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https://www.science.org/content/article/mysterious-orange-lipped-monkey-discovered-deep-congo-rainforest-new-species I'm surprised that this doesn't have a thread yet. It seems tangentially relevant. This line I found interesting: "The Likweli monkey was first caught on camera in 2008, when a research expedition snapped a blurry photo of a black-pelted primate they didn’t recognize." That's right folks, all started with a blobmonkey!

^^^ This is a point Anna Nikaris has made about Bigfoot. She discovered some similar primate in Asia herself a few years ago. Never know what is out there.

Talked to my son tonight and we may be deployed to Tonasket. Thats the Sinlahekin fire.

Hey Backdoc ... good questions. The answer is nobody really knows. I'll risk speculating though. Back in August of 2011 when my then-new buddy Bill and I did our first backpacking trip we had some activity. From laying on my back, my sense was the big guy coming toward / into camp was traveling at least 10-12 mph and was doing it walking, not running. I say that based on the slow cadence of the steps and the immense amount of ground he was covering. So .. guessing .. if they were pushed, I would think they could cover upwards of 100 miles in a day. That's not a long term sustainable speed because it doesn't leave time to gather calories but in a burst, at need, I think it is possible. Depending on what they are eating and how long they have to slow down to gather it, they might well maintain our walking speed while traveling and foraging. I don't think they move that fast most of the time, not on average. In that same area where we had the camp visits, activity often starts between August 15th and 20th and persists into early September, then tapers off. I've had sparse "action" 'til around the 20th-25th of September some years. The next canyon over, maybe 6 miles away, I've had at least hints of potential bigfoot activity past the middle of October. I don't think they maintain a set speed. I think they go faster when they're not finding concentrations of resources and they slow down when the grub is good and the hiding is better. Unfortunately that doesn't give the simple and constant numerical values for speed / distance your question seems to ask. From mid October into Christmas or beyond they sorta disappear. If it is the same "guys" they pop up in two places. One is about 40 miles across fairly open country (with a huge lake in the middle) so I assume they skirt it on one side or the other. Reports there go into spring then stop. The other stays along the foot of the mountains .. a smattering of reports through winter .. and seem to pass back over the crest in a lower area and return to this closer side, then swing north a little. In neither case are they making big miles, probably averaging less than one mile per day, though I doubt that's at a steady pace, again, could well be driven by ease of gathering calories. Bill followed up on one report seemingly from a member of the group that goes through that saddle and comes back to this side of the mountains. That was right around Christmas and was in the saddle. That saddle is, for whatever it is worth, probably 5-6 miles only from where one of those fire crews saw the bigfoots following them to and from the fire line in the dark. That is near enough valley bottom that perhaps they are not part of that group / gathering either. I could be over-connecting dots that don't belong together. Itsa risk! MIB