Guest MidnightWalkerSE Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Let talk about some of the other Risk and Dangers of the trade besides attacks. I just posted some tips in the thread about confrontations. Anyways there's a lot of enthusiast, novices and experienced investigators/researchers out there that could get hurt in the bush at anytime. So maybe we could share some tricks of the trade or advice and what to do in other situations besides running into an angry Sasquatch or bear. I'll list some of the other dangers and risks to get the ball rolling. Please add in your own or tips & other risks ( snake bites etc) and counter measures if things turn ugly. I am no expert but I am fully aware of some of the other risks involved in the back country where i go. As stupid as this may sound a lot of researchers/hikers even with a compass or GPS get lost for one reason or another. Then you got the others who don't have the basic field equipment or training. The weather can play havoc with your expedition it can turn a great trip into a nightmare fast. Hyperthermia, dehydration is no joke if it's serious enough and there's no help near. The terrain it self can be very dangerous if the area is unknown or the conditions are wrong for you to be out there hiking about especially at night. Leg related injuries are very common and can be life threatening if you become disabled. A few years back I tore all my Achilles tendons in half on my left leg and had to use my knife to crawl back up a wet slope hidden by the morning mist and back into camp. How stupid did I feel when I drove myself to the hospital with my left foot flapping like a fish when I hopped into emerg. Surgery, a big cast and learning how to walk again adjusted my fearless attitude. Anyways crap happens even to the best of us so maybe we could talk about some of the other risk and what to do. Who knows it may save someones butt sometime maybe even yours? Hell, I got lost one night chasing my dog down into an area of the forest that I wasn't familar with. Temperature dropped to the low 20's and overcast that night with pitch darkness in the forest. It took me 3 hours to find me way out of there under some serious stress. I had the coyotes and the bigs howling that night while I tried to get out of those woods. I didn't bring my compass or gps because it was suppose to be a short and known walk. As for weapons, I generally don't but kick myself often as I run into some wacknuts in those woods. Hand to hand, I am confident but if they're sporting a weapon I am screwed. I'll probably bring a weapon more often. As to getting hurt in the woods, that's a tough one. I give people general vicinities but go it alone and tend to wander. That's one that I'll have to figure out maybe with a satellite phone one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tracker Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 (edited) Hell, I got lost one night chasing my dog down into an area of the forest that I wasn't familar with. Temperature dropped to the low 20's and overcast that night with pitch darkness in the forest. It took me 3 hours to find me way out of there under some serious stress. I had the coyotes and the bigs howling that night while I tried to get out of those woods. I didn't bring my compass or gps because it was suppose to be a short and known walk. As for weapons, I generally don't but kick myself often as I run into some wacknuts in those woods. Hand to hand, I am confident but if they're sporting a weapon I am screwed. I'll probably bring a weapon more often. As to getting hurt in the woods, that's a tough one. I give people general vicinities but go it alone and tend to wander. That's one that I'll have to figure out maybe with a satellite phone one day. Yea getting lost after crashing through the woods happens more than most would admit. If your trying to see a biggie chasing after one only makes them flee faster. Or it can make them run at you? Better to play it casual and let them come snooping around. "Hey leave my tent alone you big dorks" Most people run in the opposite direction when alone even when armed. Once you see how big they really are there's no messing with them. So don't believe those Jack Links commercials. JMO. tracker, Edited May 30, 2011 by tracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted June 1, 2011 Admin Share Posted June 1, 2011 Hey I don't disagree that it's not worth the $500. Just saying if they massed produced it then it could more like cell phones. Even kids in grad school carry those now. I do like what the $ 500 model offers, It sure would come in handy with my methods. I just don't like the idea of breaking or losing a $500 dollar gadget. I guess we don;'t have to worry about it being stolen, As soon as they turn it on the police can find your spot. Then buy the 100 dollar unit in case you do a super man off of a small cliff, broke your leg and need help. And just pack a map and compass for nav. As far as the gun issue it seems to me most bring weapons into field to do RESEARCH these days. Personally I've only ever carried a hunting knife and a good sm flashlight. That's because you live in the Socialist worker's paradise of the great white north.........if you were an American we all know you'd have AT LEAST THREE in bed with you! And I hiked bear & cougar country all the time. Which places you at a greater risk of becoming scat I might add. But if anyone did take a shot at me or try to run me off with gun intimidation. Then they better have very good bush skills and a will. In the Socialist workers paradise, your all on an even playing field (except for the criminals)...........it would be a duel to the death with hunting knives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tracker Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 (edited) Then buy the 100 dollar unit in case you do a super man off of a small cliff, broke your leg and need help. And just pack a map and compass for nav. yea i've gotten hurt before out on my own. That's because you live in the Socialist worker's paradise of the great white north.........if you were an American we all know you'd have AT LEAST THREE in bed with you! maybe more? Which places you at a greater risk of becoming scat I might add. yea a grizz almost picked me off once in Alberta In the Socialist workers paradise, your all on an even playing field (except for the criminals)...........it would be a duel to the death with hunting knives! Naa, i don't really care about the laws if i run into criminals or wacko's, especially in the outback. Edited June 1, 2011 by tracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incorrigible1 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 (edited) In the Socialist workers paradise, your all on an even playing field (except for the criminals)...........it would be a duel to the death with hunting knives! How to tell the winner of a knife fight? It's he that dies last. God made Man, Sam Colt made them equal. Edited June 1, 2011 by Incorrigible1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted June 1, 2011 Admin Share Posted June 1, 2011 Naa, i don't really care about the laws if i run into criminals or wacko's, especially in the outback. So what your saying.........is that you DO pack a gun in the back country!? And you just don't want to put it into writing...... I understand completely........kudos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted June 1, 2011 Admin Share Posted June 1, 2011 How to tell the winner of a knife fight? It's he that dies last. God made Man, Sam Colt made them equal. Correct.......I only add that he gave them the "opportunity" to all be equal. Some choose to not practice to hit paper unfortunately. Leaving their equal status on dubious footing........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tracker Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Correct.......I only add that he gave them the "opportunity" to all be equal. Some choose to not practice to hit paper unfortunately. Leaving their equal status on dubious footing........ yea never bring a knife to a gun fight. Hey the funny thing about that scene is indie was suppose to fight him. that sword guy practiced for weeks and then Ford just decided to shoot him because he was tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tracker Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Now that camping season is in full swing. Have an eye out for bears, cougars and snakes. They like they warm weather and campgrounds too. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SurfingCowboy Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Hey good ones, Ok lets raise the bar What about treating leg or back injuries and Hypertherm? Or how about if you got lost or need to locate a lost person? Gsp not working no compass & it's getting dark and cold out? Hey fenris, maybe we can get a two for one deal on decending lessons? Actually I find decending harder then climbing especially if it's wet. Well mountains anyways with all the loose shale above the tree line. That shale can cut you up good and leave your shins bleeding for all the other preds to smell. It's like ringing the dinner bell. Trackers tip of the day. Always treat wounds and injuries asap. Many reasons blaa blaa blaa, don't tough it out just do it. I would like to start by saying someone of my methods might seem unorthodox or a little different but my goal is survival and I will be the first to admit that no matter how prepared you think you are; you will never think of every situation so being prepared and knowledgeable and thinking quick on you feet is of the utmost importance. I don't advise going by yourself but it happens that you don't know someone or they don't have the time. For back injuries all I can say is try to use your shirt as a back brace by tying it around your waist if its a lower back injury. I personally carry presribtion meds in case of severe injury. I know that alot of folks think that carrying a firearm is a bad idea, I agree with in reason. However I have found that taurus made a pistol they I would advise people to look into because it was an ingenious idea. Its called The Tarus Judge, its a revolver that actually can be loaded every other chamber with a Long Colt .45 then a .410 shot gun shell, its really a perfect gun for all parts of this country. A snake bite kit is a great idea because even if the snake is not venomous you could still get a terrible infection. If your by yourself it would be tough to get back to civilization, and they can do alot of damage fast depending of the snake and the type of venom. When I teach people survival this is just the tip of the ice berg. This is a little skipping ahead but there are so many things to talk about and share. I took a picture of a snake in a tree it was about six and a half feet long and roughly 7 feet in the air and climbing higher. So people one more thing to think about look up and down. I will hit up some of your other comments and pass on what I can hopefully someone can use it or at least change it to fit your own situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tracker Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I would like to start by saying someone of my methods might seem unorthodox or a little different but my goal is survival and I will be the first to admit that no matter how prepared you think you are; you will never think of every situation so being prepared and knowledgeable and thinking quick on you feet is of the utmost importance. I don't advise going by yourself but it happens that you don't know someone or they don't have the time. For back injuries all I can say is try to use your shirt as a back brace by tying it around your waist if its a lower back injury. I personally carry presribtion meds in case of severe injury. I know that alot of folks think that carrying a firearm is a bad idea, I agree with in reason. However I have found that taurus made a pistol they I would advise people to look into because it was an ingenious idea. Its called The Tarus Judge, its a revolver that actually can be loaded every other chamber with a Long Colt .45 then a .410 shot gun shell, its really a perfect gun for all parts of this country. A snake bite kit is a great idea because even if the snake is not venomous you could still get a terrible infection. If your by yourself it would be tough to get back to civilization, and they can do alot of damage fast depending of the snake and the type of venom. When I teach people survival this is just the tip of the ice berg. This is a little skipping ahead but there are so many things to talk about and share. I took a picture of a snake in a tree it was about six and a half feet long and roughly 7 feet in the air and climbing higher. So people one more thing to think about look up and down. I will hit up some of your other comments and pass on what I can hopefully someone can use it or at least change it to fit your own situations. Hey that's a good idea, I am not a medic. I think Steve dropped by a ways back and added to the pot. All good tips are welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SurfingCowboy Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I adivse carrying a glow stick with your gear so that is you get lost break it and put it on so that if and when someone comes looking for you its easier to find you. I however carry extra lighters so as to create a fire. Always carry at least on emergency blanket their small, reflective, and can fight off hyperthermia. I also advise on water purifacation tablets, the type that kill bacteria and viruses, there not expenses and if something happened and you couldn't boil the water they could save your life. I also carry little firestarting sticks because if it gets late and you find that it rains during your trip or the night before and the forest is wet at least you can attempt to get a fire going again their cheap and light to carry. A swiss army knife or any multi purpose tool is also a neccescity, I would advise learning to sew, carry a little bit of fishing line and a small hook because the reality of it is if you get a decent size cut at least you can stitch it closed and not bleed to death, thats also where some kind of pain med comes in handy becuase it will hurt and I don't advise drinking or taking alcohol into the woods. Good boots, long pants and a hat (preferably orange) are a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tracker Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Don't let their cute looks fool ya, they are dangerous ambush attackers found in most areas. Here kitty kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tracker Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Here's another danger/risk I should mention "Poachers" Anyone ever cross paths with them in the field? What would you do? I back tracked some recently to their tree blind and near by base. Taking a young moose out of season and from a protected area. Then dragging the carcass back onto private property. Their on Santa's and Tracker's naughty list . I haven't done anything yet. The 411 might be useful. Hmm? T, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted November 5, 2011 Admin Share Posted November 5, 2011 Here's another danger/risk I should mention "Poachers" Anyone ever cross paths with them in the field? What would you do? I back tracked some recently to their tree blind and near by base. Taking a young moose out of season and from a protected area. Then dragging the carcass back onto private property. Their on Santa's and Tracker's naughty list . I haven't done anything yet. The 411 might be useful. Hmm? T, It depends. If its a poor family trying to put meat on the table? Leave em be. If its a bunch of yahoos killin to be killin? Burn em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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