Guest Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Notice some look like a monkey, some like a human!
hiflier Posted November 24, 2013 Author Posted November 24, 2013 Hello Wag, It is true that. In the JWG database I broke out the face shape variable into two separate columns as some of you have already seen. This way a sort criteria can be chosen for either characteristic as opposed to having to pick either attribute out of a single column in an attempt to isolate one or the other during research. The shape of the nose also had all three shapes in the same column and those have been broken out into three individual columns as well for the same purpose. This was done in the hopes that anyone doing research along different lines will be able to do it more efficiently without spending hours wading through a single column trying to isolate different the aspects themselves. better for one person to set things up this way than have twenty thrash through each column and redundantly isolate attributes one at a time every time a sort idea wanted to be implemented.
Guest lightheart Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 I think you should get a gold star for this Hiflier. Lots of work you are putting in. I'm thinking that it could prove interesting to compare ancient skulls to the nose data.
Guest Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Interesting drawings on the website Wag. Well hiflier I guess I'll just have to pay closer attentions to the nose with the bigfoots, lol. No prob there.
hiflier Posted November 24, 2013 Author Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) Hello lightheart, What a nice thing to say........LOVE the gold stars LOL. Your suggestion is an interesting one. It's a fine example of why more folks need to be involved in the brainstorming, and is yet another reason why I like this Forum. Perhaps the ones researching the Red Deer Cave People would take a look at the data, meager as it is. It just keeps me wondering what's in the BFRO stuff - THAT WE'LL NEVER SEE! Makes John Green look like a hero, which IMO he is. @brent michalycia, Maybe so. Although it's not the do-all-to-end-all nose shape is a beginning. We'll see how it stands up to the rest of the data. At this juncture I would like to thank everyone for their input. It's been fun Edited November 24, 2013 by hiflier
Guest Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Data the bigfoot is fun, is safe, la la la. Stay safe hiflier.
ThePhaige Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 In the Enoch book, It was described by Mike that the alleged SSq were a grouping of differently looking types. The more "human" looking and the more "ape like" and that they kept to their own groups and seem to serve different functions for the whole. If I recollect the reading he used the nose as a descriptive to differentiate the two groups. Just another data point perhaps.
BobbyO Posted November 25, 2013 SSR Team Posted November 25, 2013 Hiflier, try to look up a guy called Charles Middleton. His drawing are superb and are from witness testimony I think. Anyway, his faces ( one in particular ) are the closest thing I've ever seen to what I saw, your got lots of different noses and facial close ups with his stuff. Great work.
Guest Boolywooger Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Hiflier, you might find this link interesting. http://www.thepaintedcave.com/img/pete/sasketch/hypo/head/index.php
Guest lightheart Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Thanks for posting the link Boolywooger. I have looked at this site before. I just couldn't remember the link to it. What a great collection of images to compare.
hiflier Posted November 26, 2013 Author Posted November 26, 2013 Hello All, The last four posts have been super thank you very much. The Phaige, I need to delve into Enoch a bit more. Sounds intriguing. Hey, there BobbyO. Saw that sight but blew it on the name when I first posted it with the pics showing the different nose shapes as examples of the three John Green used as variables. I mistakenly said the person was Scott Carpenter, D'OH! Boolywooger, what can I say...Excellent link, thanks. All of this helps motivate the deeper look at the data which I'm still going through. So far nose-shape characteristics are not indicating much but there's more to be done before I can say whether or not it's any kind of determining factor. One thing is interesting though which seems to be corroborated in the Phaige's post. Different shapes don't appear to mingle which is something JG's database showed as well whith the limited data available as you perhaps noted in one of my earlier posts. One thing that is rather obvious that has come out of this is the different faces of Sasquatch. Very interesting indeed. I havent seen this phenomenon in the apes and makes me more than a little curious. In looking for patterns, to have that much of a variation might make it difficult to track any one kind as many would like to see happen...for many reasons. Migration being one. It would be a chance though to determine that they do not migrate but stay somewhat local as I've seen some members mention. All of your input reinforces that idea that there is a Community here which does help when invited onto a research thread which is a very cool thing to know. My hat is off to you all for your assistance.
BobbyO Posted November 26, 2013 SSR Team Posted November 26, 2013 The face on the front of the Enoch book I've always said was the second closest drawing to what I saw, behind the drawing by Middleton that was named " Ootaf " ( I think that spelling is right ). Can't vouch on the authenticity of the book however.
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