Guest DWA Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Tropical, temperate and polar: Bears; cats; dogs; birds; deer; amphibians and reptiles (OK only subarctic, but still); fish; pinnipeds; cetaceans; insects... Tropical and temperate: Pigs; marsupials; MONKEYS; sirenians; peccaries; ...well, you know.... ...aren't apes kind of conspicuous by their absence? The smartest of the whole bunch? Isn't this a vacuum nature almost has to fill? The evidence says yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 If it was confined to the PNW, it would be plausible. The -0F temps of the midwest and northern plains are a tougher sell though. Of course BF could just stealthily migrate to warmer climes, or hitch a ride on a Southbound Freight train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Well, I think loads of reasons have been stated upstairs that, nope, they're hanging in the cold, even hunting in the cold, and it would be good to know how that's happening, which would require confirmation. I can't understand, just me now, how one could be a scientist and not want to know this, and in fact be bent on tossing up every "it would be nice if they were real but..." excuse in the book - and then start making them up once the book was used up - to avoid looking. This is the coolest thing in biology (pun slightly intended) and....[crickets]...???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockape Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Perhaps they know to search out micro-climate areas for the winter. That could be as small an area as where the tree cover is so thick rain and snow does not penetrate and wind is not a factor. If you have a thick skin and are covered with fur, just a little can help a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 This is the coolest thing in biology (pun slightly intended) and....[crickets]...???????? If 10 unbiased scientist went into the woods to look for Bigfoot, with a Bigfoot Organization, and they came out after a month of searching, and said: "Well, we heard some unusual noises, and found some weird impressions in the ground, but we didn't find a Bigfoot." Would you say 'OK thanks for looking, your input was valuable in my view of the subject.', or would you say 'See! they found evidence but were incapable of seeing that it is from Bigfoot!'? How many scientists saying the same thing would it take to convince you that there aren't any Giant Apemen out in the woods? What criteria would you place on their expedition? Lets figure this out, so we can start getting an expedition together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I'd say: inadequate effort. You saw stuff...heard stuff...and made, what, NO EFFORT TO DETERMINE WHAT IT WAS AND NOW YOU'RE DONE? See, guys, not to crap on you or anything, but Science Fail there. Why constantly defend scientists' not doing their jobs? That one's interesting. Trying to get your, um, new BFF goal accomplished there...? And why is an existence question appearing on a "survive in the cold" thread? Hmn? I don't know if laymen properly understand this; but not seeing the target species in the flesh in a brief little survey excursion doesn't mean Mystery Solved. Solving the mystery on the other hand does. Now back to our topic. This has been answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted January 31, 2014 Admin Share Posted January 31, 2014 If it was confined to the PNW, it would be plausible. The -0F temps of the midwest and northern plains are a tougher sell though. Of course BF could just stealthily migrate to warmer climes, or hitch a ride on a Southbound Freight train. It gets that cold in the pacnw as well..... In fact it not only gets more snowfall than any place on the planet? It's also the coldest place in the lower 48. Rogers pass set the record at 70 below. And Stanley Idaho is the coldest mean average in the 48. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incorrigible1 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Little known fact, but bigfoot constructs hip flasks from bark and leaves. They are also adept at making crude stills from boulders. Cold? What cold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) If Bigfoot are sufficiently intelligent then I can't see why they couldn't devise of strategies to deal with colder than average temperatures. Thing is that they would be more focused on surviving and less focused on remaining undetected so now would be a good time to try and find one, ironically. Edited January 31, 2014 by Leftfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Little known fact, but bigfoot constructs hip flasks from bark and leaves. They are also adept at making crude stills from boulders. Cold? What cold? And Big Birds fly into the pages of mythology books. Oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiefoot Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 When questions like the OP get asked, I see a tendency to compare BF actions and solutions to other animals that live in their environment. I would rather ask what would I do in similar circumstance. If I accept the limitation of no/limited tools, no fire, remaining undetected, how can I and my family group survive in all kinds of weather. How would people with no clothes and no fire, make it work? With language, survival strategies can be shaped and handed down over generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I just don't see how bigfooot surviving the winter is implausible? Many animals, even primates, survive cold temperatures around the globe. Sure, some don't make it, but that's the cycle of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 When questions like the OP get asked, I see a tendency to compare BF actions and solutions to other animals that live in their environment. I would rather ask what would I do in similar circumstance. If I accept the limitation of no/limited tools, no fire, remaining undetected, how can I and my family group survive in all kinds of weather. How would people with no clothes and no fire, make it work? With language, survival strategies can be shaped and handed down over generations. If you had no clothes and no fire sub zero temperatures, you would die. Any shelter you had would be little more than an icebox. People have died of hypothermia in temperatures as high as 40 degrees farenhieght. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotter Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 ^Tum-mo. Those fellers don't..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salubrious Posted January 31, 2014 Moderator Share Posted January 31, 2014 A friend of mine spotted someone or something walking along the top of a ridge (which itself was at 11,000 feet). The ridge was in British Columbia, and is along a flyway often used by pilots between Alaska and the rest of the country. It was in March. He flew in as close as he could (turbulence), close enough to verify that it was definitely not a human. He could not make out its actual size of course, but its longer arms made it pretty obvious, and it was entirely in black. He figured at the time that it was about -11F. It seems that we humans really don't have a good handle on what or how other creatures survive the cold. Its been -20 here in recent days but I find rabbit tracks in my yard nearly every day. I have to think that they don't see it as being nearly so cold as we do. There is something to be said for being adapted to the environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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