Guest OntarioSquatch Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 Imagine if his story were to be true. Sasquatches having conversations and all that. Maybe they are more like us than we realize.
BobbyO Posted April 21, 2012 SSR Team Posted April 21, 2012 - Regarding your second point, if I understand correctly, I think that trying to discount Ostman's story by saying it is impossible to see Mt. Baker from the possible area of his escape is not workable. Mt. Baker is visible from many areas within area of concern. I'm with you BFS, i'm finding it hard to understand this other angle about Baker and it not being able to be seen from where he was. Mountains of Baker's size ( 10,000 ft plus ) are CLEARLY visible from 100 plus miles, from more than that too on clear days. Here's Rainier from Longview. Longview as per Rand Mcnally, is 126 miles to the South away from Paradise, WA which is on Rainier's slopes and Rainier is 25% taller than Baker so take that into consideration. That's a clear peak right there, something along the lines of what Ostman would have been looking at except North to South & it would have obviously been Baker's peak. Here's Rainier from the Capitol Forest. The Capitol Forest as per Rand Mcnally, is 124 miles to the West away from Paradise, WA which is on Rainier's slopes and Rainier is 25% taller than Baker so take that into consideration. You can even see Rainier from Portland on a clear day, and Portland is 155 miles away.
Guest BFSleuth Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 I agree. As I noted in the other thread I even saw Mt. Shasta from the summit of Mt. Rainier on a particularly cold and clear day. Granted, it was just a little pimple on the horizon, but I could tell what it was because of its location vis a vis the rest of the volcanoes and big mountains on down the Cascade range. That's a distance of well over 300 miles! Not all of it was visible, just the top, due to the curvature of the earth. That was a pretty neat day to be on the summit of Rainier. The clearest day I ever had up there. In summer time the haze starts obscuring the Oregon peaks just past Mt. Jefferson on a good day, and I never had another winter day as clear as that one.
Guest LAL Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 The peaks are quite distinctive in shape. It's pretty easy to tell one from another. They didn't have all that smog in 1924, either. I remember seeing Mt. Jefferson and beyond from Mt. Hood, probably at least as far as Three Sisters. Found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0FmZ44NgAU&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLC0D5F3524D3C4715
BobbyO Posted April 21, 2012 SSR Team Posted April 21, 2012 Absolutely LAL, i could definitely tell the difference between St Helens, Rainier, Adams, Baker & Mt Hood now, at all times, even in pictures that just showed individual mountains as opposed to pictures that showed them multiple mountains where they could be worked out. Adams & Shasta i think i may have trouble with as i think they look very similar in shape. Baker/Shuksan i think is pretty distinctive too. Baker always seems to have the most snow on it to me in Winter too when i look at pictures, anyone know if that's my imagination or if there's any truth to it ?
Guest BFSleuth Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 Baker either has or is really close to having the record for snowfall in one winter. There is a reason why Baker is so popular for snowboarders.... yaaaaawhoooo!!!!!
Guest OntarioSquatch Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 Do you think Sasquatches would live around the base? It would seem convenient having a creek nearby with a forest.
Guest BFSleuth Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 There are a number of sighting reports in the near vicinity of Mt. Baker: http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=3518 http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=6864 http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=4392 http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=10258 http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=60 http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=12997 http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=4808 (The BFRO layer for Google Earth is an invaluable tool) Baker has several square miles of glaciers which constantly feed several streams from all its flanks. The habitat is ideal for bear, so would also be ideal for BF. Salmon spawning streams, ungulates, lots of vegetation at a variety of elevations (which gives an opportunity for eating prime vegetation at various stages of "ripeness" at any time by just going up or down). But... back to the Ostman story...
Guest OntarioSquatch Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 Is Mt. Baker that same mountain albert was kidnapped around? If so, maybe it's worth a hike or two... Yehawwww!
Doc Holliday Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) this is an interesting story,one of my favorites as well. for being long before internet,pgf, monster quest etc.even with the yeti stuff back in the day, his details make for a good read in possible comparison to more modern reports. it may be complete BS or an extraordinary account, but it would be a good adventure for someone with the interest & resources to go there & validate or debunk the claims concerning locations etc. if true, imagine what would be going through your mind in such an ordeal............. Edited April 21, 2012 by slicktrick
Guest LAL Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 Absolutely LAL, i could definitely tell the difference between St Helens, Rainier, Adams, Baker & Mt Hood now, at all times, even in pictures that just showed individual mountains as opposed to pictures that showed them multiple mountains where they could be worked out. Adams & Shasta i think i may have trouble with as i think they look very similar in shape. Baker/Shuksan i think is pretty distinctive too. Baker always seems to have the most snow on it to me in Winter too when i look at pictures, anyone know if that's my imagination or if there's any truth to it ? Baker's the most northerly. Since Baker and Shasta are in different states and separated by Oregon you might confuse them in pictures but you couldn't if you were actually in the area.
georgerm Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) if true, imagine what would be going through your mind in such an ordeal............. Seems like Osterman took it pretty well, and didn't seem too afraid of them. The other fellow who was kidnapped from British Columbia stayed in a state of terror, paddled 40 odd miles to get home, and his hair turned white in a week. He had a bad case of post traumatic stress disorder and never really went far from the village. He thought they were going to eat him and freaked out. Edited April 22, 2012 by georgerm
Guest brucescotland Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 If we assume the PGF is the real deal, Ostmans description of the female BF was almost identical to Patty ie, no waist, gooselike walk, hanging breasts etc (unable to tell if Patty had "bangs" as such hairdoo.) and his story came out in 1957 ten years before the PGF. Amongst other things his description of how they just squatted down and rose up without using hands for support has been witnessed many times since also. Some details of the story might of had arms and legs added or been exaggerated by Ostman, but i for one definately think something happened and he was in the company of BF against his will for a week or so.
Doc Holliday Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 wasnt there another one where a railroad guy got nabbed & the female bf supposedly licked his feet raw to prevent his escape? read enough over at bigfootencounters,com and they start running together after a while,lol. think ostman may have been a little too calm about it? i dont know, he seemed a plain fellow, might not have been a bad life for a single guy already used to being out there,living w/ the squatch....raising a little squatchy family of his own w/ his furry young bride
Guest BFSleuth Posted April 22, 2012 Posted April 22, 2012 Is Mt. Baker that same mountain albert was kidnapped around? If so, maybe it's worth a hike or two... Yehawwww Mt. Baker is in the USA, just south of the boarder below Vancouver. "Ostman's Escapade" (copyright filed.... ) was well north of Vancouver, about 60-80 miles from Mt. Baker. I think the reason that Mt. Baker has entered discussion in this thread and the prior Ostman thread is simply that some folks have discounted his story based on his saying that he saw Mt. Baker from the top of the last ridge he crossed before descending to the place he was eventually rescued. My posts regarding that have simply noted that discounting his story based on this issue is incorrect, because Mt. Baker is readily seen from many locations over a widespread geographic area.
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