Guest Alex MW Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Incorrigible, Surely they are physical creatures. Their remains really matter not to me personally because I've seen them. Why they are not found and/or found and not made publicly available is a different matter altogether. I know Jim Vieira had a description of a skeleton that was found and truly had the characteristics of a sasquatch. He had it some historical document or old newspaper clipping. I believe our good old Smithsonian whisked it away if memory serves me correctly. All those other giant skeletons didn't fit the description imho but this one did. EDIT: I'll ask him for it...very interesting. Then I'll post here Edited April 10, 2014 by Alex MW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Just the ease of getting wood knocks and unidentifed howls that arent coyote, wolf, cow or cougar, fox etc...in areas that would seem to be appropriate for them makes the point as he said. A very broad and thorough distribution in areas I have been it seems to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex MW Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Gearman, I bet you guys have even more than that. Place is full of them. If you guys have 1000 reports then divide that by 2% (if you think that's the likelyhood of seeing them). But first let's reduce that number for possible redundancy of having seen the same one multiple times. Let's use 500 to be ultra conservative. 500/.02 = 25,000 That's a scientific wild ass guess of an equation but probably hold pretty close to valid. Edited April 10, 2014 by Alex MW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) LOL, I know what ya mean. With the "Rise of the Planet Apes" a few years ago and the "Dawn of the Planet of the Apes" coming soon. Imagine if one day ALL of them walked out of hiding at the same time? **** !! haha Those reports are definietly some of the same locals being seen numerous times by different people that is correct Edited April 10, 2014 by GEARMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmaker Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Just the ease of getting wood knocks and unidentifed howls that arent coyote, wolf, cow or cougar, fox etc...in areas that would seem to be appropriate for them makes the point as he said. A very broad and thorough distribution in areas I have been it seems to me. Every time you hear what you think is a wood knock and an animal sound that you cannot identify then that means bigfoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Not necessarily dmaker, we share the sound from the recordings and go thru self debunking, some places have oil and gas equipment that sends sounds a carrying and we have to check for others making sounds, not all no. But good solid knocks that are not wood peckers, construction sights or random humans waiting in the woods to mess with researchers impromptu arrivals or knocks can't cover everything. Just saying "possible" BF knocks are not hard to come by and when they do they can be pretty hard to explain away to something else less exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmaker Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Not that hard to explain away really. There are lots of sounds that you might be mistaking, especially the simple fact that tree branches knock together in the breeze constantly. I hear that almost every time I'm in the forest. Big or small. Even a small urban green space I can hear those. I can assure you they are not bigfoot woodknock, or even possible bigfoot knocks. No doubt, we will have to agree to disagree. The notion that bigfoot population could be anything above zero is unbelievable, but in the millions? That just defies comprehension for me. How many have you personally seen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Every time you hear what you think is a wood knock and an animal sound that you cannot identify then that means bigfoot? We use the term "possible" and "unidentified" and "unknown" typically. Also consensus of several experienced audio reviewers to get a majority and nothing is guaranteed. I have had stuff that sounded like a man yelling but others were thinking a deep voiced canine. It is hard. I was referring to the "ease' more at wood knocks than the vocals as they are tougher to analyze I have had a half dozen close encounters (not counting countless knocks and vocals further away) but not ones with solid visual confirmation although I could count the pair of bright eyes with a hemispherical profile on a cheap thermal peeking around a tree trunk in the same forest as "X" as a maybe visual. Tree rubbing is alot different sound and also may I had knocks that solid and during atime when its calm with little to no wind... Another was with a group after hearing one walk across the creek in 30 degree weather late at night and the folks around me taking turns moving around to watch the one tree peeking at us at the woodline and a gravel bar in a creek we were staying behind a fell log and not getting closer to it (only about 30 yards or less). Some could see it but my vision was not good enough and I later got glasses for that reason because I am little nearsighted. Edited April 10, 2014 by GEARMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmaker Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) You have never had visual confirmation of a single bigfoot, yet you think there are tens of thousands of them out there? Anyway, thanks for sharing. I'm just a bit gobsmacked by your conviction in the absence of even a visual confirmation. Edited April 10, 2014 by dmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Yep, deal with it.. haha.. My other experiences like having one outside my tent with the weird mumble (speach?) (Oklahoma) which freaked me out and I didnt move or make a sound for a long while and I heard it finally step away with rocks moving under foot and being growled at very close range (Texas) by an unseen weird low low tone I had not heard before that made my more experienced buddy that had seen them get scared and want to get the hell out so we did and that was after unidentifed vocals around us, subtle movement and some earlier wood knocks. Hearing something foraging in water moving rocks around in the dead of winter at night and throwing a rock in the direction prompting a series of 3 primate like "Whoops", plus hearing one that sounded just like a bipedal person crossing thru thigh deep water across a creek in 30 degree weather at night. Same night as whoops and tree peeker group sighting. Edited April 10, 2014 by GEARMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex MW Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Well if he has thousands of sightings to look at and he doe the math, he doesn't need to see one. I suppose you're going to go up to your probable hero (Meldrum) and tell him the same thing about his 300 when he hasn't seen a one? Same logic right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiobill Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I actually enjoy the different perspectives on possible population density. I don't trust any of it but it's nice to hear from different folks with different experiences and ideas. I do wonder how one could tell the difference in whether a creature was bipedal or not while crossing hip deep water in the night? I've seen deer bound straight into water and splash their way to the other side or gingerly tiptoe across with hardly a sound. I've seen bull moose push a wave of water as they charge across a shallow pond and I've seen them hardly make a sound as they browse the salad bar. How could anyone tell at night with no visual who or what was crossing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stan Norton Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Agreed Bill. Apparently rock solid estimates of population density and distribution yet not one shred of verifiable evidence put forward. It's all left to an enigmatic 'ah well, you don't understand, you don't know'. Not one iota of scientific credibility in any of it. And this is coming from a serious proponent like me, not a hard-core scofftic. I simply fail to comprehend how, if sasquatch are so common, so widespread and apparently encountered with such frequency and ease by some, why it would be so tricky to gather some actual statistically valid empirical data, rather than yet more of the same wishy washy gloop that pervades this field like the plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex MW Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 What you shoul be wondering is why indigenous people that lived in and new their forest reported the same thing, as well as early explorers. You a diverse group saying the same thing and the law of large numbers very much points to the statistical validity. I do enjoy the discussion though guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmaker Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Well if he has thousands of sightings to look at and he doe the math, he doesn't need to see one. I suppose you're going to go up to your probable hero (Meldrum) and tell him the same thing about his 300 when he hasn't seen a one? Same logic right? Talking to me? Meldrum, my hero? No, not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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