See-Te-Cah NC Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 If and when Dr. K's paper is published, the writer WILL, if God allows me the time, have a cold case reopened in which there is a 99% chance that a man in my home state was killed and his body taken away and hidden by a Bigfoot. Yes, I believe some Bigfoot, just like clothes-wearing humans, are demented or overly aggressive, to say the least. I'd like to see the follow-up on this, too. Could you elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgerm Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Wasn't there talk of patty from the pgf being old/senile?The close up photos show an animal with no gray hair and walking in a normal manner. Its the excuse the believers give for patty not acting in the elusive nature that we have now all come to know about Bigfoot. I have read many reports of BFs being seen first or caught in the open, and most walk off in a hurried manner. Some scream and run off, but most look and walk off like they are saying, you don't scare me. Allowing a couple of cowboys on horses to get that close. It makes sense that horse smell and hoof sounds could disguise the presence of humans. Again others have come up on BFs to catch them in the open. Something that hasnt happened again to this day. Well this is what they believe to keep the pgf dream alive Patty does not appear to be mentally handicapped. I read the report the Branco provided that described sightings of a deformed BF that chattered and approached children playing. This one seems to be physically handicapped but mentally acute since it avoids adults and never gets shot. It's a missed opportunity for someone like Jane Goodall to quietly live on a farm such as this and study BFs that remain in the area for years. Too bad Fish and Wildlife have their heads in their arm pits and don't have the courage to say they exist so we can protect them now. I've written them and they say "no comment" ..................just a safe answer to protect their jobs. We will wait until a crazed BF or one injured on the highway is found. I'm not in a hurry.......BF is out there...........the mystery is fun to follow but the poor BFs do need protection from hunters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biggie Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I was going to mention the possibility of them going insane after getting rabies but scrutineer beat me to it. I have no reason to believe that is not possible. Branco please read this Admin link and stop quoting the user right above you in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FuriousGeorge Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 To answer the OP, yes, bigfoot can go insane. As far as the penguin video, that narrator bugs me a little. Why does the bird have to be crazy? There are many reasons for it to leave. Disease for one. It senses bad weather before the rest. It can't compete for a sparse amount of food in a large colony. That looks like an Adélie penguin. Since they are birds, they migrate. Since they can't fly, they walk. Sometimes for a long long distance. They migrate to their breeding grounds inland and off the ice in the summer. In the winter they travel back to the feeding grounds. They all don't have the same breeding grounds. They go to the one where they were born. If they are late, their mate may pair up with another. I would leave early too. Sure that penguin might have come out of the factory broken, just like any animal including bigfoot, but that narrator is guessing and everyone watching repeats it as fact. That bugs me. Even if it's doing something that the rest of the colony is not, that change is what drives evolution. If they were all the same, we wouldn't have penguins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wild eyed willy Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Good question, can BF go insane. Who knows would be my first guess. Even a not crazy one would have or should have been a road pizza by now. We humans get hit by vechles now and then. so do every other land dwelling species on the planet.. Why not squatches.. it boggles the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 If a bigfoot goes crazy in the middle of the forest, and no one is there to see it, does it still Samurai Chatter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgerm Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 BF has been hit before according to some reports, but they never get brought in or limp off. Think I read a BFRO report from Josephine County Oregon about a trucker hitting one and another from Portland, Oregon. The BF that took Osterman may have been off its rocker........................its wife was really pissed and the male really had no plan other than keeping this fellow. If it was't goofy then why don't more do this? It was probably bipolar characterized by risk taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Wasn't there talk of patty from the pgf being old/senile? Its the excuse the believers give for patty not acting in the elusive nature that we have now all come to know about Bigfoot. Allowing a couple of cowboys on horses to get that close. Something that hasnt happened again to this day. Well this is what they believe to keep the pgf dream alive Oh please...there are plenty of explanations that do not involve that. The approach of P&G could have been covered by the sound of the running water in the creek. They didn't get all THAT close to Patty during filming (distance measured at at least 100'. Even wary and circumspect creatures can and are caught by surprise on occasion. Acting in the elusive nature we have come to know. This can be said because if they do exist then they MUST be elusive, proven over and over again as we can't get close to them.... hence no more videos since patty. Untrue. there have been films AND still photos that may or may not be of BF since the PGF. I don't believe as there is no evidence. There is plenty of evidence to hand. You just refuse to accept it. Put evidence in front of me and I will be the first to change my mind. Read Dr Meldrum's book. Best summary of the evidence out there right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobZenor Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) They certainly could get mental disorders. They have a brain like the rest of us and it is prone to malfunction. That is often the fate of many of us when we just grow older. Even if they rarely suffer from delusions or psychosis, some would likely develop some kind of mental impairment as they grew old or from some other kind of injury or ailment. I could see them having such a difficult life that they just don't usually live long in an impaired state. I could also see them being much more wary in that state. It would still make me think there aren't very many of them or they aren't in more populated areas. Edited March 6, 2012 by BobZenor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kerchak Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Wasn't there talk of patty from the pgf being old/senile? Its the excuse the believers give for patty not acting in the elusive nature that we have now all come to know about Bigfoot. Not me. It's my opinion that Patty had possibly seen/observed P & G at times prior to the day of the filming (they had been riding up and down and all over the creeks and feeder creeks in the days before)and had watched their behaviour and not deemed them a danger even though she wanted nothing to do with them. Might even have gotten used to them in the area and let her guard down a bit more than usual. So then, if the animals that we refer to as "Bigfoot" actually exist and have went "mad", then it stands to reason that interactions with humans resulting in the death of the Bigfoot would have been inevitable. There was a fictional book written called Saquatch by M E Knerr where a bigfoot gets injured by a gun and goes loopy (due to the pain) and goes on a human killing spree and ends up getting killed itself. Er not really important to the thread but just saying'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I have often wondered (and have actually brought up many times in various threads on the old forum), do Bigfoots go "insane"? If they're real, than yes, just like all animals I suppose. can anyone come up with a valid reason as to why we don't have a single Type specimen by now? Nope. I mean......I could.........but well, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitakaze Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Wasn't there talk of patty from the pgf being old/senile? Old, yes, senile, no. According to Patterson's brother Les Patterson, Roger explained that the reason Patty was out in the daytime was because she was an "old bitch" (the female dog sense) and she was nearly blind, thus could not get about nocturnally as regular Bigfoots do. Check The Making of Bigfoot p. 79 for more on Les Patterson's recounting of Roger's statement on Patty. This interestingly coincides with Patterson's depiction of an elderly female Bigfoot in his 1966 book the year prior and his depiction of an account that nearly matches the encounter with Patty verbatim which he plagiarized from artist Morton Kunstler. His elderly female Bigfoot.. The top is Kunstler's original and the bottom is Roger's yoink for his '66 book... And this is the provenance for the best piece of footage Bigfoot proponents have to offer for the case of Bigfoot being something other than something we ourselves created. And one other thing, wow, holy cow, have I ever missed Volsquatch. We have one of our oldschool's finest here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Gentlemen, please don't derail this thread with PGF discussion. There are several threads active as we speak to do that to your hearts content. Anyone who wishes to enter a discussion on this iconic film please join the discussion on an existing thread or start another with a different angle if you wish. No point in derailing a thread to take it in a direction the OP did not intend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitakaze Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) Mark, I won't comment further on the PGF beyond this post regarding Patty's state of mental/physical health, but I did want to make clear what Patterson rationalized as the reason his particular Bigfoot behaved the way it did. It was not senility or dementia, but by his account simply blindess induced by advanced age. We apes are a bizarre evolutionary product. We have these massive brains and the bigger they get, the more they become susceptible to problems in the wiring and ghosts in the machine. From gorillas, to orangs, to chimps, to humans, we all lose our marbles and become dangerous from time to time. With a distribution such as that purported to Bigfoot, you would think that that scenario of aggressive Bigfoot meeting a bloody end at human hands would have occurred many times over by now. We apes have a tendency to get loose. The term "going ape" was not born in a vacuum. Edited March 6, 2012 by kitakaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Point well made with logic and forethought. As posted it fits into the thread rather nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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