Guest bsruther Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 I'm pretty sure most, if not all of the Matilda footage was obtained prior to Erickson being there by the rural home owners, who had a habituation thing going on there. Not sure where I heard this from. Anyone else heard this? I would consider it semi-rural. It's surrounded by small cattle farms, not too far from residential areas.
Guest believer Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 In my eyes, this is no hoax. First of all, there is much at stake. Reputations, investments, etc. Why did folks sign non-disclosure agreements? What strikes me the most is the Georgia hoax and what is Sylvanic. These are folks who realize they cannot stake claim to scientific proof or compelling evidence. Mr. Erikson gains more as the person who finally did the seemingly impossible. He needs to get on 60 Minutes, Nat. Geo, etc. Something tells me this will happen. What occurs next is important. Protection of the species needs to be legislated both Federally and state-levels. We at this forum need to make this happen.
Guest Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 In my eyes, this is no hoax. First of all, there is much at stake. Reputations, investments, etc. Why did folks sign non-disclosure agreements? What strikes me the most is the Georgia hoax and what is Sylvanic. These are folks who realize they cannot stake claim to scientific proof or compelling evidence. Mr. Erikson gains more as the person who finally did the seemingly impossible. He needs to get on 60 Minutes, Nat. Geo, etc. Something tells me this will happen. What occurs next is important. Protection of the species needs to be legislated both Federally and state-levels. We at this forum need to make this happen. You can go to DiscoveryChannel Influencer and pitch the idea.... Just saying....
gigantor Posted April 7, 2011 Admin Posted April 7, 2011 Protection of the species needs to be legislated both Federally and state-levels. Why? we can't even get a decent picture of it now. It is obvious that if it exists, it is doing very well on it's own and needs no help from the bureaucrats.
Guest Sallaranda Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 Why? we can't even get a decent picture of it now. It is obvious that if it exists, it is doing very well on it's own and needs no help from the bureaucrats. I completely agree. I don't understand why so many Bigfoot "researchers" make this their slogan. I think it's just a way for them to disguise their ulterior motives. IE Todd Standing who is actually a hoaxer and just wants the attention. Erickson has made it abundantly clear that he wants species "recognition" as opposed to species "protection".
Guest Bigfoot Proof Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 I don't think there is a hoax, I just have a worried thought, honestly when I head the description of 'Matilda's face, eyes and mouth moving' then we see her walk away... that just sent out a jolt to me. I can't explain it. I don't know what Melba has been privy to, (any video from Erickson) but if she has any reservations what-so-ever going by what she has seen .... then she needs to distance herself from that project asap and continue with her own separate DNA/RNA evidence conference. I have no doubts about Dr. Ketchum AT all, she is someone highly trusted in academia.
Guest believer Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 I know the rarity of encounters. What happens when someone tries to justify killing one. I believe there should be a legal deterrent. I have to justify my use of force. They protect other species as well.
Guest Sallaranda Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 I don't think there is a hoax, I just have a worried thought, honestly when I head the description of 'Matilda's face, eyes and mouth moving' then we see her walk away... that just sent out a jolt to me. I can't explain it. I don't know what Melba has been privy to, (any video from Erickson) but if she has any reservations what-so-ever going by what she has seen .... then she needs to distance herself from that project asap and continue with her own separate DNA/RNA evidence conference. I have no doubts about Dr. Ketchum AT all, she is someone highly trusted in academia. What about the biologist on the project? Why would she partake in a hoax just years after getting her PhD?
Xion Comrade Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) I completely agree. I don't understand why so many Bigfoot "researchers" make this their slogan. I think it's just a way for them to disguise their ulterior motives. IE Todd Standing who is actually a hoaxer and just wants the attention. Erickson has made it abundantly clear that he wants species "recognition" as opposed to species "protection". Well I will try to add some logic to the idea of getting recognition...hopefully...Most people do not know they exist, most people do not want to know something this big scary and intimidating exists, most people no matter what the evidence states will(Reasonably I might add) see them as a major threat in the outdoor areas much moreso than any other animal. I think they will plausibly get a bad reputation just based on how ugly, massive, and scary they are in appearance, and still yet much more so due to their passive-aggressive behavior against unwanted intruders. All of these things tied together, and the formula comes out that simply making them known to the general public, probably 90+% of the American population, will instill unreasonable and uncalled for amounts of fear in people, thus leading to people looking at them badly, and thus feeling free(er) to kill them when they are spotted. Happens all the time, we or any apex/dominant species happens into a region populated by a pest, threat, or just something it feels nasty towards, it will make sure to fix that problem I predict, and you can quote me, that they will not be well received, that that any information the public can obtain about them will be merely to learn how to avoid them altogether, preconceived notions will overcome logical thought(As typically happens), and these things will be hunted/disadvantaged whereas before recognition they would not have been(I am saying on a relatively small scale hunted, but still. IE Farmers shooting them when they come around livestock or crops seeing as they do seem to wear that stuff right out XD) I predict that this will be mostly because of their frightening appearance and intimidating size as well. This is a plausible situation, that must be accounted for given the delicate situation here. I believe that along with enlightening people with their existence, it is still yet far far more important to teach people at length about the behavior of them, and to research this diligently. We need cold hard facts, even on video, that the vast majority of these things will not harm any person under normal/non hostile situations. As I have stated many times before, given the evidence and some logic, I do not believe that your average run of the mill Sasquatch means a human being, child or man, any harm whatsoever and will go through length to make sure such a thing does not happen(Careful around people). I think that this is almost entirely impart to superior intelligence to other woodland creatures. But as I have also said, I do not want anyone to ever take this assumption for granted, as a human life is simply to valuable to risk over A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G, especially over something so small in our big giant world as the Sasquatch. I would hate for someone to be taught they are harmless, run up and give one a hug and get stepped on, their blood would be on the hands of the teacher XD You just cannot trust something this big toooo much, a person is far to easy to kill/maim. I do believe that everyone should see one at least once, as this is without a doubt, one of the most incredible things about our big giant planet. Edited April 7, 2011 by Xion Comrade
Guest bsruther Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 I predict, and you can quote me, that they will not be well received, that that any information the public can obtain about them will be merely to learn how to avoid them altogether, preconceived notions will overcome logical thought(As typically happens), and these things will be hunted/disadvantaged whereas before recognition they would not have been(I am saying on a relatively small scale hunted, but still. IE Farmers shooting them when they come around livestock or crops seeing as they do seem to wear that stuff right out XD) I predict that this will be mostly because of their frightening appearance and intimidating size as well. I disagree. I believe they would be well received by most. If they are proven to exist, they will be exploited by anyone that can make a buck off of them or further an agenda. Both of those things are already happening, to a degree, even though they haven't been proven. I think that except for curious observation, people would leave them alone for the most part. I think if farmers and land owners were to shoot them, it would mainly happen because they wanted to cover up the BF's presence, so that their property doesn't become designated a protected area. I don't think there will be angry mobs with pitchforks and torches either.
Guest Fanofsquatch Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 Like it has been said in the past, once proven they are not going to come out of the woods in mass. They are still going to be as elusive and impossible to get near as ever. As far as acceptance I predict a mixed bag some doubters, some still wanting a body, others calling hoax, then the UFO ailen group calling for the Roswell photos. I think outside the bigfoot community the hubub will fade and people will get on with there lives while we sit here screaming "I told you so!"
Guest Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 Don't forget, the Harrison Hot Springs Sasquatch Summit is this weekend! Erickson will be there. Those of us who live a gazillion miles away from BC will expect a full report next week from anyone that can go.
Xion Comrade Posted April 7, 2011 Posted April 7, 2011 I disagree. I believe they would be well received by most. If they are proven to exist, they will be exploited by anyone that can make a buck off of them or further an agenda. Both of those things are already happening, to a degree, even though they haven't been proven. I think that except for curious observation, people would leave them alone for the most part. I think if farmers and land owners were to shoot them, it would mainly happen because they wanted to cover up the BF's presence, so that their property doesn't become designated a protected area. I don't think there will be angry mobs with pitchforks and torches either. You know that is a excellent point too! Exploitation, people would make tons of money taking people near or even to see one, I still think that anti-shoot/violence laws are a must, to prevent people from harming them needlessly(I would say most noone would ever need to) And strong education must be given to the public about the behavior and overall attitudes of the creatures ASAP.
Guest Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 I wonder if Erickson might reveal anything big at the conference. I agree Efrum. Reports are a must. Does anyone know if he is scheduled to give a presentation?
Recommended Posts