Erickson Project

[Guest]

I was thinking the same thing, Ptangier. I think Erickson would need the DNA from the site to lend some credence that what is in the video is real, or the same thing. Even then, that might not do it until someone sees them in person outside of the project. Then they would need to compare that with the DNA results from Dr. Ketchum's study.

[Guest]

How about the little black tip on the nose that peeks out from all the "fur"?

Absolutely! My little Yorkies have that tiny black nose showing.

I realize that the poster is talking about the tip of the nose of a BF sticking out of the fur, and I would love to have any info available.

How big is the nose?

Is it totally black like dog's noses?

[Guest]

Master Barber- It would seem to be that if you have the DNA and it is all OK and you try to tie it to a clip that may or may not be chopped , it would seem to be difficult. In other words you may need a body to say- OK this is what they look like, see it, feel it, touch it. The DNA just might only say that its from an unknown primate with out corraborating how tall, how much it weight, or simular physical attributes that go along with it. Maybe some one can help me with that one. ptangier

Are there any decent realistic dummies made to show how BF look? I would think that some of the BF museums would have a dummy or manikin that could realistically display how BF really looks.

I wish that I was close enough to one to go to a BF museum.

[Guest Stubstad]

Sorry, folks, no more video footage details from me. I do believe that folks both from within and without the project have taken videos--and collected DNA samples at the same locations.

As far as the timing -- how would I know, since the footage (or some of it) will come out either concurrent with or after the scientific peer-reviewed DNA findings are released? No one really knows when that will occur. I think the key here is "scientific peer-reviewed", not just a Popular Science or Scientific American study with "in-house" peer review.

We must also be open to the distinct possibility that not only a single "type" of sasquai exists, but rather that several do, such as: Feral human; Hybrid; Progenitor species, etc. If so, this fact alone would help explain why these creatures did not reach a "species bottleneck" due to lack of genetic diversity. It will also help a lot if a variety of haplotypes exist, possibly even within these three distinct sub-groups of Homo sapiens sesqueqienses.

If the sasquai indeed exist, folks (and I believe they do), they have had two HUGE survival issues to overcome across many tens of thousand of years:

1) Genetic diversity -- any viable population without significant genetic differences will eventually die off -- a species-specific bottleneck.

2) Homo sapiens sapiens -- the holier-than-thou race of "superior beings" that generally shoot first and ask questions later -- even of one-another.

HOLD YOUR BREATH -- WE'RE TRYING TO GET THERE, FINALLY !!!

Richard Stubstad

[Guest believer]

If the documentary is reasonably priced, I will buy them as Christmas presents. Hint Hint:) or the day after Thanksgiving Hint Hint:)

I will also buy the book (you know it's coming) coffee table sized:) . I will buy the scientific journal, the newspaper,magazine , etc.

How about adopt-a-squatch road signs similar to the ones on the road side for clean- up:)

Gonna have to change the school textbooks:)

Your skeptical friends becoming believers:)

Any certifying agencies to become the local expert?

I'm ready

[Guest believer]

Thanks for the update Richard

Still hanging in there:)

[Guest Fanofsquatch]

I really do think Erickson has shelled out way more than he can recover money wise. I just hope that even if I have to buy (which I gladly will) a DVD or pay per view, that we get to see all the footage not just glimpses of what is considered the best.

[Guest]

Sorry, folks, no more video footage details from me. I do believe that folks both from within and without the project have taken videos--and collected DNA samples at the same locations.

As far as the timing -- how would I know, since the footage (or some of it) will come out either concurrent with or after the scientific peer-reviewed DNA findings are released? No one really knows when that will occur. I think the key here is "scientific peer-reviewed", not just a Popular Science or Scientific American study with "in-house" peer review.

We must also be open to the distinct possibility that not only a single "type" of sasquai exists, but rather that several do, such as: Feral human; Hybrid; Progenitor species, etc. If so, this fact alone would help explain why these creatures did not reach a "species bottleneck" due to lack of genetic diversity. It will also help a lot if a variety of haplotypes exist, possibly even within these three distinct sub-groups of Homo sapiens sesqueqienses.

If the sasquai indeed exist, folks (and I believe they do), they have had two HUGE survival issues to overcome across many tens of thousand of years:

1) Genetic diversity -- any viable population without significant genetic differences will eventually die off -- a species-specific bottleneck.

2) Homo sapiens sapiens -- the holier-than-thou race of "superior beings" that generally shoot first and ask questions later -- even of one-another.

HOLD YOUR BREATH -- WE'RE TRYING TO GET THERE, FINALLY !!!

Richard Stubstad

Thanks for the update Richard, I hope your health is better!!

Now refresh my memory, how are you involved with the Erickson Project again?

[Guest billgreen2010]

im realy looking forward to adrian erickson special announcement regarding this situation this week or updates etc to be very continued.... indeedy. p.s. yes im looking forward to seeing this new documentary dvd soon KEEP ON SQUATCHING

[Guest believer]

Thank goodness he put the money in.

It's not a good bake sale cause right now.

Maybe later when the kids and schools come on board:)

"Walk for Bigfoot"

[Guest Stubstad]

Thanks for the update Richard, I hope your health is better!!

Now refresh my memory, how are you involved with the Erickson Project again?

I'm just a friend of both Adrian and Dennis. Plus I have an NDA, since I was allowed to see a significant amount of video footage.

I also helped Adrian out with understanding his own DNA findings from Melba (which he has precious little of by the way), and his own personal DNA findings, which were obtained to eliminate the possibility of him contaminating his own samples.

If I were you all, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Dr. Ketchum to release anything soon. She may well do so, especially if it is based on some kind of "internal" peer review (not a true peer review, of course), but miracles can happen.

DON'T hold your breath.

Richard Stubstad

PS: I'll know a bit more about my health situation tomorrow -- based on numbers, once again, not symptoms.

[Guest]

Good luck with your physical tomorrow, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

I'm still confused, so you did some statistical analysis for Mr. Erickson just like you did for Melba? Or you were working with Melba when Erickson's samples were included in the ten that you looked at?

[southernyahoo]

Richard you sound more optimistic than just weeks ago, hope things have changed from your end of this.

[Guest nona]

This is NOT about the money. How could he ever recover 2.5 - 3.0 million $, even from the richest philanthropist in the world for this? Assuming as well that we can categorize sasquatch within the genus Homo, which may or may not interest a philanthropist anyway.

Well, if BFRO can charge people $400 to go out into any part of the woods with them how much more would people be willing to pay to camp out in a site where supposed "DNA evidence" was found?

Anyway, what did he spend 2.5-3.0 million on? Did he put that money towards building Dr. Ketchum a new DNA diagnostics lab from the ground up. I thought she already had a lab before this all started. If you have high school students doing DNA projects that are worthy of being published in journals how much do you think one would really need to spend?

[Guest nona]

This is what I have always thought as well as a squatch could get hit by a truck at any moment and blow all of their projects out of the water. "Bigfoot is Real!" with the body all over CNN and Fox News as well as all the networks; then Erickson can chime in and say "Oh yeah look at this DNA I've been sitting on for 5 years and here's video of a live one peaking around a tree from 100 yards and oh yeah here is the first thermal of as bigfoot from 4 years ago that nobody has ever seen."

Would the value of the projects in question be decreased if a sasquatch was hit by a car prior to the release? I would say yes although they would need to get them out fast after acceptance of existance to recover at least 80% of what the value would have been.

JMHO

Well, if you know that is an "impossibility" the next best thing would be to state you have DNA "proving" the existence of the creature just waiting around the corner.