Can Bigfoot speak.

[Somerset]

 

[Henry Stevens]

Apparently they can.  Various people have recorded the gibberish-sounding speech associated with bigfoot.  But only humans can speak so this throws a big monkey wrench into the bigfoot-as-ape theories.  If bigfoot is a derived australopithecine, then either we have to revise our definition of human, incorporate Australopithecus (if they are Australopithecus) into Homo (which is unlikely) or postulate some sort of Australopithecus-Homo interbreeding to account for this.

[BobbyO]

We are trawling the depths of the red tops there Mr Somerset, but to answer your question, it would appear so !
 

Get your head in to Ron Morehead and his 'Sierra Sounds'. There's books, documentaries and interviews galore on it, so fill your boots..;)

[cromag]

I have listened to both of the "Sierra Sounds " cds many times. And we're talking probably 100 times each. What's fascinating to me is, at least in my opinion, those sounds would be impossible to fake. First and foremost, the vocalizations run the gamut of speech patterns and inflections. In the various recordings, the vocalizations contain phonemes, laughter, elements of exasperation,  and the fact that there are at least 4 different sources of the vocalizations as well. You can clearly discern a very large, deep voice. A very feminine high pitched voice, and occasionally a very small voice.

 

There is a part in the recordings where one of the hunters is mimicking one of the squatches. The squatch would whistle, or make some kind of vocalization, and the hunter would try to mimic it. At one point, clear as a bell, you can hear the squatch laughing at the hunter.

The sounds were studied in the late 70's. The results were: there were at least 4 different subjects making the vocalizations. According to their findings, the deepest voice had a vocal tract of someone/something that was extraordinarily tall. I want to say they put the subject at around 8 ft.

Also, they determined the whistles were made with the vocal chords, and not the pursing of lips (as humans do). The hunters believed the group consisted of "The Old Man", the deepest voice and probably the father. A female, the high pitched, feminine voice, and 2 younger ones. The first set of recordings were made in 1972. Those recordings were much more hostile sounding, and very rapid fire chimp like articulations. The second set of recording were made 2 years later in 1974, and the vocalizations were much slower, and had the sound of some sort of language. Also, the squatch in the first set of recordings was the "Old Man" in the second set of recordings. They believe the "Old Man" came back, with his family, and deliberately slowed down their vocalizations in an attempt to communicate in 1974.

Look for interviews with R. Scott Nelson on this subject. In the late 2000's, his son was doing a book report on Bigfoot for school. They did a web search and came across snippets of the Sierra Sounds. Mr. Nelson is a retired Naval crypto linguist. He was trained to find coded messages in any kind of audio correspondence. Language played backwards, foreign languages played backwards, etc. He immediately identified the vocalizations as "Language as we define it". He obtained the original recordings from Ron Morehead, and had the necessary equipment to eliminate all the background noise, clean up the audio, etc. etc. 

Mr. Nelson said of the recordings, that again there were at least 4 different subjects, and in many instances they are talking over each other. They most definitely are speaking some kind of language as we define it. There were repeated phrases, and that they might even have names for one another.

He's actually studied other recordings from various parts of the U.S., and found similarities in them. In one interview i heard, Mr. Nelson sent the recordings to a colleague in Japan that specialized in ancient Japanese dialects. His colleague contacted him and thought it was a very elaborate joke.

When Mr. Nelson asked why, colleague responded with '" There are small bits of a Japanese dialect that no one has used in centuries in these recordings." Maybe the Samurai Chatter, as we call it, is just that.

If you have not heard these, they are very much worth listening to. There's actually lots of other interesting things about the vocalizations, but this kind of touches on the high points.

[norseman]

On 1/30/2021 at 1:53 PM, Somerset said:

 

 

https://www.livescience.com/7468-hyoid-bone-changed-history.html

 

Negative. Chimps physically cannot talk. We will know if Bigfeet can talk when we inspect the body of one for a hyoid bone.
 

[timonsgirl]

There have been cases of them speaking English as well. A lady who Wes Germer of Sasquatch Chronicles visited had them calling not only her dog's name but her name as well. It maybe mimicking, as a parrot would do, but they seemed to understand who they were addressing. They would only call the dog's name when she had the dog outside with her. And just the fact that they might be capable of speak English when they chose to is amazing. Wes discovered her husband often called her name from outside when he got home from work so they obviously learned her name from him.

 

There was another guy on SC who had a similar experience. He thought his friend was trying to scare him in the woods so he called out his name a few times and told him to stop it. The creature pacing him started calling out his friend's name as well. And he swears it laughed after doing it a few times, like it knew it was freaking him out and thought it was funny. That indicates a lot more than just mimicry. 

[bipedalist]

On 1/31/2021 at 9:24 AM, Henry Stevens said:

Apparently they can.  Various people have recorded the gibberish-sounding speech associated with bigfoot.  But only humans can speak so this throws a big monkey wrench into the bigfoot-as-ape theories.  If bigfoot is a derived australopithecine, then either we have to revise our definition of human, incorporate Australopithecus (if they are Australopithecus) into Homo (which is unlikely) or postulate some sort of Australopithecus-Homo interbreeding to account for this.

 

Or perhaps, space monkey visitors ala Chewbacca are alive and well in the woods or cyborg versions of such that have an interest in extinct Japanese dialects and Samurai

[cromag]

3 hours ago, bipedalist said:

 

Or perhaps, space monkey visitors ala Chewbacca are alive and well in the woods or cyborg versions of such that have an interest in extinct Japanese dialects and Samurai

Have you ever listened to the Sierra Sounds cd's ? You might find them interesting, even if you are skeptical of the subject.

[BlackRockBigfoot]

4 hours ago, timonsgirl said:

There have been cases of them speaking English as well. A lady who Wes Germer of Sasquatch Chronicles visited had them calling not only her dog's name but her name as well. It maybe mimicking, as a parrot would do, but they seemed to understand who they were addressing. They would only call the dog's name when she had the dog outside with her. And just the fact that they might be capable of speak English when they chose to is amazing. Wes discovered her husband often called her name from outside when he got home from work so they obviously learned her name from him.

 

There was another guy on SC who had a similar experience. He thought his friend was trying to scare him in the woods so he called out his name a few times and told him to stop it. The creature pacing him started calling out his friend's name as well. And he swears it laughed after doing it a few times, like it knew it was freaking him out and thought it was funny. That indicates a lot more than just mimicry. 

On the subject of mimicking, you should check out the Devil's Creek case that the guys from the OK Talk podcast were covering.

 

Whatever was in the woods around their house would call to their dogs... using the same cadence that the husband used when calling the dogs in for the night.  They were able to record the vocalizations.  It sounded as if a hearing impaired person was attempting to mimic the husband.

[BlackRockBigfoot]

https://oktalk.podbean.com/e/devils-creek-an-american-horror-story/

 

The podcast that I mentioned.

[Somerset]

I think within 6 months you could have a captive BF using the English language to some degree. 

[spacemonkeymafia]

Listening to Bear and Coonbo once they told a story of a bigfoot mimicking the word "cheeseburger" from someone yelling to his friends he had the cheeseburgers ready.

[BobbyO]

7 hours ago, BlackRockBigfoot said:

On the subject of mimicking, you should check out the Devil's Creek case that the guys from the OK Talk podcast were covering.

 

Whatever was in the woods around their house would call to their dogs... using the same cadence that the husband used when calling the dogs in for the night.  They were able to record the vocalizations.  It sounded as if a hearing impaired person was attempting to mimic the husband.

 

I visited the location of this in 2019, strange (but beautiful and incredibly unique) place no doubt and i forgot all about it with my earlier post.

 

The 'Layla > Bridget' recordings are some of the most incredible recordings i've heard.

 

 

[BlackRockBigfoot]

1 minute ago, BobbyO said:

 

I visited the location of this in 2019, strange (but beautiful and incredibly unique) place no doubt and i forgot all about it with my earlier post.

 

The 'Layla > Bridget' recordings are some of the most incredible recordings i've heard.

 

 

That's fascinating.  Did the couple we are talking about it still own it then?  I know that they were in the process of trying to sell it.  I assume that they sold it, and either the new owners are not having any activity or they do not want to go on record about any activity that they may be experiencing.

 

I found the wife to be one of the most credible sounding witnesses that I have ever heard.  

[BobbyO]

They did own it then yeah, sold now, all gone.

 

Funny you should say that too about the new owners, i said that it would be cool if one day in the (near) future that the phone call came to where it came before hand that opened up the line of contact.

 

I do wonder about the animals themselves though and how they view the changing dynamics of a new situation like that, with new people/vehicles coming and going etc.

 

It definitely seems they're braver when approaching human habitation when a human female is home alone quite a lot though.