A Laughable Theory I've Chewed On For A While...but...it May Be Close...naaa...something Funny About Skeptics.

[Guest]

Back in the 80's I believe, I read a fictional book. The book was horror/sci fi. I'm working hard to remember the name of this book, perhaps after reading this someone will recall it.

 

The book went like this -

 

There were people being killed and kidnapped by hairy creatures in the wilderness in America. The creatures were similar to what we know as BF here, except they weren't as big and had claws of course.

 

The big twist in the book was that the creatures turned out to be a type of human! Not werewolves as characters in the book were leading toward. But wait...it gets deeper...the creatures weren't merely a wild type of human...they were also trying hard to assimilate into modern human civilization.

 

Now this was impossible for them to do in their natural form because they looked like BF or werewolves. What they had begun doing was breeding with humans they kidnapped. They kept men and women in pens deep underground where they would force them to mate with the wild species.

 

It was weird because sometime the child born would pass for human, while other times the child born was too beastly looking. The beastly children would remain in the wild working as kidnappers or collectors, while the ones who were human looking would be schooled, educated and supported for placement in society. Using this method they had members of their tribe who were congressmen/women, police, professors, etc. Their number one goal was to achieve full assimilation into our society and to keep the secret.

 

If anyone saw one of the tribe and reported it to the authorities, that base was covered. If you killed one and attempted to show it to the authorities or even the media...that base was covered. They had just about all their bases covered so it was near impossible to out them. I think the clue the heroes used was something in a persons eye, a wild color which they couldn't breed out.

 

Now for whatever reason, a lot of skeptics bring this book to mind and have been for quite some time. It's almost as if some people resist the existence of BF as if their lives depend upon it.

 

Also, concerning BF and our government, It screams loud and clear that some agency in our government know plenty about squatch! I'm referring to all the sightings and reports. And in my case, I talked to a Fish and Wildlife guy and he had no problem informing me he was familiar with BF or "Wildman".

 

Gotta run right now...

[Oonjerah]

Could Nikolai Valuev be evidence of BF-human hybridization?   

 

Here's a BFF thread on BF books, fiction or not. 

Book Recomendations?

http://bigfootforums.com/index.php/topic/34249-book-recomendations/

 

 

Googled bigfoot fiction. Got this for one: 

(Couldn't tell if the site is a reading room, bookstore or what.)

goodreads: Popular Bigfoot Fiction Books (A list of 39 books)

http://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/bigfoot-fiction

 

Edited October 6, 2013 by Oonjerah

[Guest]

My "what if" on a hybridization and hypothetical (or otherwise) government suppression note, is...

 

"What if" the resistance to their existence is due to a cold war relic, a fear that Stalin's "super soldier" program of breeding humanzee hybrids actually worked somehow, or they managed to cross breed other apes, and the result was BF, secretly infiltrated into the US as a fifth column... you can easily imagine that theory gaining ground in the "reds under the bed" hyper paranoid McCarthy era... such that everything BF was clamped down on and suppressed.

[hiflier]

Hello Flashman2.0,

Your brain is starting to amaze me. Suppression of info is a cold-war UFO argument as well along with Alien/Human hybridization for assimilative purposes ( can anyone say "X-Files"?). It does sound like a good read though and the theme is right out of the 60's series "The Invaders" (anyone remember the "little finger" give away?) or "V".

Thanks Delta Zu

Edited October 6, 2013 by hiflier

[sheri]

There are plenty of old newspaper articles about BF before the cold war, and If you take into account native american stories also they were were here long before we were.

[Guest]

We're aware of this now, but it could have taken substantial work in several large libraries to be aware of that then maybe.... well I think it did take people such as John Green a good long while to get their stuff together in the 60s, but a decade or two earlier, if they first came to government attention then, then they might have not joined the dots and jumped to conclusions concerning ... http://www.scotsman.com/news/world/stalin-s-half-man-half-ape-super-warriors-1-686693

[sheri]

Ivanov failed at what he was trying to do.

[Guest]

Yes, but given incomplete information about the Soviet project back then, and incomplete information as to the history of sightings, seeming like a "new" thing if they only came to govt attention in that period (say 1940-1960) then false conclusions could have been reached.

 

To be absolutely clear, I'm not saying that BF are the result of those experiments, I am saying that they might have been THOUGHT to be, as a possible explanation of why there could be some government suppression of information regarding them. Military and defense secrets tend to last a long time, even if outmoded, superceded or just wrong.

 

(BTW they probably don't call them bigfoot or sasquatch, find the right "official" name for them and maybe FOIA requests will get something, but they can probably say honestly that they have nothing for those search terms.)

[sheri]

IMO I don't think the government thought they were hybrid's from experimentation. I think the government has always known about them. Have you ever thought about why they started national forest's, state forest's, county forest's and local forest preserves. In fact when it comes to forested area's we are almost where we were before the massive deforestation took place. This has been going on for decades, way before they started  worrying about climate change. Even today they are buying up land and creating more and more forested area's, wet lands, and prairies. I don't think there is a plot to hide it from people, I just think they don't know how to handle it, what problem's it's going to cause.

[Guest Darrell]

Why does it always come back to a government conspiricy?  Our government cant find its ass with a road map. Do you think the same government that cant even balance a budget or pass a continuing resolution to fund itself is also so competent to keep a speicies of bipedal hominid creatures secret? Thats almost laughable.

Edited October 8, 2013 by Darrell

[Guest Urkelbot]

Are the government flunkies running the Bigfoot conspiracy on furlough?

[Guest LarryP]

Why does it always come back to a government conspiricy?  Our government cant find its ass with a road map. Do you think the same government that cant even balance a budget or pass a continuing resolution to fund itself is also so competent to keep a speicies of bipedal hominid creatures secret? .

 

If you think about it, you just answered your own question.

 

The answer is yes and no.

[sheri]

Darrell, Where did I say conspiracy ? Also our government is smarter than you think. I saw one clearly in broad daylight. If I was able to see one in broad daylight  then how would the government not know about these creature's ? IMO you would have to be pretty naive to think the government doesn't know. I just think they don't say anything about it because their not sure how to handle it.

Urkelbot,  Maybe we should keep them on furlough and let them get a real job , LOL

Edited October 8, 2013 by sheri

[Guest]

Why does it always come back to a government conspiricy? Our government cant find its ass with a road map. Do you think the same government that cant even balance a budget or pass a continuing resolution to fund itself is also so competent to keep a speicies of bipedal hominid creatures secret? Thats almost laughable.

If our government were as incompetent as many try to paint them we would all be speaking German or Russian or Japanese, cultures who had governments which ran very effectively as they were dictatorships.

Make no mistake about it, when it cares, our government is the most well oiled machine in creation!

Edited October 8, 2013 by Delta Zu

[Guest Darrell]

Well I have worked for the govt for the last 30 yrs and my opinion is not the most positive. Since I am part of a Fed LE agency Im not on furlogh so maybe the main conspiricy keepers were excepted also.

IMO I don't think the government thought they were hybrid's from experimentation. I think the government has always known about them. Have you ever thought about why they started national forest's, state forest's, county forest's and local forest preserves. In fact when it comes to forested area's we are almost where we were before the massive deforestation took place. This has been going on for decades, way before they started  worrying about climate change. Even today they are buying up land and creating more and more forested area's, wet lands, and prairies. I don't think there is a plot to hide it from people, I just think they don't know how to handle it, what problem's it's going to cause.

You may not call it a conspiricy but that is exactly what you are saying.