Missing 411

[wiiawiwb]

On 8/20/2025 at 4:38 PM, NorCalWitness said:

Paulides is a con man. I am surprised to see you prop him up. That is all. 

 

Have you personally visted the site of any Missing 411 case?

[Huntster]

2 hours ago, wiiawiwb said:

 

Have you personally visted the site of any Missing 411 case?

 

I haven't, but I did visit the site of a missing friend (and at the invitation of the Alaska State Troopers with a request to search a particular area). It was a classic Alaskan disappearance, and his remains were eventually found..........although in a spot where he should have been found by initial search parties.

[MIB]

4 hours ago, wiiawiwb said:

Have you personally visted the site of any Missing 411 case?

 

Yes, Wednesday last week.   Why?

[Huntster]

https://www.nps.gov/yose/learn/news/missing.htm

 

[OldMort]

Yosemite Search and Rescue has issued a breakdown and description of all of its responses for the year 2024.

 

Granted, they are not a law enforcement agency but at least we get a better idea of what is going on in the park and why.

 

For the record, I do not buy any of Paulides' "Yosemite Cluster" hypothesis at all.

 

Yosemite Search and Rescue 2024 rescue, death numbers released

[wiiawiwb]

On 9/12/2025 at 3:22 PM, MIB said:

 

Yes, Wednesday last week.   Why?

 

I think it is instructive to go to a Missing 411 site, walk the area, and spend time there, especially at night. I've been to one of the sites several dozen times and stayed many nights in the both the location where the person went missing and neighboring areas. I've also spoken to SAR group members that were involved, which was very helpful.   

 

I found Paulides' presentation to be spot on accurate--as in hitting the bullseye. 

 

The area is very strange and I personally know others who have also have spent time there, especially at night, and felt the same way. I've heard very interesting things and know people who've also heard or seen strange things both day and night at that particular spot and the surrounding region. 

 

It's a favorite area of mine but is also the only place I've ever been that is strange enough to have me on high alert, day or night, the entire time I'm there. 

[MIB]

6 hours ago, wiiawiwb said:

I found Paulides' presentation to be spot on accurate--as in hitting the bullseye. 

 

Interesting.   So far as the cases I've been able to dig into personally, the further I dig the more off-the-mark he is.    I would like to believe what he has to say but it simply does not hold up to scrutiny.   Most of the reports I've dug into have been in the Crater Lake cluster along with a couple in Idaho.    I'll try to give him the benefit of the doubt in other places.

[Explorer]

2 hours ago, MIB said:

 

Interesting.   So far as the cases I've been able to dig into personally, the further I dig the more off-the-mark he is.    I would like to believe what he has to say but it simply does not hold up to scrutiny.   Most of the reports I've dug into have been in the Crater Lake cluster along with a couple in Idaho.    I'll try to give him the benefit of the doubt in other places.

 

I agree with MIB's assessment. For the few cases that I dug deeply (that originally seemed bizarre and mysterious), I concluded that there were better prosaic alternative explanations that did not require an unknown agent.

 

In addition, Nick Kyle, who produces the Missing Enigma YouTube channel has done a terrific job examining many of Paulides' 411 cases in depth and has also arrived at prosaic explanations. 

 

I am not suggesting that all Paulides' 411 cases have prosaic explanations, but just the ones that I have looked at in depth and the ones that Nick has shown on his channel.

Nonetheless, I wonder about the quality of all the ones that have not been examined in depth by others. 

I am also a skeptic of his claims as OldMort stated above.

 

https://www.youtube.com/@TheMissingEnigma/videos

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Explorer

[MIB]

There is another aspect to Paulides.   We have to remember that he claims .. and his bigfoot books Tribal Bigfoot and Hoopa Project support this .. that he is the one who brought Melba Ketchum into the bigfoot world.   He continues to support the authenticity of her "study" yet it is a clear hoax from purchasing the journal which still has never published a second paper to providing DNA strings which do not add up to what she claims they add up to to any number of shady shenanigans intended to suppress evidence of her misdoing.    Until he separates himself from that quackery, I don't trust his judgement or his claims.   If he is even half as smart as he claims to be, he KNOWS exactly what he's embracing.  We are rightly judged by the company we choose to keep.  I feel the same about Scott Carpenter and Steve Isdahl, the difference is, even beyond those two, Paulides should know better.

 

MIB