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1 hour ago, Huntster said:

 

If the Sierra Sounds, Ostman story, Muchalat Harry story, and others strongly indicate a spoken sasquatch language, these creatures might very well be taxonomically categorized as of the homo genus, and thus they would be "human", just like Neanderthals, Denisovans, Florensiensis, etc. They would have "human rights". And yes, they wouldn't have any lawyers among their midst, but there are never shortages of homo sapiens lawyers (especially of the environmental type) who would love to represent them.

If any part of our government admitted to the existence of Sasquatch, they would ABSOLUTELY be considered an indigenous people and would likely also be considered some sort of "uncontacted tribe." Legions of groups would step forward to lobby on their behalf and instead of just a small island being off-limits to visitation (as in the case of some uncontacted tribes), gigantic tracts of lands could theoretically be closed permanently.  The closure of public and private lands would be like nothing we've ever seen before.  It could be an economic Armageddon.

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22 minutes ago, Buckaloo said:

.........The closure of public and private lands would be like nothing we've ever seen before.  It could be an economic Armageddon.

 

It's hard to say how crazy it could get, but I'm sure it would be socially, culturally, economically, and even religiously traumatic. This is the primary reason why I believe that government just doesn't want to go there, especially since it's so easy to maintain the current mythology storyline. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Will said:

Can’t give rights to animals….how would they even accept them? They won’t even defend their new land. 

Thanks but I would have rather had that on video. I didn’t even have time to hit the brakes. Lol


If Sasquatch is some form of ancient human? Dunno. There is no precedent. And maybe the powers that be don’t want to find out.🤷‍♂️

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10 hours ago, norseman said:


If Sasquatch is some form of ancient human? Dunno. There is no precedent. And maybe the powers that be don’t want to find out.🤷‍♂️

 

I think that is a real reasonable perspective.   There IS no perspective and there IS no telling what our court system might do.   I think it is a stone better left unturned .. at least until we know what is under it.   Maybe "they" do know and anticipation of the legal situation is why they won't talk about it.    Dunno.    All, in all directions, is all speculation unless you happen to be someone who is in a loop we don't even know exists with certainty.    There's a lot of logic to suggest it / support it but logic without substance, no matter how attractive, isn't evidence.

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On 11/7/2026 at 8:26 PM, norseman said:


They would lock it up. Because they are.

 

I worked in the Bakken oilfield. Most of the field was in North Dakota. Where the motto was “drill, baby, drill”. But in Montana? We shut down for over a month for sage grouse mating season. The permits were not being written very fast either.

 

Complete sawmill towns were destroyed by the Spotted owl. Gone.

 

And as you said? The cattle industry is being eviserated by Wolves currently.

 

The “resource” they are trying to protect is evidently anything not for the betterment of mankind.

 

I am not an advocate for turning the whole thing into a asphalt parking lot. But most are not advocating a Amish lifestyle either. Most just want to have their cake and eat it too. They wanna live in a condo, with hot water and electricity, and a fully stocked box stores 5 minutes away while enjoying a pristine wilderness off their porch. 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

So back to Sasquatch? Obviously something else is going on because if it was a simple endangered animal? They would leverage its plight to the hilt.

 

But they don't. So either the creature doesn’t exist? Or there is a fly in the soup.

 

 

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Norseman said, "I worked in the Bakken oilfield. Most of the field was in North Dakota. Where the motto was “drill, baby, drill”. But in Montana? We shut down for over a month for sage grouse mating season. The permits were not being written very fast either.

 

Complete sawmill towns were destroyed by the Spotted owl. Gone.

 

And as you said? The cattle industry is being eviserated by Wolves currently."

 

This is the reality of recognizing the existence of Sasquatch even if it's not recognized in the Homo genus. Sasquatch would probably not be included in the Homo genus since one of the most primitive Homo classified animals was the Homo habilis that used stone tools which Sasquatch avoids. Sasquatch is probably a Hominin which is bad enough when you consider what Norseman said about Sage Grouse, the Spotted Owl, and the Wolves. Look at what happened because of the Spotted Owl where vast acreages of forest in Oregon, Washington, and California were shut down from logging.

 

If bigfoot was proven to be a Hominid the ramifications could be dramatic where vast areas of public lands could be off limits for logging, hiking, and hunting. This could make the Spotted Owl battles look small when compared to the "Bigfoot Up Rising." Is this why government and universities won't touch Bigfoot with a ten foot pole? If Bigfoot is proven what is the best way for government to manage the species and to keep the public happy?  

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2 hours ago, MIB said:

 

I think that is a real reasonable perspective.   There IS no perspective and there IS no telling what our court system might do.   I think it is a stone better left unturned .. at least until we know what is under it.   Maybe "they" do know and anticipation of the legal situation is why they won't talk about it.    Dunno.    All, in all directions, is all speculation unless you happen to be someone who is in a loop we don't even know exists with certainty.    There's a lot of logic to suggest it / support it but logic without substance, no matter how attractive, isn't evidence.


When they look for black holes they cannot ever see the black hole through a telescope. Because light cannot escape the gravity of a black hole. Leaving nothing for the telescope to detect. Well then how do you know a black hole is there then? Sounds like they are chasing ghosts right?

 

Simply by observing its gravitational pull to everything around it. Suns and planets orbiting an unseen force. Like a leaf that should be floating down the river but instead is caught in a whirlpool in the middle.

 

Look at the obfuscation and the ridicule concerning this subject. Real scientists putting their neck on the line. While the rest of academia and government laughs. Is this how science should approach a simple question? Look at UAPs? Now we know they exist because of a pre Sputnik telescope plate study. And yet many scientists are screaming it’s dust on the plates. It’s ridiculous.

 

How academia reacts to the evidence tells you something unseen is there that exerts force over their baffling actions. Science goes on normally when they are studying Frogs and Fish….. or something long extinct. But they run around like their hair is on fire and attack you if anything “fringe” is suggested. 

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I’m sure many entities will try to lock up land so that no human beings are allowed on the bigfeets property. But human beings also have rights, rights that cannot be assigned to bigfeet, for obvious reasons. 
 

It certainly fits the political narrative of ending things like logging, mineral extraction and even hunting but the bigfeet are seen everywhere… how is government going to keep them on their assigned property that they don’t even know they control. 

 

What happens if they’re found in the mountains of WV? Ohio? I’m fascinated that all of you think government is going to come in and take everyone’s property. 
 

The reason the government hasn’t done anything is there’s something more to this phenomenon that we don’t know or haven’t considered…..or it’s all crap! The original grifters were born with this phenomena. 
 

There isn’t even a single definitive picture or anything else. If they were discovered they would be protected and allowed to frolic wherever they want. There’s literally no reason to set aside land because they can go anywhere and we can’t keep them contained. 

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15 hours ago, Huntster said:

 

If the Sierra Sounds, Ostman story, Muchalat Harry story, and others strongly indicate a spoken sasquatch language, these creatures might very well be taxonomically categorized as of the homo genus, and thus they would be "human", just like Neanderthals, Denisovans, Florensiensis, etc. They would have "human rights". And yes, they wouldn't have any lawyers among their midst, but there are never shortages of homo sapiens lawyers (especially of the environmental type) who would love to represent them.

How would they be represented?
How are you going to get an animal to reveal the language it uses? 
How would they be communicated to with the most basic questions? 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, georgerm said:

.........Sasquatch is probably a Hominin.........

..........If bigfoot was proven to be a Hominid...........

 

It's critical to use terms correctly, especially when lawyers are (or might get) involved. Hominids refer to all modern and extinct great apes (including humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans), while hominins refer specifically to modern humans, extinct human species, and our direct bipedal ancestors. We can expect that hominins would be argued to have legal human rights. Hominids, not so much.

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14 hours ago, Buckaloo said:

If any part of our government admitted to the existence of Sasquatch, they would ABSOLUTELY be considered an indigenous people and would likely also be considered some sort of "uncontacted tribe." Legions of groups would step forward to lobby on their behalf and instead of just a small island being off-limits to visitation (as in the case of some uncontacted tribes), gigantic tracts of lands could theoretically be closed permanently.  The closure of public and private lands would be like nothing we've ever seen before.  It could be an economic Armageddon.

Except it wouldn’t be done for them, it would be done for politics. 
 

Why would any land be set aside when they’ve been seen in all 50 states, seem to move great distances and cannot be contained. 

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2 minutes ago, Will said:

How would they be represented?........

 

Legally, by lawyers.

 

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.........How are you going to get an animal to reveal the language it uses?.........

 

By linguists.

 

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........How would they be communicated to with the most basic questions?

 

However the lawyers determine.

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Just now, Will said:

.........Why would any land be set aside when they’ve been seen in all 50 states, seem to move great distances and cannot be contained.......... 

 

I'm not sure that much additional land would be "set aside" per se. All land is "classified" to one extent or another. Among the loosest classified lands are managed by the BLM. I would expect increased access restrictions or requirements in federal lands where sasquatches would be determined to use extensively, and most of these lands already have extensive access restrictions. 

 

But commercial access? Yeah, resource development would most definitely become more expensive and restricted.

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1 minute ago, Huntster said:

 

Legally, by lawyers.

By linguists.

However the lawyers determine.

Lawyers of special interest groups, just like environments and animals are? 
 

You’ll have to sit down with a Bigfoot to get that done. 
 

The lawyers won’t be able to determine it because no one can commute with them.

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1 minute ago, Huntster said:

 

I'm not sure that much additional land would be "set aside" per se. All land is "classified" to one extent or another. Among the loosest classified lands are managed by the BLM. I would expect increased access restrictions or requirements in federal lands where sasquatches would be determined to use extensively, and most of these lands already have extensive access restrictions. 
 

Agreed

 

1 minute ago, Huntster said:

 

But commercial access? Yeah, resource development would most definitely become more expensive and restricted.

I disagree because they can’t be contained and are found everywhere. If all information is fair game, then industry would be able to prove that modern human living and activities don’t seem to affect them. If they can be found in the dumpster just like the raccoon there isn’t much protection needed. 

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2 minutes ago, Will said:

Lawyers of special interest groups, just like environments and animals are?.........

 

Yup.

 

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..........You’ll have to sit down with a Bigfoot to get that done...........

 

Once discovery cannot be denied, you can expect a pair or more of sasquatrches to be held captive and "studied" in every way imaginable.

 

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.........The lawyers won’t be able to determine it because no one can commute with them.

 

Lawyers have the magical ability to read minds and souls, and communicate your every thought, word, and intent for you.

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