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Strength And Intelligence Of A Squatch?


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has anyone ever tried chasing one down, without weapons and actually going toe to toe with one? i'm assuming this is alot easier said than done...lol

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Well if you try it you better hope the bigfoot doesn't yank you up while laying in wait for you as you dash through the woods in hot pursuit.

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lol...i don't know how I would react if I seen one...being a former Marine, i would like to think I have little fear of anyting other than God, but from what others have written, I could see myself possibly pooping my pants. 9 feet tall, with 4-5 feet of chest and over 1000lbs....i bet shaquille o'neal would have trouble dealing with that...lol

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has anyone ever tried chasing one down, without weapons and actually going toe to toe with one? i'm assuming this is alot easier said than done...lol

I have read stories in Australia of people having to physically fight with the smaller ones. Here there are many reports of the very tall yowies, the man sized yowie and the really short pygmie hairy men often not said to be more than four foot.

This paragraph from http://www.bigfooten...ticles/opit.htm shows such an encounter...

"Nathan's father and uncle regularly slept in a well-built bush hut with 3 rooms situated in the forest in the Kirrama Range whilst working as timber men. One night a little hairy man entered the hut and attacked his uncle as he lay on his bed. Nathan's father rushed in when he heard cries for help and together they wrestled with and overpowered the hominid. Together they were able to hold the creature so that it couldn’t move and they described it as shorter than themselves, covered in dark hair and it was very strong and had a powerful grip. It then suddenly broke free, jumped straight out of the window, and fled into the night."

So perhaps this helps you with an idea of strength for a quite small hairyhominid.

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I take the minority view. I have never heard an account of a BF doing any feats of strength before witnesses.

What about airing of grievances? That comes first.

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I vaguely remember a report of a few teenagers in a car, saw a young bf, one jumped out and tackled it. It ended up getting away of course. Anyone remember something like that?

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^^^

I agree with you Biggie

but my comparison was for an average human who works out and does not use performance enhancing drugs. Many of these guys on TV today have so much crap running through their veins that you never know what their true power is...i'm assuming the squatches out there do not use any performance enhancing drugs...lol

I understand but my point remains the same. They would have to be several times stronger than humans whether they are strong or very strong. I and several others got a great laugh from you quoting my post immediately above yours considering my signature about that very issue was in it, but please remember to not do that in the future with users immediately above you.

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HarryHenderson,

I don't recall ever hearin' someone go toe to toe with one, but then again, I don't think they'd be round ta tell the tail. ha ! ha ! May explain some of those who go missin' in the woods howevere, don't think squatch wrestlin' would get past round one !

Pat...

ps: Then fear nothin'...

BuzzardEater,

I seem to recall a woman crawlin' under a fence only to be picked up an gently tossed back over the fence. Of course a strong person can pick people up an throw them to some dagree, but gently tossin someone over a fence...just strikes me as bein' rather powerful.

Pat...

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An interesting topic; strength and intelligence, as they do seem to be related. It seems that our ability to use the muscles we have under normal conditions is moderated by our brain. We know this because when our brain is over-ridden by either chemical shock (in the case of adrenalin, for instance) or by electrical shock (as in the case of someone receiving an electrical shock and at that instant being able to launch themselves airborne across a room with seemingly superhuman power) we are able to perform feats of strength similar to the kind we associate with the other animals. It's speculated that a significant portion of our brains are composed of something not found in other animals; white matter. White matter is like the neurological tissue called gray matter but in humans this white matter seems to be involved with fine motion control and seems to restrain the amount of physical force we can apply to our muscles with any deliberation. In the human brain, a significant portion of its volume is white matter with gray matter being largely on the outer regions of the brain. Without white matter our brains tend to resemble the apes in volume and structure. Without white matter humans don't have the kind of muscle control that makes us so unique in the animal kingdom, and without the ability to control the fine motions associated with tools and speech what would intelligence alone do for us? cheers.

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I didnt mention mystical power, In essence I said we have abilities we dont use though likely BF does utilise its abilities without constraint, and we cannot compare strength and intelligence when we hardly know the extent of our abililities or respect the extent of anothers abilities. In some cases of firewalking in societies the danger is lessoned in methods you have shown in your link but there are many cases of people doing things way beyond the accepted capacity (accepted by those who believe in great limitation) of a human. Here are some links for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArX8iNnY4Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvIB8fFURd0

Here is a write up on one of a few indian ascetics who claim not to have eaten for years…

“… Prahlad Jani, a seventy-six year old Indian ascetic who lives in a cave near the Ambaji temple in the state of Gujarat. Mr. Jani claims that he has not had food or fluids to drink for the last sixty-five years. ..

In November 2003, after over a year of coaxing, Prahlad Jani was finally persuaded to participate in a scientific research study. A medical research team of twenty-one specialists, headed by Dr. Sudhir V. Shah, had Prahlad Jani under twenty-four hours of observation for ten days at the Sterling Hospital in Ahmedabad. The team's research expertise included cardiology, neurology, urology, gastroenterology, ophthalmology, renal function, pulmonary function, ENT analysis, psychiatry, general medicine, and other specialities. A series of investigations were done on Mr. Jani in each of these areas according to a pre-determined protocol, and additional tests were carried out as per suggestions of the team. At the conclusion of their intensive investigations the team's doctors were left with an unexplained mystery, unable to disprove Prahlad Jani claims.

Prahlad Jani was initially kept in ICU for the first twenty-four hours. For the next nine days he was kept in a specially prepared room with a sealed-off toilet and a glass door. The room was also equipped with video surveillance to continuously monitor Prahlad Jani. Additionally, staff persons were assigned to stay in the same room with Prahlad Jani round-the-clock to make sure that he did not eat, drink, or pass urine or stool.

To assure researchers of no possible intake of water, Prahlad Jani agreed he would not bathe during the medical investigation. Prahlad Jani was permitted a small measured quantity of water to use as a mouthwash. He then spat the water into a beaker to verify that none had been drunk. An ultrasound, which was made of Mr. Jani's bladder twice daily, indicated that there was urine accumulation, which subsequently decreased on its own without passing.

At the end of the ten days of observation, the team of doctors verified that Prahlad Jani had not taken food or drank fluids. (The average person cannot survive without water for more than four days.) The team concluded that Mr. Jani's health had not deteriorated during this study. Also, according to the hospital's deputy superintendent, Dr. Dinesh Desai, "A series of tests conducted on him show his body mechanism is that of a normal person." Prahlad Jani's survival without food or fluids remains one of those unexplained mysteries.

The following are excerpts from the research team's concluding report:

1. The protocol was strictly adhered to.

2. Mr. Jani had not passed or dribbled urine during these 10 days.

3. He has not taken anything by mouth or by any other routes not even water for 10 days.

4. All his parameters remained within the range determined by the committee.

5. He has shown evidence of formation of urine, which seems to be reabsorbed from his bladder wall. However, at present the committee does not have any scientific explanation for the same but the help of senior scientists and medical personnel of the country is being taken for the same.

We are surprised as to how he has survived despite above particularly without passing urine for 10 days and remaining generally physically fit. However, it should be made very clear that we have confirmed the claim over 10 days only and we as scientists and responsible doctors cannot say anything regarding validity of the claim of his sustaining without food, drinks, urination and excretion of stools over several years.

Dr. Sudhir V. Shah (Consultant Neurophysician, Sterling Hospital/Associate professor of neurology at K. M. School of PGMR, Ahmedabad) headed the research panel of doctors who performed this study. I am deeply grateful to Dr. Sudhir V. Shah for providing the Case Summary of this study along with the photos of Mr. Jani. To view the Case Summary of Mr. Jani in its entirety please go to: P. Jani Medical Report.

Another similar research study, also headed by Dr. Sudhir V. Shah at Sterling Hospital, was conducted on Hira Ratan Manek. Mr. Manek claimed not to have eaten since 1995. Mr. Manek was kept under scientific observation round-the-clock for 411 continuous days. During this time Mr. Manek subsisted only on boiled water. This study also left researchers baffled. Dr. Sudhir V. Shah kindly provided a copy of his article about this study which was published in Gujarat Medical Journal – March 2001. To view this report online please see: Mr. Manek Medical Report."

Quoted from www.amazingabilities.com/amaze5a.html and extracted 16/02/2012.

Do you know how easy it is to hire accompices? I have not read anything in the article mentioned or any of the articles I looked up on th einternet to confirm this happened as accounted. This study happened in 2001? Where is the follow up? This should have been tested by outsiders as well. Incidentally, I have gone for over a week without defecating before as part of a fast. I cheated on the fast though just like this guy probably did: I ate candy and even drank beer (he might not have done that part). I continued to work at my job the whole time. I have seen no evidence of the alleged conditions other than their statements. The doctors may well have had a stake in this performance. When this is verified by outside studies then it might be real but otherwise it's not legitimate science.

http://www.wikihow.com/Break-Boards-with-Your-Bare-Hands

This is how you break boards. It is mostly physical with a slight perceptual alteration. Most people don't give themselves the credit to be able to do this but even small children can do it. There is nothing special or powerful at all about this. Even martial artists use saws and axes for most of their wood-cutting needs. This is mostly for show.

As far as breaking bricks is concerned, I do this a lot at my job. I'm a house-sitter and do a lot of demo and construciton work. Breaking bricks is easy. Even a little girl can do it. Bricks are only strong together, not singly.

dogu4, humans can do a lot of "powerful" things but we usually don't believe it. When we are overstimulated, excited etc. we can surprise ourselves. We shouldn't really be surprised that animals can do these things either as animals are not likely brought up to lack faith in themselves like humans often are. All the same we will never be as strong as a chimpanzee or gorilla who simply have much tougher muscles than we do. This is physics of muscle at work not "white matter" in the brain.

Modern humans use pretty much all of their brain not just a percentage. That whole idea is a myth. Bigfoot likely uses all of its brain just like we do. Its strength likely comes from its muscles just like ours do. Once when I was a teenager, I jumped over sixteen other students in phys. ed. class. My coach said we could each of us do it. I was the only to try it though. During a "tug-o-war" my side was losing and people dropped out of the game. I was eventually the last one holding the rope and still the other team couldn't pull me across the line. People are capable yes, but there is nothing mysterious or surprising about it unless you are taught it's not possible.

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Antfoot, hard to know what you are arguing exactly. You agree with me we can do more than we generally believe and you know, as you quote me so hopefully read what I said, that I have emphasised I didnt say anything was mystical, its just a matter of realisation and use.

As to your cheating on a week long fast (you say this above ) that many humans do without cheating and then assuming probably an Indian guru is cheating - well this only shows me the varacity of your arguments, logic and yearning to learn is quite weak. You cant do it and you cheat so an Indian Guru who has practiced great mental discipline throughout his life is probalby cheating... thats pretty limiting assumptions based on limited effort. I have fasted a few times for a week at a time mostly when I was much younger and very gung ho at all I did - just water no cheating. This Indian man was tested for ten days without food or water (exept water to gargle and spit out).

As to your not noticing the Qi Gong master putting a spear to the soft tissue of his neck under scientific conditions at a great pressure without problem - well again it seems your yearing to learn and means of argument is weak. There are people who have claimed they saw auras and they were put down for this but now the bio magnetic energy throughout and surrounding humans is recognised by science and scans show the same colours etc that people seeing auras had spoken of. There are people in the African desert (the Kalihari Bushmen) who used to say they could hear the song of the cosmos, (Pythagoras also talked of the sound of the spheres in the cosmos) which sounded completely bonkers to scientists until astronomers discovered that each body (planets, stars etc) put out a sound and started developing instruments to scan and study the sounds.

What I have said is there is no use trying to compare intelligence and strength between beings when humans dont hardly know their own strenght and intelligence.

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Pat, the female was built like a tiny gymnast, except enormous, easily in excess of human dimensions. The male looked like an adolescent and about seven feet and I am guessing less than three hundred pounds. I was two sixty five at that time, I am sure I could have sat him down. Tall skinny guys are easy to tackle.

The youngster was laughing his butt off and having a great time chasing cars. The female was not even smiling. She looked worried.

I actually went into shock, so I am being wishful in retrospect when I suggest I should have jumped out. I could have. I had time. I didn't.

I didn't want to be party to the Sasquatch people inventing "canned" food.

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BuzzardEater,

At 265 lbs., you would be heavier than a chimp, but I wouldn't suggest pickin' a fight with a chimp either, even if it was lighter.

:drinks:

Pat...

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One thing I always think about is a squatch cathing a deer with it's bare hands...anyone who has seen a large buck run and jump would understand how strong a squatch must be to actually pull that off....do the larger squatches share meals with the smaller ones? has this been discussed?

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