Guest crabshack Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) (Before It's News) Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:18 The results of a DNA analysis of one of the skulls are now back, and Brien Foerster, author of more than ten books and an authority on the ancient elongated headed people of South America, has just revealed the preliminary results of the analysis. He reports on the geneticist's findings: It had mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known so far. But a few fragments I was able to sequence from this sample indicate that if these mutations will hold we are dealing with a new human-like creature, very distant from Homo sapiens, Neanderthals and Denisovans. The cranial volume is up to 25 percent larger and 60 percent heavier than conventional human skulls, meaning they could not have been intentionally deformed through head binding/flattening. They also contain only one parietal plate, rather than two. The fact that the skulls’ features are not the result of cranial deformation means that the cause of the elongation is a mystery, and has been for decades. http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2014/02/initial-dna-analysis-of-paracas-elongated-skull-released-2464044.html http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/initial-dna-analysis-paracas-elongated-skull-released-incredible Edited February 10, 2014 by crabshack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) interesting... not the results of being intentionally deformed, kinda blows a hole in that theory . as the one article mentions, they arent sure "where this will fit in the evolutionary tree"........... if true, it just goes to show this old world may still hold a few secrets yet. Edited February 11, 2014 by Doc Holliday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguefooter Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 If there is anything to this we'll probably never know. They said that Melba Ketchum will be involved in the testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oonjerah Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Foerster - Pye - Ketchum? Paracas Skulls: DNA Update NEW INFO! http://www.ghosttheory.com/2014/02/05/paracas-skulls-dna-update Those skulls are extremely interesting. I doubt they're related to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernyahoo Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 It will be interesting to see if any other geneticists follow in the study of the skulls. Sykes seems right for it too. Someone will have to write a paper on it to make it stick. It's odd that these skulls haven't been tested before now, as they seem interesting enough to draw serious scientific analysis. I wonder if it's because someone said they look alien and that put the fringe stigma all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Geez yesterday I checked this thread out and thought wow this is an amazing discovery. Now I find out Ms. Ketchum is involved, bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotter Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 ^x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSA Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Trust the science, not the scientist. If it is reviewed and peer-approved, the identity of the author does not matter. Do we really need another confirmation that we don't have all the branches on the family tree identified? Apparently we do. My prediction is we might have a whole 'nother forest of family trees to sort through before the definitive conclusion is written. Keep your powder dry and stay tuned... I should add also, this explains quite handily why head deformation techniques were de rigeur in the ancient world, doesn't it? Trying to pass for one of these outliers would not be a bad career move, I'm thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernyahoo Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 It's been no secret Ketchum is involved, though she is not likely the only one testing the skulls. She does have connections with a bone DNA specialist and I'll bet "he" is doing alot of the work on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oonjerah Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) "Recent DNA testing, by a German team in 2010 of nearby Nazca skulls, as well as a sampling of Paracas ones, indicate that both the Nazca and Paracas were not genetically related to any other people in what is now known as Peru." http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-americas-opinion-guest-authors/elongated-human-skulls-peru-possible-evidence-lost I found the above last night. Spent over an hour trying to find details: What exactly did the German DNA team find? No Luck! Paracas (& Nazca) not related to other Peruvians. But are they even homo sapiens? Unique(?) skull and brain formation, consistent, probably not a mutation? What were they? ETA: Where are our Mainstream Anthropologists on this? Has it been written up since 1928? Edited February 11, 2014 by Oonjerah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) WSA, Stay tuned for what? Another self published online paper. At least we know it will be finished "soon". Edited February 11, 2014 by Nakani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotter Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 @WSA - I'm not gonna hold my breath, but if Science or the like back it up, well, I'll pay closer attention. Something tells me though that this will be DeNovo's second paper and you too can read it for 30 bux! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSA Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 If true, what I find most interesting about this discovery is what it is likely to mean to those who are invested in the primacy of man and the myth of eternal progress. This doesn't exactly fit with the party line, now does it? We are instructed as to man's dominion over all things at an early age, and anyone who bucks that dogma has some pretty rough sledding ahead of them. Ancillary to that is the idea of the arc of man's progress, inevitably leading to the colonization of the outer solar system, don'tcha know. Except that there is plenty of evidence, and mounting all the time, that man's progress is not linear, and might be punctuated with great leaps of knowledge, and then a retreat to a much lower state. Granted, I assume that a 25% larger brain pan equates to higher cognitive function (which might not necessarily be true) but it is obvious these beings were held up in fairly high regard, as evidenced by the funerary practices that ushered them out of this world. I would expect their cognitive abilities had a little something to do with that reverence. Beats me if we'll ever see a published paper guys, or not. Would be nice, but the half-a-loaf-better-than-none outcome at present is fairly compelling (sort of like Sykes' prehistoric bear announcement getting lost in all the skirmishing over the Sasquatch/not Sasquatch debate). That is the fact that these skulls lacked normal cranial sutures, were 25% larger than modern humans, and weren't obviously the result of deliberate cranial malformation. You don't need a peer-reviewed paper to consider the implications of that, and it is fairly easy to objectively confirm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotter Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 ^Agree, agree, agree!!! It's been shown through DNA now that the human race has been bottlenecked, there are abandoned cities dated to 200,000 YPB sitting under a mile of water in south america, ancient texts decipered to reveal some VERY interesting accounts...the list goes on...... I didn't want to come across as saying that Melba's involvement means these are 'just humans' that, for whatever reason had some disease or binding or what-have-you. It's just the 'fool me once' deal, y'know? I for one am VERY interested in what these skulls truly are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Urkelbot Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 , there are abandoned cities dated to 200,000 YPB sitting under a mile of water in south america, No there aren't. I don't know what garbage pile you pulled this from. The whole skull story stinks for lots of reasons. http://doubtfulnews.com/2014/02/foerster-pye-and-ketchum-collaborate-paracas-elongated-skull-exposed-its/ I'm guessing this all goes no where except ancient aliens and paranormal books sold by the dude behind this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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