JDL Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 As I recall someone said that because some bigfoot reports were hoaxes, all bigfoot reports could be disregarded.
dmaker Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 ^^ Technically speaking that is a true statement if one places emphasis on "could". I have never said that all reports are the result, directly or indirectly, of a hoax.
JDL Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 What is the difference between Bigfoot and skeptics? Bigfoot have to live in the real world. 1
JanV Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 I can provide a skeptic body..... Please do! I can nominate a few...(but so could we all). :0)
JDL Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 I should have qualified my riddle to say subjective skeptics. Objective skeptics, Like Incorrigible1, do live in the real world. Incorrigible1. Not saying you haven't. Just asking to place where you're coming from. Have you spoken to many witnesses outside of the forum?
Incorrigible1 Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 No. One class two witness is the only personal types I've spoken with. Not a wealth of sightings in eastern NE.
Drew Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Well, you've posted on the forum over 2000 times now and, I assume from the way that you worded the above, have still not achieved your goal. I agree with you that some people who think that they have genuinely seen a Sasquatch are mistaken. Where do you think you have gone wrong thus far in not managing to convince a single person that they merely experienced an everyday hallucination and have been deluding themselves ever since? How do you know I haven't convinced someone who came on here and said, "Oh no duh, that is exactly what happened to me, I did NOT see a giant hairy apeman running around the outskirts of Toledo, I had a sleep hallucination."?
Guest DWA Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 ^^^I think the point is that it would be irrelevant to the overall question if you had. (And harmful if, in fact, it wasnt' a hallucination.)
the parkie Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 How do you know I haven't convinced someone who came on here and said, "Oh no duh, that is exactly what happened to me, I did NOT see a giant hairy apeman running around the outskirts of Toledo, I had a sleep hallucination."? Well I am naturally skeptical since I haven't seen any evidence. Do you have some? 1
roguefooter Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 ^Why would he need to provide evidence? He didn't make the claim.
the parkie Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) Drew is suggesting that something may have happened. I am saying that I would not be willing to accept that it happened unless I saw some convincing evidence to suggest that it did. In the same way that some people suggest that they have seen bigfoot and Drew saying that he would not be willing to accept that it happened unless he saw some convincing evidence to suggest that it did. Edited January 30, 2014 by the parkie
roguefooter Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) ^Nobody here ever "suggests" that they've seen a Bigfoot- a suggestion is only an idea and open to other possibilities. If people were actually open to other possibilities then this wouldn't even be an issue. Edited January 30, 2014 by roguefooter 1
Guest DWA Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) I don't think "open to other possibilities" is always a healthy option, or at least a serious one. I'm at my desk typing this. While I might be open to the possibility that I am in fact on the Fifth Stone from XPmnc'^%!%$, presenting my case for GLSMPELG to The Imperator, I'm not accepting it as my reality. "Suggesting" that everyone that's seen a bigfoot be "open to other possibilities," and considering that one's excuse to deep-six all the evidence, doesn't strike me as what a scientist - the ultimate realist, I always thought but I might be wrong - would do. I could also say that it sounds more than vaguely like an insult to people who, if the skeptics are right, are doing something I am quite confident I could never do in my life except in the grip of severe mental illness. But that is, of course, just me. Edited January 30, 2014 by DWA
Drew Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Drew is suggesting that something may have happened. I am saying that I would not be willing to accept that it happened unless I saw some convincing evidence to suggest that it did. In the same way that some people suggest that they have seen bigfoot and Drew saying that he would not be willing to accept that it happened unless he saw some convincing evidence to suggest that it did. Wrong. I was countering YOUR CLAIM, that I had not convinced anyone. You said: Where do you think you have gone wrong thus far in not managing to convince a single person that they merely experienced an everyday hallucination and have been deluding themselves ever since? I am simply saying, how would I know that I haven't convinced anyone. I was asking you to support your claim that I had not convinced anyone.
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