Guest Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Just to answer your query. It doesn't make sense to me that after all this time of searching, no one has produced a living or dead body. I have seen bears, deer, moose, wolves, coyotes, elk, mountain sheep and smaller mammals hit by a vehicle or dead at the side of the road, but no sasquatch. Just doesn't add up to me **** right it don't. I understand the biology behind it. But we are talking about older adults that might have vision or hearing impairment, injuries, or other ailments associated with age. In addition, it is hard to believe that somebody didnt run a rig over a young one or a teenager taking chances. Perhaps if they are on the increase, this eventually happens. If they are on the decrease then there is a fair chance it does not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Attached: (1) Paper from Smith and Jungers. (2) The 7'1", 325 lb Shaquille O'Neal meeting the 5' 11" (and 3/4) George W. Bush. Now picture Shaq next to a wiry guy standing 5' 3". Shaq will look truly monstrous, but he'll still "only" be 325 lbs. Smith and Jungers 1997.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 My point exactly: 1957 lbs for a 7 ft anthropoid is beyond ridiculous.. and ... DONT MAKE SENSE lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 How many people are killed by moving cars each year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisco Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Here's something else that does not make sense and never has.... Bigfoot is able to sense game cameras to such a degree that they are almost useless as a way of gathering photographic evidence. They either can smell them, hear them, smell the scent of man near them or some variation of all these. If Bigfoot is so hypersensitive to game cameras; why does he appear in front of campers, automobiles, houses, boats, buildings, helicopters, trains, hunters and just about everything else? It does not make any sense that any animal would be so deathly afraid or evasive of a game camera but will occasionally make the mistake of being near any one of the things I just mentioned. Do cameras terrify Bigfoot to such a degree that anything else is inconsequential? Many times I have spoken to friends and family about Bigfoot and I have put forth very interesting stories and anecdotes. More often than not, these friends and family will start to believe that there is a possibility that Bigfoot exists. That is, until somebody asks about the game camera.... How do you answer that question? "Well they (Bigfoot) smell them and, as a result, can triangulate them and avoid them, any time and any place. It's almost like magic...and they also hear the noise and very quickly get out of the way!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xion Comrade Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Here's something else that does not make sense and never has.... Bigfoot is able to sense game cameras to such a degree that they are almost useless as a way of gathering photographic evidence. They either can smell them, hear them, smell the scent of man near them or some variation of all these. If Bigfoot is so hypersensitive to game cameras; why does he appear in front of campers, automobiles, houses, boats, buildings, helicopters, trains, hunters and just about everything else? It does not make any sense that any animal would be so deathly afraid or evasive of a game camera but will occasionally make the mistake of being near any one of the things I just mentioned. Do cameras terrify Bigfoot to such a degree that anything else is inconsequential? Many times I have spoken to friends and family about Bigfoot and I have put forth very interesting stories and anecdotes. More often than not, these friends and family will start to believe that there is a possibility that Bigfoot exists. That is, until somebody asks about the game camera.... How do you answer that question? "Well they (Bigfoot) smell them and, as a result, can triangulate them and avoid them, any time and any place. It's almost like magic...and they also hear the noise and very quickly get out of the way!" Apparently bigfoot isn't the only animal that will quickly notice them and stray away. I have heard some members with experience on this board stating that most animals can detect even a small difference in their area and will put effort into avoiding it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD0NmlBqjNw&feature=related David Paulides noted that most if not all Game cameras emit a high frequency hum, just above what most humans can hear but within what some primates CAN. He speculated, with evidence, that the Sasquatch can also hear this horrifyingly painful sounds, thus not only alerting them to its presence, but motivating them to stay away. Something for field researchers to look into, we need to try and guesstimate what their range of hearing is, as Game cameras are likely not the only common piece of equipment we use that does this. Take note of my example of the high pitched hum Application for the Iphone, great for putting young kids, especially YOUNG kids in agonizing pain while leaving you completely oblivious to what is happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 In time, I suspect that there will be increased images as more people realize the need to conceal the game cams. Some will succeed better than others.. and eventually some of the bugs will be worked out as more people compare makes and results and details. But we still seem a long way off from the image quality desired. Wait, that makes sense... whoops. Another thing that does NOT make sense.. how some look like and are described as the John Cartwright specimen (big silverback male) and others look so humanlooking (or so I am told). THAT DONT MAKE SENSE.... unless there is an obvious logical answer for that one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisco Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Apparently bigfoot isn't the only animal that will quickly notice them and stray away. I have heard some members with experience on this board stating that most animals can detect even a small difference in their area and will put effort into avoiding it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD0NmlBqjNw&feature=related David Paulides noted that most if not all Game cameras emit a high frequency hum, just above what most humans can hear but within what some primates CAN. He speculated, with evidence, that the Sasquatch can also hear this horrifyingly painful sounds, thus not only alerting them to its presence, but motivating them to stay away. Something for field researchers to look into, we need to try and guesstimate what their range of hearing is, as Game cameras are likely not the only common piece of equipment we use that does this. Take note of my example of the high pitched hum Application for the Iphone, great for putting young kids, especially YOUNG kids in agonizing pain while leaving you completely oblivious to what is happening XC, I have no doubt that some animals may hear the camera but not all camera's emit sound continuously. Some of them only make sounds when they are tripped. The Olympic Project only uses cameras that do not disturb wildlife and they have photos of every possible animal in their area and that includes a possible Bigfoot. That being said, ALL game cameras do not emit a continuous high pitch sound. Otherwise, they would never capture images of any animals and I suspect,if that were the case, nobody would purchase them. So, we're right back where we started from and I still don't have a solid answer for that pesky game camera question. I'm afraid that claiming Biggy has the most sensitive hearing in the animal kingdom; will not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Cisco, regarding your post, mine tk: XC, I have no doubt that some animals may hear the camera but not all camera's emit sound continuously. Some of them only make sounds when they are tripped. tk: Guys, I am not suggesting that its all about sound. There may well be olfactory and visual going on. But it sure seems something is a limiting factor precluding THEM from the aggregate series we seem to get nationally including the main predators alng with wildlife of all kinds.. I remember an alligator in one series. The Olympic Project only uses cameras that do not disturb wildlife and they have photos of every possible animal in their area and that includes a possible Bigfoot. tk: Do we understand what kind of cams those are and are others using them ? If not why? Cost limitations? Or ? That being said, ALL game cameras do not emit a continuous high pitch sound. Otherwise, they would never capture images of any animals and I suspect,if that were the case, nobody would purchase them. tk: Couldnt agree more. So, we're right back where we started from and I still don't have a solid answer for that pesky game camera question. I'm afraid that claiming Biggy has the most sensitive hearing in the animal kingdom; will not work. tk: Actually we just jumped out in front and might be heading for a touchdown. How many people can say they have possible Bigfoot images? Not everyone. So I dont think we are where we started from. Do you know what kind of cams the Olympic Project is utilizing? That might be one of the answers. Regarding Biggy having the most sensitive hearing, no response here.. that would take a lot more knowledge than we have now. But you may have laid out another stepping stone for someone... good one. I think there are a lot of factors to consider but people who have potential images of question .. seems good to know what was utilized for that capture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xion Comrade Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 XC, I have no doubt that some animals may hear the camera but not all camera's emit sound continuously. Some of them only make sounds when they are tripped. The Olympic Project only uses cameras that do not disturb wildlife and they have photos of every possible animal in their area and that includes a possible Bigfoot. That being said, ALL game cameras do not emit a continuous high pitch sound. Otherwise, they would never capture images of any animals and I suspect,if that were the case, nobody would purchase them. So, we're right back where we started from and I still don't have a solid answer for that pesky game camera question. I'm afraid that claiming Biggy has the most sensitive hearing in the animal kingdom; will not work. I do not know if other animals recognize the sound, if they hear it at all. I would doubt they would be intelligent enough to stay away either, especially since the area within the lenses range is usually baited. That is true, but most people don't know about the sounds as they cannot detect it, unless it was a really really ****** camera. All electronics emit them, but some to me that just seem to be of a lower quality make/high power create sounds that even we can hear. Almost like nails on chalkboard muffled X.X . Something to think about when buying that nice new game camera, I would doubt manufacturers pay attention either. Put a human brain in that big critter and try to figure out what he is thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Yes, but even if one is to accept this mantra that bigfoots have an uncanny ability to detect and for some reason avoid game cameras, that doesn't address Cisco's comment about bigfoots not avoiding things that really could pose a threat to them, such as cars, human dwellings, etc. This isn't something that doesn't make sense about bigfoot, it's something that doesn't make sense about bigfooters. How can we at one moment claim bigfoot's amazing ability to detect and avoid every camera but accept as credible accounts of bigfoots hanging around humans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisco Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Yes, but even if one is to accept this mantra that bigfoots have an uncanny ability to detect and for some reason avoid game cameras, that doesn't address Cisco's comment about bigfoots not avoiding things that really could pose a threat to them, such as cars, human dwellings, etc. This isn't something that doesn't make sense about bigfoot, it's something that doesn't make sense about bigfooters. How can we at one moment claim bigfoot's amazing ability to detect and avoid every camera but accept as credible accounts of bigfoots hanging around humans? This is exactly the point I have been trying to make. Keep in mind that I consider myself a "Wannabeliever." I have never seen a Bigfoot but would like for them to exist. However, it's hard to be a believer when there are "dual or contrasting" theories that don't compliment each other. So; how can Bigfoot avoid game cams like the plague but not avoid semi-trucks and the many other noisy, smelly, man-made objects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisco Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Cisco, regarding your post, mine tk: XC, I have no doubt that some animals may hear the camera but not all camera's emit sound continuously. Some of them only make sounds when they are tripped. tk: Guys, I am not suggesting that its all about sound. There may well be olfactory and visual going on. But it sure seems something is a limiting factor precluding THEM from the aggregate series we seem to get nationally including the main predators alng with wildlife of all kinds.. I remember an alligator in one series. The Olympic Project only uses cameras that do not disturb wildlife and they have photos of every possible animal in their area and that includes a possible Bigfoot. tk: Do we understand what kind of cams those are and are others using them ? If not why? Cost limitations? Or ? That being said, ALL game cameras do not emit a continuous high pitch sound. Otherwise, they would never capture images of any animals and I suspect,if that were the case, nobody would purchase them. tk: Couldnt agree more. So, we're right back where we started from and I still don't have a solid answer for that pesky game camera question. I'm afraid that claiming Biggy has the most sensitive hearing in the animal kingdom; will not work. tk: Actually we just jumped out in front and might be heading for a touchdown. How many people can say they have possible Bigfoot images? Not everyone. So I dont think we are where we started from. Do you know what kind of cams the Olympic Project is utilizing? That might be one of the answers. Regarding Biggy having the most sensitive hearing, no response here.. that would take a lot more knowledge than we have now. But you may have laid out another stepping stone for someone... good one. I think there are a lot of factors to consider but people who have potential images of question .. seems good to know what was utilized for that capture. If I remember correctly, the BFRO uses cameras that do not put out any kind of light or sound that would alert any animals, including large predators. There's information about these cameras on their website and I do think they are rather expensive. However, I have seen even some of the cheaper cameras capture some pretty amazing photos. Keep in mind that they don't actually make any noise until they are "triggered." It's possible that animals may learn to avoid them but not every time. In order to learn their location, they would have to trigger them, see them or smell them. I don't care how smart any animal may be; as eventually, it would make a mistake. There are too many cameras being placed all over this country and no animal can avoid them, every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Agreed cisco but I dont think we are talking about any animal and in another thread there was an example of how much land had these cameras across the continent. So in looking at that, know the fraction of land out there that is loaded with cameras is absolutely tiny. But steam is being gained.. so I would think more images will follow. My beef is the quality of so called images out there. Good imagemakers cost. $$ seems to be the limiting factor here. Which is another thing that does make sense and is not the theme of the thread I proposed. What does not make sense is the lack of quality to the rare images that do come up. That again may reflect on the $$ aspect. Its 2011 do we have better images than the 67 Patty film? THAT doesnt make sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 How come with all the faked sasquatches with people in suits (presuming thats what skeptics think all the decent sasQ reports are) that NOBODY is getting shot ???? THAT does not make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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