fewer than 800 individuals left, and they face a high risk of extinction. The Tapanuli orangutan was only discovered in 2017, making it the first new ape species found in over 80 years," Google "Yes, Gigantopithecus, the giant ape often associated with Bigfoot, is extinct.Fossil evidence suggests it went extinct between 295,000 and 215,000 years ago. While some believe Bigfoot might be a surviving population of Gigantopithecus or a similar creature, there's no scientific evidence to support this," Google Hopefully Sasquatch has enough of a viable population like the Tapanuli orangutan in order to be discovered someday. It's a matter of time before Bigfoot is proven to exist by capturing one or a dead specimen brought in. The Patterson-Gimlin sighting and my personal sighting has proven to me that bigfoot exists, and I don't expect widespread belief. My sighting report is in the Northwest sighting section. We are impatient and discovery may not happen for another 200 years, so in the meantime we keep the door open, keep up the field work, and gather evidence. Someday a sick or dead Bigfoot will found and brought in for examination and final proof. My days are numbered at 77 years old so please get the evidence and proof so we can be assured that bigfoot will be protected. I would like to know if the Tapanuli orangutan was captured or shot, then approved by zoologist as a new species.

Long time Norcal. You had an injury at work a long time ago. How is that recovery doing? I always try to have a bottle of Hibiclens on hand. Cuts and scrapes in industrial scenarios can be troublesome.

I think Myrsell is/was refreshing too. Saw him present also. Think he runs an aquarium out near Ocean Shores. BF and Beyond went the premium pay route so not so enamored of them anymore, you gotta make a living I understand but the rehash gets old when you are a paying customer. Wish them luck, I still tune in on occasion. Bobo is Bobo, in small doses preferably, lol. Even though I had a highly irregular sighting I still cringe over many paranormal issues in the field even acknowledging the Skinwalker Ranch stuff is hard for me but I am faced with the evidence and where it leads. Pruitt is a good guy and was part of a team assisting me with a sighting locale prior to my sighting (I believe he trained as a paramedic too).