Guest gershake Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 thanks jerrywayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Bass Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Jerry, you originally said it would be on a Russian website but Burtsev never says that, at least in this email. Where are you getting its going to be released on a Russian website? Or you just assuming they are the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cervelo Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 See above "on-line" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Just recently Dr Meldrum went to Russia to meet with Burtsev. Meldrum apparently felt Burtsev used him and maybe planted evidence in a cave. And I remember a documentary I saw Burtsev in about 7-8 years ago, didn't get a good rub from him then as I do now. Your last sentence is a thought that crossed my mind that it would be a shared effort, so maybe I'm jumping the gun there, but I think most of us were in the hoping for the best case scenario of a reputed journal and not a website my anti-Virus software will probably throw up warning flags. Hope I'm wrong. Here is Burtsev's accounting of a habituation location in Tennessee: http://alamas.ru/eng/publicat/Burtsev2.htm Ketchum now has Robin Lynne as her media handler. Lynne has a habituation location of several Bigfoot. Wonder if this location is where Ketchum saw her Bigfoot, and not at the "Texas lease" as reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Bass Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Doh, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernyahoo Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Don't think DWA mentioned a "science paper" at all. Are you saying that tested "Bigfoot" hair samples, in the past, have never come up "unknown primate?" Well, the press release does close with this: "Full details of the study will be presented in the near future when the study manuscript publishes." No he didn't, thats why I asked for it.........So the unknown primate result concerning a DNA test is questionable me and might be confused with morphological determinations. I think Ketchum's study is most likely valid, and any test on the same type of samples would show human since they mostly target the mtDNA either Cytochrome b or CO1 genes which are highly conserved. You would need a sizable nuDNA sequence or a paternity test to find the weird DNA most likely from the male lineage. This doesn't look good for Sykes, since he has hairs mostly and few will give him any nuDNA. The track record for Squatch hairs is also not good in yield from the shafts only. I think he will have mostly a non-result from most of his samples suspected to be BF, maybe some with human mito, and few less with a snippet of weird nuDNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cervelo Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Southern, How many sequences of this type have been done on humans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted November 25, 2012 BFF Patron Share Posted November 25, 2012 (edited) http://elibrary.ru/p...ription2011.asp Thematic collections and Academy science might be options when available. Just a thought. Those available: http://elibrary.ru/p...titles_free.asp Good luck with translations. Edited November 25, 2012 by bipedalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thermalman Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Is that offer for everyone, or part of a TV show with a set cast? Not sure. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I won't believe Anything I read , published in a Russian journal (scientific or not). The more I read that Burtsev is involved, the more skeptical i am.. it will ever amount to anything. Both of them (him and Dr. Ketchum) being deeply biased in the " forest people " opinions.. doesn't help the study, IMHO. Still.. the results of a scientific peer reviewed DNA study, should leave no doubt. At least, in the results of That particular study. The academic title of "hominologist" seems to be Russian invented. Please correct me, if I'm wrong. Never heard of such a title, here or elsewhere in the world. Haven't heard of everything, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Bass Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Here is Burtsev's accounting of a habituation location in Tennessee: http://alamas.ru/eng...at/Burtsev2.htm Ketchum now has Robin Lynne as her media handler. Lynne has a habituation location of several Bigfoot. Wonder if this location is where Ketchum saw her Bigfoot, and not at the "Texas lease" as reported. Yup, that's what the documentary I mentioned was about with Carter. At the time I kind of snickered at it, be amazing if what she claimed was true, because I bought zero of any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Jerry, you originally said it would be on a Russian website but Burtsev never says that, at least in this email. Where are you getting its going to be released on a Russian website? Or you just assuming they are the same thing? It could be read as jointly released in a Russian journal and web site, or a Russian web/journal. Thanks for pointing out that ambiguity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cervelo Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Imo, I think that is the "peer review"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VioletX Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Not sure. ??? Either way, my reaction is that the Spike dough is not the reason for the premature statements. So how do we all feel about Russian Journals, is there the possibility that the journal is a highly respected one and not just in Russia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhaige Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 My feeling is the leaked pre-information was put out there for fear of it being disappeared or sealed. I am hopeful there is enough irrefutable evidence in the report to enable it to stand on those merits, however I am not convinced. The implications of this study, and I think its accurate, are of such a magnitude that would blow the doors off this thing in ways most people wouldn't even think about. If proven this is almost larger than an Alien realization. The ramifications are frightening, but in a (light on the subject) kind of way. The Angel-DNA inclusion might be code for unknown-DNA, however I don't believe that's the case.I believe what is being said here is quite accurate and the SSq has already been documented many times in history already. I think that is what was meant and someone has pushed back on that knowing this would skew the seriousness of the study. We can already see how that is occurring. Funny thing is oh around 5-7k years ago there would be no disputing this and today in our infinite intelligence it just cant be so. Unless there is a larger agenda at play this will not make the light of the mainstream and there is that same amount of solid info coupled with just enough dis info to leave us where we started IMO. Time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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