Animal Planet Bigfoot Series 6 Episodes on American BF Sightings

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Who says it was pitch black? Bobo appeared to see the figure on the hill without benefit of thermal or night vision equipment. Matt likely could not have run through the woods if it had been pitch black, as he was equipped with thermal, not night vision. You can't use thermal to navigate the woods safely. Note that the producers film at night with night vision, not thermal.

Matt did record it, and reports the subject was about to walk out of sight. Do you know of anyone who has successfully flanked a bigfoot? Do you know of anyone who has emitted a scream or woodknock while having a bigfoot under observation?

You provide some alternatives, but no one on the show provided any. If you would carefully read what I posted: "I didn't understand what the other three team members proposed as a better alternative to what Matt did." Again, no proposals by the other team members were televised. I never said I didn't understand "what the other members would propose," which you have interpreted as what the other members might have proposed.

Cliff's story wasn't televised and, I believe, had yet to be posted at the time I posted. Of interest is that Cliff and Matt were both using thermal cameras and they reported seeing different things. So much for the myth that thermal is the end all of bigfooting tools. I see no reason not to believe that Matt thought the figure to be human. Do you think Matt is bold enough or stupid enough to charge a bigfoot in the woods? Of course, charging an unknown human in the woods is something I would not call brilliant; after all, he might be big and burly, or he might be armed; besides, weren't they in a national forest, and don't we all have the right to be there?

>>> The figure was standing in pitch black, both Matt and Cliff said this. And, I did not say that Matt was using thermal to navigate the woods.

>>> Matt did not record it.

>>> Possibly, yes, I may know of examples of someone who successfully flanked a Bigfoot. Any one of the thousands of reports when someone rounded a trail and saw a Bigfoot standing on the path surprised to see them. So, whether intentional or accidental, I think that in fact there are instances when people have flanked a supposed Bigfoot.

>>> I did not say that no one on the show provided any alternatives. I was surprised that you couldn't conceive there were other alternatives. Your statement was ambiguous, so you're right that I may have misinterpreted your statement. Sorry if I did.

>>> Just because you "see no reason not to believe that Matt thought the figure was human." does not mean it was a human. That is just your opinion, not a fact, so I won't comment simply to be argumentative. I'll just respect your opinion on that one.

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Cliff B gives his version of the Show..

Whoah. Now if they could just get what Cliff said into the show, then THAT would be a cool show. Awesome vidoe.

[Guest]

Well, interesting there are no teeth marks on the elk bones, however to twist something without leaving said mark, once could conclude that would require an opposable thumb. Some of the other questions I would have would be, was it near any cliffs, nearest road, types of predators in the area and lastly any reports from the area of sasquatch.

There really is no other way to cause a spiral fracture except to twist the arm or leg. It's one of the signs pediatricians and ER Doc's look for in children who have been abused. I'm not sure if that is applicable to adults but I believe so.

[Guest wudewasa]

Whoah. Now if they could just get what Cliff said into the show, then THAT would be a cool show. Awesome vidoe.

That was wrong to promise bun bun to Bobo and then sell the rabbit to someone else. I'd love to see Bobo go off on that pet store owner- film it on a thermal cam!

Hopefully the animal went to a good home.

[Guest]

Looked up the spiral fracture info, it's one of those breaks where you have to hit just right like skiing or something where you can twist an arm or leg.

[Guest]

Looked up the spiral fracture info, it's one of those breaks where you have to hit just right like skiing or something where you can twist an arm or leg.

A spiral fracture (a.k.a. torsion fracture) is a bone fracture occurring when torque is applied along the axis of a bone.[1] While torsional forces are being applied along the parallel axis of a bone, planes perpendicular to this axis are not affected. Tension is exerted upon one part of the bone, while compressive forces are exerted upon the other. When these forces have exceeded the limit tolerable by the bone, fracture occurs.[1

I agree and thanks for your comment.

[Guest]

LOL Moneymaker the orthopedic surgeon

That was NOT a spiral fracture.

That was an oblique (nearly transverse) fracture of the type usually seen when a vehicle strikes a person....an impact injury, not a twisting injury.

It would be treated with an intramedullary nail. Spiral fractures are at a lesser angle to the long axis and generally exhibit a more irregular edge. If surgery is required they are generally treated with compression.

I guess MM should have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

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Hello BFF Members - As a new member, I'm glad to be here and look forward to getting to know you. I'd appreciate advice on something I've seen - a deer kill site. There were remains of three skeletons - all dismembered, legs broken, and feet taken off. A hunter friend told me he'd never seen anything like it before, and so I wonder whether there are any other creatures known to be capable of (for instance) twisting two feet off at the same time and leaving them lying next to each other. All skeletons were within a 30 foot radius of each other and lots of deer hair scattered around. Is it possible a bear could do this? Do bears typically have stash sites? Thanks in advance.

[Guest Cervelo]

What part of the country do you live in? It sounds like a mountain lion kill site or poachers. There is no proof Bigfoot eats anything! welcome to the fourm and your first encounter with a believe/skeptic!

[Guest wudewasa]

LOL Moneymaker the orthopedic surgeon

That was NOT a spiral fracture.

That was an oblique (nearly transverse) fracture of the type usually seen when a vehicle strikes a person....an impact injury, not a twisting injury.

It would be treated with an intramedullary nail. Spiral fractures are at a lesser angle to the long axis and generally exhibit a more irregular edge. If surgery is required they are generally treated with compression.

INCONCEIVABLE!!!!!!!

MM's analysis reminds me of Vincini's logic from "The Princess Bride" http://www.youtube.c...h?v=f6wqKb8EUxI

NEVER GO IN AGAINST MATT MONEYMAKER, WHEN SQUATCH IS ON THE LINE!

[Guest]

What part of the country do you live in? It sounds like a mountain lion kill site or poachers. There is no proof Bigfoot eats anything! welcome to the fourm and your first encounter with a believe/skeptic!

I'm in north central NJ -- do mountain lions have kill stashes such as mentioned to your knowledge, or typically break legs and dismember them and feet? Just curious and thank you.

[Guest billgreen2010]

im realy looking forward to watching all new finding bigfoot wa sasquatch segment this sunday nite or couple hours it should be realy interesting

[Guest]

PT, in the aerial footage of the river from the Oregon show, it appeared that a major paved road ran parallel to the river, and on the left side of it if you face downstream. This would be the same side of the river that the figure was on in the video, which would obviously cast a great deal of doubt on it, or would at least greatly increase the likelihood of it being a person. Additionally, as far as MM's comments regarding the uniform dark color of the figure and the ease with which they were able to see the colors of Bobo's clothes, I offer the following circumstances as a potential explanation, if the figure is indeed a person (who may have in fact been wearing dark clothes anyway, who knows? lol): The original video was made, I believe they said, in May or June. Regardless, the trees and understory at the site were completely leafed out, and of course that created shade and shadows. Anyone spending a lot of time in the woods can appreciate how much this can "darken" a lighter object. The reinactment video with Bobo standing in for the figure was taken in winter with no foliage on the trees and some snow in the background, causing him to really stand out, and accentuating the colors of his clothing greatly. In addition, he was wearing a light-colored coat, which added to the effect.

In response to MM's theory about BFs hunting deer by grabbing their back legs and breaking them, as lifelong hunter I am going to have to see that one to believe it. In my opinion, that has to be the most unlikely way for any kind of predator, especially a large bulky one, to hunt or catch a deer or elk. It is pretty dangerous for the predator as well, considering how sharp the hooves of deer are and how hard they can kick. I'd be interested in seeing some other experienced hunters post their thoughts on the topic, maybe in a new thread.

[Painthorse]

Re: The Oregon episode, my vote is human............unless the squatch is holding out a stringer of fish.

IF anyone has the show recorded go to where they are interviewing the guys. The one guy is saying " I'm hung up on the colors........then something like: hat, clothes, skin, colors. Can't see it on the figure on the left"

Just as he ends saying that the tape shows the figure in question raise it's left arm facing the viewer, it appears to be raising a STRINGER of fish, and it sways. Something is "connected" to that arm, lol.

Hasn't anyone else noticed that?

[Guest Southwind Monkey]

Perhaps I have missed any reference to the following subject in regards to the most recent Finding Bigfoot episode – Fishing for Bigfoot in Oregon on this forum. I also haven’t checked any other forums to see if it has been mentioned.

Towards the end of the show Bobo and Ranae are walking down a hill in an area where they had just heard vocalizations when Bobo sees with the FLIR a puddle of “steaming fresh†urine in the trail. He says that there are no elk tracks around it so the urine couldn’t have come from an elk and while he doesn’t definitely says it is from a Sasquatch, he says that with the howls they just heard ten minutes before there is a strong correlation between the two.

Then the lunacy begins. They walk away from it back up the hill without investigating it any further! I about fell over when there wasn’t any attempt to take a sample. This whole scene that had just played out was left hanging with no resolution.

Of course, this could have been due to editing but if this is the case, then the producers have done a disservice and are leading their viewers along. Pure and simple it was lame television. (I know all the arguments about “making good televisionâ€.)

Common sense dictates that there should have been a sample taken of the urine. It could have been obtained by digging up the whole area, soil and all and then have tests run on it.

Or… maybe the urine was just from one of the crew that ran down the hill a little bit and relieved themselves and didn’t tell anyone. That seems the most plausible answer to this mystery.

Overall, I’m not too impressed with this show though I continue to watch it hoping it will get better. But with only two episode left I doubt that will happen. In my opinion, the only researcher on the team with any common sense is Ranae. Over the last few years I’ve gone from a true believer to an ardent skeptic and this show hasn’t helped in wanting to make me change my mind.

[bipedalist]

Hasn't anyone else noticed that?

Nope but I'll go back and look now that you've mentioned it.