Finding Bigfoot Crew Pushes The Gentle Giant Agenda A Bit Much

[Guest]

It seems like that abundance of resources allowed the PNW Indians to say "avoid mountain X, there be cannibals there...", as well. That seems a common theme up there. In rougher areas, like I believe it was Utah(?) where the Shoshone (?) cornered them in a cave and burned them due to the Sasquatches habit of stealing tribe members, it was a fight for survival. Also, the whole idea of different types fascinates me and could be the reason for the Old Man of the Woods VS. the cannibal demon monikers.

BTW, Andre the Giant would've made a perfect Bobo!

[Guest]

The ''Cannibal'' aspect could be ''cultural'' as, according to the 411 books, there are ''sweet spots'' where people tend to dissapear at higher levels, more or less. So its ''normal'' behavior being passed down.

 

Thought the cave-burning was burning ''Giants'' *humanoids, in the cave in Nevada. Oklahoma, there were ''BF wars'' and warriors were torn in half etc...Oky seemed to have a big problem in Winters with women and children going ''missing''.

[Cliff Barackman]

Hello, everyone.

 

It was this thread that motivated me to register for the BigfootForums instead of lurking around in the shadows of cyberspace. 

 

For this particular episode, the Finding Bigfoot cast members were faced with a situation where one producer wanted to push the "scary dangerous" bigfoot angle.  We three bigfooters (and Ranae too, though she doesn't think bigfoots are even real, so I'll leave her out of this discussion) view that as part of the problem with television depictions of sasquatches, so we pushed back against this particular producer.  Nobody was on board for that scary, overused angle but this one guy. The other producers knew we wouldn't go for it, and if we're not on board with something, it can get really difficult really fast.  We bigfooters are a hard-to-handle bunch of folks on a good day.  Don't let Bobo's teddy bear demeanor fool you.  Don't even get me started on trying to tell MM what to do...  I'm a pretty stubborn and pig-headed guy as well, despite how I'm edited.  We three individuals guide the bigfoot content of the show as well as we can from the back seat.  This was a situation where some back seat driving was needed.

 

So, if you perceived that we seemed to go a bit overboard with the "gentle giant" thing, you are probably right.  We never know what will make the edited version of the show, so we give it to the editors several times and hopefully one of the times we say it might make it through the editing process.  In this case, the editors made sure that our message was clear.  Bigfoots are not the murderous, violent monsters that television would want you to believe.  

 

For whatever it's worth, and solely speaking my own opinion...  These things are giant wild animals.  Of course they're potentially dangerous.  Chimps, who only stand around four feet tall, have strength that is 8 to 12 times greater than a person.  How much more so is a bigfoot's strength?  No matter how human-like anyone thinks sasquatches are, if people came in that size and dimension, they'd be amazingly dangerous too.  I just don't think they're an aggressive species.  If they were out to get us, there would be very few of us left.

[Guest]

Cliff, thank you very much for joining in the discussion. Your explanation makes perfect sense and your opinion is logical. Not to blow sunshine, but I really enjoy the show, even the wacky stuff Bobo says and does. He's a character!

It must be hard balancing what the crew believes/knows with what the producers believe will make good television. I applaud the balancing act. Again, your input here is truly appreciated and your explanation makes sense of the situation. Please stick around and share your thoughts. Thanks.

[JDL]

Cliff, do you believe that some people have had unprovoked dangerous or threatening encounters?

[1980squatch]

If they were out to get us, there would be very few of us left.

 

Also, they would not be unknown!

[LeafTalker]

Yay, Cliff! Everything you say is completely consistent with everything observant people have been observing from the beginning of your show (or, in my case, the near beginning; I didn't join the party until 2012).  

 

It's clear you have tremendous integrity, as do Bobo and others. I remember reading about the time the producers wanted to leave in (or did leave in?) a FLIR image and not disclose that it was later discovered to be a shot of a deer, I think it was. You and others objected to the deliberate misleading of the audience and raised a fuss about that editing decision with the producers. I think you even discussed that incident on one of the behind-the-scenes segments with Keith. 

 

Anyway, my point is, it's abundantly clear that you have enormous integrity. Thank you for that. That's a rare thing, as we all know. And thank you also for being so vigilant about this particular issue: not portraying BF as a "monster". Human beings have an unfortunate tendency to view as dangerous anything they don't completely understand. Those of us with some experience in this area know there is nothing to fear; but the numbers of fearful, inexperienced people are much greater, and those voices tend to drown out the others. Thank you for refusing to be drowned out! 

 

Fear is a big problem. Not only does it prevent people from being able to analyze correctly what's happening right in front of their faces, but it contributes to a strange kind of blindness that makes empathy almost impossible. A frightened person will characterize another person's apparent agitation as aggression, while simultaneously labeling their own agitation as courage, as heroism. 

 

As long as we continue to aggrandize ourselves for the very same behaviors we're criticizing in others, we're going to have a hard time convincing anyone else (that is, the BF) that it's worth it to hang out with us.  

 

So thank you for helping to give us a fighting chance of coming to consciousness of our hairy neighbors in the most peaceful way possible. That's a huge, huge service you're performing. 

 

With gratitude, 

 

LeafTalker

[Guest]

I was surprised by the name, but the response seems spot on. If it's not him, someone did a great job pretending😄. I have no reason to be doubtful. Hopefully, he'll come back. We have to remember, as a new member he can only post twice a day IIRC.

[bipedalist]

Cliff is a straight shooter, and he is doing a fantastic job with Orang Pendek research too.  I believe they have an uphill battle depicting their opinion against the cultural mantra of drooling, knuckle-dragging man-like monsters with the IQ of a green pea if it isn't like us.

[Guest]

...drooling, knuckle-dragging man-like monsters with the IQ of a green pea if it isn't like us.

You just described half the human population  Sasquatch probably checks his closet for us at bedtime.

[Hammer102492]

Cliff Barackman RULES.

Thank you for posting Cliff!