hiflier Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Hello Norseman, I like that it looks like it has great visibility all around without having to bank sharp. Doesn'tappear to need much runway either. Nice bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogluddite Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 One last metric I can pull out - although its probably meaningless due to small sample size issues. In 8 of the encounters in NY/VT/western MA/western CT from 1971 to present during the winter (Dec, Jan, Feb) there is enough information given that either specifies the moon phase or allows a determination of the moon phase. We end up with: 4 encounters occurred during a waxing gibbous moon. 1 occurred during a waning gibbous moon 3 occurred during a waning quarter moon. I'm still somewhat stunned (or baffled, perhaps) by the small number of encounters reported during these three months - only 42 (adding in 5 encounters between 1894 - 1970) encounters during the winter months, out of a total of 322 encounters in these 4 states (or parts of states). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMBigfoot Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Hi Norseman, The tracks I found in Dec. 1999 were 3 different sets spread out, but moving down from a lake towards a meadow. But 2 of the 3 turned back and went back up towards the lake. I think because I was walking the road. The tracks I found in Feb. 2012 was from just one creature. It walked alongside the trail then crossed over the trail several times then up towards the creek. I looked at an older map and it shows that there is a meadow up there. Hi BobbyO, Why would bigfoots be up in these areas? Perhaps they feel safe and secure up there. I don't find it to be impossible for them to follow the creeks down to lower elevations to find/get food and bring it back up. I don't know what they eat, but both areas do have beavers. Maybe bigfoots like to eat beaver in the winter. Or perhaps they just like the view up there. I don't know, but if I had the time and money to find out the answers I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Maybe they like the isolation,solitude. They know humans rarely go up there in winter perhaps, just a guess. I believe you though CM. SAFE AND Secure , i agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted December 10, 2014 SSR Team Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) Hi BobbyO, Why would bigfoots be up in these areas? Perhaps they feel safe and secure up there. I don't find it to be impossible for them to follow the creeks down to lower elevations to find/get food and bring it back up. I don't know what they eat, but both areas do have beavers. Maybe bigfoots like to eat beaver in the winter. Or perhaps they just like the view up there. I don't know, but if I had the time and money to find out the answers I would. I see where you're coming from CM I just can't work out why, like everyone else. There isn't an abundance of food at higher elevations in the winter in general so if they were using high elevations, they highly likely need to be storing/caching food like you say which I guess isn't completely out of the question. I don't believe they'd be dropping and climbing 2,000ft or so daily but again, it wouldn't be out of the question even though it would use up some serious energy and calories. They'd definitely get more peace in higher elevations in the winter that's for sure, but they get that peace for a reason and that reason is not a great deal else is there as the conditions can be so bad so it comes at a price, especially if with young ones. Just one of the zillion conundrums within this subject.. But it's good to talk about this I think and get ideas out there. Edited December 10, 2014 by BobbyO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airdale Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Here's a report from Montana Norse, only about 30 miles from my home. It's from November 2012 by a local elk hunter who found a track way traversing a snow field. He cut the track at about 7,200 feet, very similar to the altitudes in the NW part of the state, and the tracks continued up and around the shoulder of the mountain. There are numerous small lakes on the east side of the mountain that likely wouldn't be frozen over that early in the year. http://bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=37974 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogluddite Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Hi Norseman, .... The tracks I found in Feb. 2012 was from just one creature. It walked alongside the trail then crossed over the trail several times then up towards the creek. I looked at an older map and it shows that there is a meadow up there. Hi BobbyO, Why would bigfoots be up in these areas? ...... Just to throw mud at the wall and see if it sticks .... One bit of data that most reports include is a description of what Bigfoot is doing. Some of the descriptions can be ambiguous or subject to interpretation, but not many. The vast majority of the time (e.g., 157 out of 322) Bigfoot is just be-bopping along (or as I call it, in tranit) and they happen to cross the path of a human who reports the encounter. Everyone also seems to agree that Bigfoot have some type of home range or territory. While there is a lot of speculation and Kentucky windage in figuring something like this out from reports, I've identified several pockets of encounters which could be attributed to a single Bigfoot or family group. Looking as those possibly related encounters as a group, its possible to figure a home range - these vary in size from a group of sightings in a 75 sq. mile area near Bennington, VT (1861-1879) to 875 sq. miles for Ole Slipperyskin, a possible Bigfoot that terrorized Vermonters in the 1810s. (I've also found an intriguing pocket from around 2005; it's not all ancient history.) So maybe Bigfoot is just going from Point A to Point B and using what is for them the most direct, or perhaps safest, route. Maybe the goal is the next ridge over, not the meadow up above. As others have said, lots of speculation and mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted December 11, 2014 Admin Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 I've seen reports before of winter time high altitude track way sightings. There was one just north of me in BC, that including a technician and a helicopter. My own opinion is that they are crossing from one valley to the next. The tracks I saw were motoring and not meandering and browsing. This year has been a disappointment, snow levels are sparse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC witness Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 "My own opinion is that they are crossing from one valley to the next." Norseman, that is exactly the situation with the spring snow trackway that I reported to John Green about 35 years ago. The tracks were going uphill on a logging road that I knew from past trips in the valley went from the creek drainage that I was in, to a notch in the mountains, overlooking the next river east. I had stood on the ridge at the top of that road a couple of times, and admired the view of the valley below. That road ended at the ridge, but a high tension powerline used the same pass from one valley to the next, so the trees beneath the lines were kept down, only light brush grew below them. At the time of the trackway find, the snow was wet, and deepened rapidly as I went up the road on foot, so I never got anywhere near the crest on that day, but it certainly looked like that's where the tracks were headed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMBigfoot Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Hi Norseman, In all your years you've spent in the outdoors, besides the one set of snow tracks you've seen. What other possible bigfoot sign or activity have you experienced in your search area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted December 11, 2014 Admin Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 I've seen saplings twisted down on several occasions, that's a supposed trait. And I have felt leery of a few areas before in dark timber while camping there with my mules and dog. One such place is old grand dad's cabin in the Frank Church wilderness. The dog went ape but stayed close to the fire, I just had my bed roll on the ground. It was late at night, and the mules pawed on the high line. Never did figure out the source and was probably a bear. I've had friends that have had a sighting and several vocal encounters of what they thought was a squatch. But nothing for myself and I've rode miles and miles of trail in Wa, Or, Id and Mt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMBigfoot Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Hi Norseman, I was asking because if you are experiencing any possible bigfoot sign or activity and need to use a FLIR to scan the surrounding area. I would be willing to let you use mine if you think it would help you with your search. I just got my FLIR updated and new rechargeable batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted December 12, 2014 Admin Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 I sure appreciate the offer, but I'd hate to borrow your equipment and have something go wrong or lose it n the mail. Would rather take you out and see what you could spot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMBigfoot Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 That's funny, I just saw on the news recently of a FedEx? delivery guy throwing a package at a persons door. I would not be a happy camper if my FLIR was in that box! If you get some bigfoot action going on I could probably get there faster than sending it to you anyways. If you are ever in the neighborhood down here. I would take you to my spot in the Mt. Hood N.F. I wasn't planning on going there until Spring/early Summer when the water level is high. But if you came down I wouldn't mind checking it out this winter to see what we could find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted December 12, 2014 Admin Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 I've been sticking close to my mom as she has cancer bud, maybe after my family is out of the woods so to speak............thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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