southernyahoo Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Otherwise she could just say "he doesn't know what he's talking about" and move on. I think that is what she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Any ideas what the most likely publishing journal will be? Our center has a lot of subscriptions but we are pretty specialized although we do have Nature and Science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nalajr Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Does anyone know for sure if Dr. Meldrum has started his journal yet? When I read that his plans involved starting a scholarly journal several months ago the very first thing that came to my mind was this study will be in the first issue. What better way to get the POP a new journal would need than to carry a study saying that they have DNA proof Sassy is REAL? Can anyone confirm? Nalajr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Apparently Dr Ketchum doesn't think very highly of Dr Meldrum OR RHI: http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/03/dr-melba-ketchum-swats-down-another.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest poignant Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 ^What is Nat Geo's reputation these days? I've heard they're considered more "pop science" than they used to be. NatGeo magazine has degenerated to ads and pretty pictures (and constant reminders to renew your subscription). Somewhat understandable though, with internet being the preferred medium these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Does anyone know for sure if Dr. Meldrum has started his journal yet? When I read that his plans involved starting a scholarly journal several months ago the very first thing that came to my mind was this study will be in the first issue. What better way to get the POP a new journal would need than to carry a study saying that they have DNA proof Sassy is REAL? Can anyone confirm? Nalajr this might be what you are referring to http://www.isu.edu/rhi/editor.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted July 15, 2012 SSR Team Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) Edit : My bad. Edited July 15, 2012 by BobbyO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 It will be far cheaper to buy the single article than to subscribe to three likely journals. Subscriptions can cost hundreds of dollars for each. Also, be forewarned that the article itself will likely be very technical and may be a difficult read. I'll be purchasing the article myself and try to learn the finer points of DNA. Thanks BFS. I checked Nature and it's 135GBP for a yearly subscription. I assumed they published monthly or bi-monthly. But it's weekly which of course ratchets up the cost. If you have a subscription then you will get each edition e-mailed to you hot off the press, as it were. I imagine there may be something of a disorderly queue for single purchases of the article, as soon as word gets out. NatGeo magazine has degenerated to ads and pretty pictures (and constant reminders to renew your subscription). Somewhat understandable though, with internet being the preferred medium these days. My view too, poignant. NG has lovely pics etc. but it's all pitched at the layman. A complex DNA article in my view will have to live in a drier specialist journal. My guess is Nature, as they would love to break the natural science story of the century (so far) but would of course want the article to be absolutely 100% watertight. It would go a good way towards explaining the delay. May I also hazard that there will not be a single mention of the words 'Bigfoot' or 'Sasquatch' in the whole article. Maybe 'relic hominid' instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 It seems to me that the paper in its entirely will certainly be pirated and posted on the internet in very short order. With something of this magnitude, there will be no keeping a lid on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiefoot Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I have no certain knowledge of the journal, I didn't ask and wasn't told. I was told the paper was handed back without review from the first journal and I believe they have been working with the same journal since then. If I were to guess and this is only a guess. My top two picks would be Nature and Science, Nature being the one who according to rumor handed it back. It may have moved through more than two but I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 It seems to me that the paper in its entirely will certainly be pirated and posted on the internet in very short order. With something of this magnitude, there will be no keeping a lid on it. Chris I have to agree, I think we already see evidence of that activity across the board in the blogosphere and not just wrt to BFs...have you ever looked at Binverse (a paid file share) or the other torrent sites? The article will be available for cents via local Uni's and patron cards.... Personally, I would negotiate for open/full access as either the author or Journal....and it may be already positioned as free access... if anything close to a genome is included..it's the wave in that field isn't it?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest slimwitless Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I have no certain knowledge of the journal, I didn't ask and wasn't told. I was told the paper was handed back without review from the first journal and I believe they have been working with the same journal since then. If I were to guess and this is only a guess. My top two picks would be Nature and Science, Nature being the one who according to rumor handed it back. It may have moved through more than two but I don't think so. If you're right, it would be pretty significant. I've speculated here that it could still be at Nature regardless of the "handing back" and Ketchum's present tense denial that the paper wasn't at the Nature Group. I think a lot of people would be very surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Surprised and delighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest craichead Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I've been speculating about this too and I was thinking Nature at first too, but to my knowledge Dr Ketcham has flatly stated that it's neither of those. I suppose that could be untrue, but I think she wouldn't have answered so explicity if it was one of them. She could have just as easily refrained from commenting. But the more that I think about it I'm thinking National Geographic is the most likely candidate. Part of why it may be taking so long as well is that Nat Geo could be packaging the whole thing together with Erickson's video footage and the Nat Geo cable station. They're probably waiting to do the whole thing at once and I'd imagine there's also a lot going on with magazine distribution, etc. From the start this has been somewhat different than other journal submissions and all this could be why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I could be very wrong , but I don't think that Nat geo. magazine is peer reviewed or even accepts submissions from scientists . Again, I may be mistaken . Additionally, this would not be considered a credible scientific journal . Nothing at all meant against nat. geo as I think it is a great magazine , but I don't think it is considered to be part of the scientific literature . I think that the magazine employs writers and it is those writers that write up the material that is published in the magazine . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts