Guest BFSleuth Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) I think you may find reference to the red hair genes in some of Substad's posts early in this thread. Edited to add: I searched and don't find this. It may be in one of Substad's comments or interviews on other blogs. Still looked. Edited October 18, 2012 by BFSleuth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mdhunter Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 ^ Thanks for trying. I thought I had heard that also. That's why I assumed hair color. I got the same results trying to verify the info. I don't mind waiting for the report. It does suck sometimes not knowing the results, but that's life. Then I will still have to wait for the layman's version. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BFSleuth Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Now I've got my dander up and started searching for that red hair gene reference. Can't find it, but I could have sworn I read it either earlier in this thread, on a blog post, or during a blog(pod)cast. If anyone has the reference(s) I'd appreciate help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 It is mentioned in the Youtube vid of the late Mr. Stubstad sharing his story with his wife at home from earlier this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 does anyone know of the dates in witch samples were sent to other labs for testing ? i'm curious to the reason why no one else received a report on the samples from other labs, and made it public. it just seems that their is a hush across the board when it comes to the results of the samples. I'm beginning to think that there is more going on at a bigger scale, and it maybe all tied together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted October 18, 2012 BFF Patron Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) Now I've got my dander up and started searching for that red hair gene reference. Can't find it, but I could have sworn I read it either earlier in this thread, on a blog post, or during a blog(pod)cast. If anyone has the reference(s) I'd appreciate help with that. I think it was listed in the Ketchum copyright docs link posted in one of the threads too. MC1R Edited October 18, 2012 by bipedalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mdhunter Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 ^ HaHa, Bipedalist. That link is so far into stuff I have no desire to learn it ain't funny. By the time I got up to speed the paper would be out and translated to layman's terms. I guess I will have to get OK again with waiting. I used to have a geneticist that could help me understand what I wanted to know for practical use in my area of interest, but lost contact with her a year or so ago.That was getting into manipulating some fairly precise color genetics without losing other traits.She was the one that told me a lot of this isn't fully understood yet even though some literature states certain things as fact.I never thought about asking how this would relate to human/primate genetics. She probably could have dumbed it down for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mdhunter Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I just reread my post. I want to make it clear that the geneticist was not named Melba and was not from Texas. It is just a coincidence that I lost contact about a year ago.We just happened to be working on the same thing from different perspectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 NDA's vary in what can or can't be revealed. NDA's I've signed in the past preclude even acknowledging I have an NDA with "XYZ" company. If the NDA's with Dr. Ketchum allow for acknowledgment of the NDA agreement, then apparently they haven't violated the NDA. Fair enough Or there is not a very good picture of Native American DNA in the genebank. There was controversy on some previous genetic studies of Native American DNA. Was my impression that they don't have much Native DNA at all. Well, first, Native Americans still show up as H Sapiens Sapiens (ie, humans), so one gene sample is the same as any other in this regard. Second IF (and I stress "IF") some of the early rumors are true and BF is some form of interbreedable relict human, then similarities to NA DNA would be entirely appropriate, as that would be the group that it interbred most frequently with. Every NDA i've ever seen has an expiration date. If this goes on much longer, my guess is that NDAs executed in the early days of her study will have expired and we'll hear more from participants ... I had wondered if that might not be the case...but if it is, I would have expected to see Ketchum scrambling to get her paper out BEFORE that happened. I read mine just now, & it doesn't say that I can't publicly acknowledge that I have signed it. Does it have an expiration date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasfooty Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 How many samples of Native American DNA are in Genebank? If there is a low number of samples... That would explain the modern human DNA that doesn't quite fall in normal human range Genebank samples, no? What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gershake Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Still doesn't explain that the nuDNA differs so vastly from the mtDNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) Do all samples show this variance? They do not according to what little information there is on it. Only 4 of the samples seemed to be of note. Those samples are the Modern Human result yes? Maybe the samples had human DNA contamination from the collector/submitter. That could skew the Mitochondrial DNA results but not the nuclear as I understand it. The mtDNA is the human result yes? Edited October 19, 2012 by Woodswalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiefoot Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 With a number of labs testing and tests to replicate results, I am going out on a limb here and suggest that they will be able to rule out contamination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) Or that is why we have no publishing yet... Edited October 19, 2012 by Woodswalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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