Guest OntarioSquatch Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) One of the biggest flaws I often see in the reasoning of denialists is they fill in the blanks with pre-conceived assumptions instead of using the phenomenon itself to get an idea of what's actually occurring. For instance, they claim that if Sasquatch are real, then we would have a type specimen by now. In reality, the entities we're discussing are supposedly extremely elusive. This is something that can be inferred from sighting frequency (reports per year) combined with with the behaviour described in the reports themselves. If you're not using the evidence at hand, then you're out of touch with the phenomenon. Edited June 23, 2017 by OntarioSquatch
Guest DWA Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 But there are other explanations. I don't think, in truth, that sasquatch is really any more elsusive than any species we know about. I would bet that *far fewer* people see several animals we know about in the wild annually (lynx; marten; wolverine; cougar). Reports, count on it, are the tip of the iceberg of encounters. Logic just dictates that; there is no presumption that 100% of people seeing one "would have reported by now" (while we're on that fallacy). And the guy that killed and closely examined one in Manitoba (and the one doing the same in western Washington) sure didn't bring 'em in for taxonomy. In fact they aren't the only two records of killing one (and there is no reason not to believe the others, other than you know Justin Smeja. *That* didn't happen).
Patterson-Gimlin Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 9 hours ago, DWA said: But there are other explanations. I don't think, in truth, that sasquatch is really any more elsusive than any species we know about. I would bet that *far fewer* people see several animals we know about in the wild annually (lynx; marten; wolverine; cougar). Reports, count on it, are the tip of the iceberg of encounters. Logic just dictates that; there is no presumption that 100% of people seeing one "would have reported by now" (while we're on that fallacy). And the guy that killed and closely examined one in Manitoba (and the one doing the same in western Washington) sure didn't bring 'em in for taxonomy. In fact they aren't the only two records of killing one (and there is no reason not to believe the others, other than you know Justin Smeja. *That* didn't happen). I agree the animals you mentioned are rarely seen or filmed or photographed. The major difference they have been and been documented. Sasquatch has not been. One awesome film and nothing else to see. There is enough anecdotal evidence that certainly warrants further research . I have read the Minnesota report from the 1941 incident. I enjoyed it. Don't recall the Western Washington one.
Guest DWA Posted June 24, 2017 Posted June 24, 2017 I don't know why Grover Krantz (who got the man's story) didn't publicize it. Of course he was more into footprints than stories, and considered the footprints alone to be proof even if there'd never been a sighting report, so...um...there you go. But he mentions the guy here, and the brief mention is enough to see what makes the report compelling even without the additional details: http://woodape.org/index.php/about-bigfoot/articles/91-anatomy-of-the-sasquatch-foot The rest is worth the read. The relevant paragraph is near the end.
Patterson-Gimlin Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 Thank you for sharing. All and all it was a nice read. I appreciate it. I wish there were more details on the supposed shot creature . the Manitoba one was great with the interview and other information.
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