MIB Posted July 16, 2019 Moderator Share Posted July 16, 2019 12 hours ago, Catmandoo said: While trying to find info on permits and passes, I found the message that drones and unmanned aerial devices are not allowed in wilderness areas. Does not affect me but it's the 1st time that I have seen the 'no drone' message. Flight regulation conflict. Our wilderness areas here (federal) require aircraft to stay a minimum of 1200 feet above the ground. Drone regulations require them being no more than 400 feet above the ground. There's no legal way to meet both requirements. MIB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWWASAS Posted July 16, 2019 BFF Patron Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) Drones are unnecessarily loud. If they used slower geared but larger props they could reduce the noise by several times. The high speed props on most drones sound like an angry swarm of giant hornets. An example of what can be done is that in the Vietnam War the CIA was looking for a quiet night surveillance aircraft to fly low and look for traffic on the supply trails down from North Vietnam. What they did was take a Sweitzer Glider, add a very muffled gas motor that turned a very large, slow moving prop. You could not hear the airplane even a couple of hundred feet high. I saw the aircraft in some museum someplace. Edited July 16, 2019 by SWWASAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntster Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 11:19 AM, SWWASAS said: ......... in the Vietnam War the CIA was looking for a quiet night surveillance aircraft to fly low and look for traffic on the supply trails down from North Vietnam. What they did was take a Sweitzer Glider, add a very muffled gas motor that turned a very large, slow moving prop. You could not hear the airplane even a couple of hundred feet high. I saw the aircraft in some museum someplace. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_YO-3 We saw them flying in and out of NKP. The Army used them, too. Apparently law enforcement used them successfully after the war. One would think law enforcement would still love to utilize such aircraft alongside their noisy choppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted July 20, 2019 Admin Share Posted July 20, 2019 Went north from Sherman pass to Boulder pass today. Saw a dead raven... never seen that before. Saw some whitetail including a buck. And a cowboy rounding up cows. Also saw a Bluff creek of sorts. A burn had caused erosion and a creek bottom to fill with sand and debris. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatFoot Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I see 7 BFs in your last pic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted July 20, 2019 Admin Share Posted July 20, 2019 Red Angus back in the timber will get yer heart pumping fer one sec! Black charred stumps not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTreeWalker Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) Like that country. That raven looks like maybe a peregrine falcon took it out. But I've never seen that happen to a raven. Usually to seagulls around here. They take on an eagle now and then with no luck. I like the fireweed and indian paintbrush. Edited July 20, 2019 by BigTreeWalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwakwe Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Can't say I've seen a decimated raven either but their nests sure are a lot easier to find out here in the desert than they are back in Maine, Beautiful country Norseman! Don't know where I'm headed tomorrow but somewhere high. It's 104 degrees at 4200' I'd like to start doing some backpacking but after spending the last 25 yrs at 60' elevation, it feels as if I'm 90 when I start a relatively unladen uphill at 9000' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantor Posted July 20, 2019 Admin Share Posted July 20, 2019 We used to see dead ravens here in the East about 10 years ago, killed by the bird flu. The scavengers somehow know not to eat them. I guess the survivors are immune 'cause I haven't seen a dead one in years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted July 20, 2019 Admin Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Kiwakwe said: Can't say I've seen a decimated raven either but their nests sure are a lot easier to find out here in the desert than they are back in Maine, Beautiful country Norseman! Don't know where I'm headed tomorrow but somewhere high. It's 104 degrees at 4200' I'd like to start doing some backpacking but after spending the last 25 yrs at 60' elevation, it feels as if I'm 90 when I start a relatively unladen uphill at 9000' It was 50 and raining at 5000 ft here. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted July 20, 2019 Admin Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, gigantor said: We used to see dead ravens here in the East about 10 years ago, killed by the bird flu. The scavengers somehow know not to eat them. I guess the survivors are immune 'cause I haven't seen a dead one in years. This one was picked almost clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post norseman Posted July 21, 2019 Admin Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2019 Soaking in Ainsworth hotsprings this weekend. Took a drive today up through Kaslo to Trout lake BC. Hwy 31 turns to gravel. Saw a wolf cross in front of us about 200 yards away. Not sure what the pile of poo is. Kinda looks like Horse, but much too small. Kootenay Lake, Duncan Lake and Lardeau river looked full. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kiwakwe Posted July 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2019 Back to the Book Cliffs, near the Reservation, escaping 100+ degrees by getting up to 9700 feet. Cool nights to low 50s. Only saw one Muley. Beginning to think there isn't enough water up there to keep a Sas happy. A very quiet night, not even insect sounds, sleeping in the Rover with rear door and windows open. Camp was perched with a panoramic view and again, spent time with binocs watching clearings in the forest below and walking along old trail and forest rd after dusk. Lots of open sagebrush out there too. Camp, facing S : Just below the sagebrush "rim" in font of the truck: Some of the acres sagebrush: Scanning the forest below: And to the N: On the way down: 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison5716 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Beautiful photos, norseman and Kiwakwi! Looks like a couple of great locations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BC witness Posted July 22, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2019 Norseman, great shots of the Kaslo/Gerrard area. I hunted up there for 5 or 6 seasons, a couple of decades ago, with lots of success. Kiwakwe, I like your area a lot, too, though it does look a bit dry out there. I got out for about 5 hours this afternoon, 'cause I just HAD to try out the new lift kit in the Outlander. I chose a quiet valley about an hour from my home, and wasn't disappointed in the improvement to the ground clearance of the vehicle, or the peace and quiet of the spot I chose to explore. It's a steep creek valley South of the Fraser River, extending back towards the US border. Because the road access is not marked, and fairly well hidden from view of the main highway, it sees almost no traffic, with no lakes or camp areas to attract weekend warriors. I saw no one at all in the whole time I was up there. I did see a couple of grouse, some deer tracks, and a fairly big bear scat, but no other wildlife at all. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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