Need Some "wood Knocking" Help And Some Personal Experiences

[dlaw]

I believe daytime woodknocking is used for location of each other.  If BF used vocalizations readily during the day, it would be easier for us to locate them, but tree knocks are harder.  I remember one time I did 3 wood knocks before dark one evening and got reply wood knocks from 3 different locations, with the nearest about 250-300 yds away.  Pretty sure that one came from a cane brake, and i believe the other one came from the area of another cane brake.  The third one came from another area which is heavily wooded.

[southernyahoo]

One researcher I know is pretty sure they don't actually "Wood knock" so much as they just slam their hands together or something, I have gotten knocks back immediately and also sometimes had to wait a good 5-10 seconds before they happened so I really don't know. I have heard some that were more reasonably loud but louder than i could do that were pretty dang close to me(But behind cover, which I followed and found what may well be a pretty big heel print), and some that were like a shotgun or a explosion going off into the air in a way.

 

 

 

 

I've heard and my team recorded a number of the same experiences you have, including the giant bullfrog sound rapidly succeded by two whoops. Tracks, sightings, and woodknocks galore were also documented in the same area so I think you've got a fine place to research there.

 

I've recorded both knocks and a clapping sound in quick succession also from the same place above, so it may be that not all of them have a knocking stick with them.    

[Xion Comrade]

I've heard and my team recorded a number of the same experiences you have, including the giant bullfrog sound rapidly succeded by two whoops. Tracks, sightings, and woodknocks galore were also documented in the same area so I think you've got a fine place to research there.

 

I've recorded both knocks and a clapping sound in quick succession also from the same place above, so it may be that not all of them have a knocking stick with them.    

 

Awesome insight! It makes sense, atleast imo, that something as big and powerful as they are could produce alot of these knocking sounds merely with their hands. The heel-print I found in this area while I was following the knocks around I figured belonged to about a 8 foot tall individual, it was about 4 inches wide.

[BobbyO]

I've thought for years that some "knocks" could be made by hand claps, and remember talking to Bart Cutino in depth about the possibility of it.

Other Primates do it, Chimps if I remember right.

[Doc Holliday]

how about chest thumps ?

[Xion Comrade]

That's a real good idea Doc and I would figure they could make a ton of noise doing that with such huge chest cavities and solid chests!

[southernyahoo]

Hand claps are such a simple thing for any great ape. I think Gorillas beat there chest to get a resonance from their lungs out through their vocal tract but it doesn't strike me as being a very effective communication method. There's not many recordings of that type of sound from BF researchers that I've heard of, especially ones that could not be confused with woodpecker knocking.

[Guest WesT]

I think they use knocks to indicate to each other where they are. I use a more subtle approach to this. I make a "pop" sound using my hands and mouth which allows me to change the pitch and make several pops in quick succsession. It's not very loud, but loud enough to be heard in a relatively quiet forest for a short distance. If they're close by I'll get a quick response back, which makes think they either carrry around a stick, or, it's something else.....

[Doc Holliday]

doesn't strike me how  a loud , fleshy sounding thump would be confused with the wooden tap tap of a woodpecker. fwiw, I've heard both.

 

as far as researchers recordings ,not saying its always the case , but  I suspect many could be recording and  fooled by other researchers ( or would be enthusiasts inspired by FB)  knocking around . I've also ran into that when the shows were gaining popularity.

 

 i would wager that thump sound is harder to duplicate , so it makes sense that there wouldn't be as many recordings of the thump, imo.

Edited December 24, 2014 by Doc Holliday

[Lake County Bigfooot]

Here are a couple of recordings of woodknocks that I believe are from a young male Sasquatch. The first seems to be a reaction to, or setting off of coyotes. The second is just isolated and no response or reaction. Both were recorded in the 12-3am time frame, while it could possibly be a human, I think that is very unlikely given how armed myself and neighbors are, and the watch we keep on our 5 house neighborhood that backs up to the marsh.  Take it for what you will but I also

think the very initial sound that occurs after the siren is imitation of the siren.  The example that is followed by the moans

I include because it is a response from the distance, and might be an example of communication.  If anyone can rule

that moan out as a fox or something else please let me know, but as for now it is suspect.  It will also be obvious that I live

on a fairly busy road, after 2am the bars close and light traffic is typical, and I live on a chain of lakes with a larger river flowing into it just to my north. The Marsh is set back from the road such that you really cannot even tell there is a marsh and it is surrounded by trees.

sirens coyotes tree knocks.mp3

five wood knocks.mp3

Banging Moan Howl.mp3

Edited December 24, 2014 by Lake County Bigfooot

[southernyahoo]

doesn't strike me how  a loud , fleshy sounding thump would be confused with the wooden tap tap of a woodpecker. fwiw, I've heard both.

 

as far as researchers recordings ,not saying its always the case , but  I suspect many could be recording and  fooled by other researchers ( or would be enthusiasts inspired by FB)  knocking around . I've also ran into that when the shows were gaining popularity.

 

 i would wager that thump sound is harder to duplicate , so it makes sense that there wouldn't be as many recordings of the thump, imo.

 

If a fleshy thump isn't often recorded then it's not likely heard much either so that's why I would say it is less effective.  If you look up the pok pok sounds that a gorrilla makes beating his chest in his threat display you'll hear the resemblence to what a woodpecker makes on a hollow tree limb or trunk. The speed and note is very similar.

[Doc Holliday]

a series of  quicker pops from  a gorilla do  have a similar cadence but sound more like suction cups pops , if that makes sense, but without the wooden tone of a pileated.

 

either way , wood knock recordings I've heard generally aren't as quick as either a gorilla or a woodpecker...... although there probably are exceptions. 

i'd also consider  questions as to their authenticity.

 

but fwiw, the thump I refer too isn't a series of quick pops but a single or double note "thump - pause - thump"  .

 

the closest thing ive heard to compare was from a zoo gorilla that stood and hit its chest once with a closed hand... it gave me pause and instant flashback to  when I heard the thump in that dark creek bottom early one AM.....chalk it up to one of those " I don't know " moments I suppose.

[Xion Comrade]

What I hear always sounds like two big boulders being slammed together(Head sized and up) or something hitting wood, I was pretty close to one of the woodknocks when it happened and am pretty sure it was either something hitting the tree directly or something throwing a rock at it very very hard, can't think of any other way that sound could have been produced given the circumstance. I am pretty sure in that event that they were having a absolute hoot with me because wherever I heard a knock I just walked to it XD "No jim, throw it over there! I wonder how long we can make this little pale doofus keep walking back and forth!!! Hhahha"

[BobbyO]

Hand claps are such a simple thing for any great ape. I think Gorillas beat there chest to get a resonance from their lungs out through their vocal tract but it doesn't strike me as being a very effective communication method. There's not many recordings of that type of sound from BF researchers that I've heard of, especially ones that could not be confused with woodpecker knocking.

If you agree that a chest beat could be described as a "thump" there are lots within reports in various databases.

[Guest]

2 2x4s with hinge. 2.5 ft in length. Moneymaker made one, makes loud knocks, but he doesn't seem to carry it along.

 

Sas Chronicles guys are saying woodknocking info started with Moneymaker and BFRO, (He did introduce it) and that it is all bull, that before Moneymaker, no reports of wood-knocking existed (in conjunction with BF sightings, etc.)