hiflier Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) Hello All, The cave idea to me is a temporary situation for use in temporary extremes. I read a short discussion that Sasquatch is too intelligent to be trapped in a cave. I also read an instance where they WERE trapped in a cave (Ape Canyon). But in general I agree with the opinion of proof first then determination of habits. As has been said anthropomorphizing is a tendency sometimes and this cave idea may indeed fall into that category but animals do use caves occasionally as nature dictates and small creatures do sometimes live there. So the other side of the coin of shelter, a possible fatty food source, seems like a PLAUSIBLE answer to the cold-weather-survival discussion. I can't say I've any more to add on the topic. A remote shelter cave, maybe a small food supply, and a well placed trail cam or two is about as far as I can take it. Edited February 1, 2014 by hiflier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmaker Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 This discussion is moot to a degree. You can't apply human needs for survival on something that we know nothing about physiologically. Apples and oranges at best. I'm not convinced about that one. I think we should be able to make some pretty educated guesses based on other large primates. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelly Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Given that every other North American animal that lives in areas where it gets cold survives, I suppose Bigfoot does. Bears, cats, wolves, minks, beavers, mice, squirrels, deer, elk, marmots, porcupines and people... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) Hello Shelly, Even though I know what you mean I also know that you are being general. There are and will always be casualties for a number of reasons. It's why I had started the "Dead Sasquath" thread in the first place. To cover the possibility of death due to age primarily but also due to harsh winters/lack of nutrition. Mostly for the old age idea though. Edited February 1, 2014 by hiflier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dog Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 This discussion is moot to a degree. You can't apply human needs for survival on something that we know nothing about physiologically. Apples and oranges at best. I'm not convinced about that one. I think we should be able to make some pretty educated guesses based on other large primates. Why not? One can make guesses all day long, but without an absolute knowledge of the creature's physiology, the point is moot. Heck, we don't even know if they have hollow hair shafts or not, apparently with all of the hair samples turned in and tested, none are of an unknown primate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WV FOOTER Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Given that every other North American animal that lives in areas where it gets cold survives, I suppose Bigfoot does. Bears, cats, wolves, minks, beavers, mice, squirrels, deer, elk, marmots, porcupines and people... Don't forget the Bison that survive one of the Harshest places in the U.S. Yellowstone in the dead of Winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incorrigible1 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 The bison is noteworthy in that, when it freely roamed the Great Plains of North America, it would walk into a blizzard, and not retreat before it. Thus, it would shorten the time it was exposed to the storm. Yet the physiology of an enormous ungulate bovine is quite different that that of an envisioned upright, bipedal hominid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cervelo Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) I find personally that one of the main benefits of continuing to read reports is the way every one echoes practically every one before it. This is why they're the most potent evidence. I can't think of a single phenomenon with this volume and consistency of reportage that science hasn't proven. And no one has ever pointed one out to me. Which means the mainstream needs to get on the stick. Besides which: if one has my interest in wildlife and backcountry, the BFRO and NAWAC data is like an unlimited bag of candy. Krantz said that the footprints alone constitute virtual proof. I feel the same way about the encounter reports. Here ya go.... Worldwide distribution of reports, been reported since basically forever. But just like biggie nothing but reports lots and lots of reports, heaped into a big pile....of reports! Boo!....now ya got two examples! Edited February 2, 2014 by Cervelo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Hello Cervelo, Good grief, don't get me started LOL. I was buried in that genre for 3 years. BUT I had my reasons..... namely "J2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cervelo Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) Indeed!!! Yes lets get back on track.....yes it's highly unlikely a primate(monkey) exist in extremely cold climates of North America(US) or any part for that matter ....other than escapees in Fld Edited February 2, 2014 by Cervelo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Hello Cervelo, Well, the Snowsquatch that do go to Florida would have company... The resident Skunk Apes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Hello All, So, is that what happens here? Someone comes up with an idea and the BFRO people that visit here take it and run with it? Doesn't really matter if that's the case as long as they tell all when they get results. Somehow though? I find it unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 One can't make "guesses" about this animal based on other large primates. If we made "guesses" based on the caribou, the red brocket and the chital could not be real. If we made "guesses" based on the polar bear, we can comfortably scratch most other bears. And so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Hello DWA, There's a lot of guess work in spades as it is, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 ^^^Ohyeah. The last thing we need is guesses that flat deny the evidence is happening. Denying reality is a Bad Science Activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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