Scent associated with encounters

[Hoekler73]

Some, but not all, sasquatch witnesses report a strong odor when the subject is near...

Perhaps not coincidentally, Adult male gorillas have large apocrine (scent) glands in their armpits that produce a pungent odor when excited or stressed.

In your opinion, could this help explain the odor sometimes connected to Bigfoot?

 

https://seaworld.org/animals/all-about/gorilla/characteristics/

 

[hiflier]

It is also seems to be associated more with Genoskwa. A more aggressive, gray-haired, head-twisting, decapitation type Sasquatch species according to legend.

[ShadowBorn]

I have smelt them on trails following me. But have also notice the wind direction and the smell would just vanish when I would stop.  So could it also be that they might be aware of how they smell. Like I have said that I have notice the wind direction and from where the smell was coming from. The smell would clear. Yet, I would still hear movement along the side of the trail. 

 

I am not sure that apes/chimps are self aware of there own smell like us humans are. We hunt so we try to hide our scent from the game that we are hunting. So do these creatures do the same with us. I am not saying that we are their game. But they do observe us in some form that when we smell them and look in the direction from where the smell is coming from. They seem to know to move and hide. Just my observations.  

[MIB]

1 hour ago, Hoekler73 said:

Some, but not all, sasquatch witnesses report a strong odor when the subject is near...

Perhaps not coincidentally, Adult male gorillas have large apocrine (scent) glands in their armpits that produce a pungent odor when excited or stressed.

In your opinion, could this help explain the odor sometimes connected to Bigfoot?

 

https://seaworld.org/animals/all-about/gorilla/characteristics/

 

 

Good question.    I'm cautiously skeptical.   The reason is that when I have smelled what I suspect may be bigfoot, there have been no other indications of their presence.   When I have seen them, found tracks, been whooped at, exchanged whistles, had things thrown near me, and during the camp visits backpacking, I've smelled nothing. 

 

Some here may recall my account of bumping into a strong, acrid fecal smell on the mountain in 2007.     A few years ago I was out of town in training for a week.   I was wearing Merrell Trail Gloves walking from the hotel to class.  One day I bent over to take the shoes off and I got hit by essentially the same smell.  My first thought was that I'd somehow unknowingly "soiled" my pants.  :( :( :(  However, it was coming from the shoes.   They are plastic and don't breath very well.   Apparently they retain foot moisture and it ferments.   :( :( :(   Unpleasantly.    So .. I have to leave what you're suggesting on the table as a possibility.    If that is the case, I think it most likely to be a result of a startle reaction, not something under conscious control nor something that happens if situations develop slowly.

 

MIB

 

 

[wiiawiwb]

Two years ago, on a mountain-ridge trail, a sasquatching friend and I encountered a very strong odor one associates with bigfoot. We stopped and looked around but didn't see anything. It's an area he and I've talked about staying overnight as it has a pond nearby.  It's the only time I've ever run into that type of odor before.

[CelticKevin]

I've always thought that the scent was more related to how possibly "stressed" or "excited" the BF is. If they are just ambling along and are aware you are around and they have good cover, they may not stink. But if you drop in on them when they aren't aware of your approach or are fishing and hunting in their food areas...well, they may get upset and the smell comes out as a natural warning like a snake rattle. Be  fairly easy way for them to mark territory as well.

[norseman]

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/weird-science/planet-stinky-apes-gorillas-use-b-o-weapon-n152391

 

In Gorillas it can be turned on and off.

 

 

[Hoekler73]

On 12/9/2021 at 11:02 AM, MIB said:

 

Good question.    I'm cautiously skeptical.   The reason is that when I have smelled what I suspect may be bigfoot, there have been no other indications of their presence.   When I have seen them, found tracks, been whooped at, exchanged whistles, had things thrown near me, and during the camp visits backpacking, I've smelled nothing. 

 

Some here may recall my account of bumping into a strong, acrid fecal smell on the mountain in 2007.     A few years ago I was out of town in training for a week.   I was wearing Merrell Trail Gloves walking from the hotel to class.  One day I bent over to take the shoes off and I got hit by essentially the same smell.  My first thought was that I'd somehow unknowingly "soiled" my pants.  :( :( :(  However, it was coming from the shoes.   They are plastic and don't breath very well.   Apparently they retain foot moisture and it ferments.   :( :( :(   Unpleasantly.    So .. I have to leave what you're suggesting on the table as a possibility.    If that is the case, I think it most likely to be a result of a startle reaction, not something under conscious control nor something that happens if situations develop slowly.

 

MIB

 

 

For what it's worth, I absolutely think that it hypothetically would be an involuntary stress/ adrenaline response if this is, in fact, the source of the odor. That would perhaps explain why not every witness notices an odor.

 

It is interesting either way that a known species of primate displays this kind of response when excited or stressed.

[Hoekler73]

On 12/9/2021 at 9:28 AM, hiflier said:

It is also seems to be associated more with Genoskwa. A more aggressive, gray-haired, head-twisting, decapitation type Sasquatch species according to legend.

I hadn't previously heard that the odor was related to a specific subspecies.

 

My initial thought would be without seeing the creature it would be hard to say what type is responsible.

[Hoekler73]

On 12/9/2021 at 7:07 PM, wiiawiwb said:

Two years ago, on a mountain-ridge trail, a sasquatching friend and I encountered a very strong odor one associates with bigfoot. We stopped and looked around but didn't see anything. It's an area he and I've talked about staying overnight as it has a pond nearby.  It's the only time I've ever run into that type of odor before.

I've had several interactions over the last 35 years including a sighting, but I've never experienced the odor many witnesses speak of... at least not  in a situation where there was any indication they were nearby. One must wonder what triggers that response however it originates.

Edited December 11, 2021 by Hoekler73

[Hoekler73]

On 12/9/2021 at 9:29 PM, CelticKevin said:

I've always thought that the scent was more related to how possibly "stressed" or "excited" the BF is. If they are just ambling along and are aware you are around and they have good cover, they may not stink. But if you drop in on them when they aren't aware of your approach or are fishing and hunting in their food areas...well, they may get upset and the smell comes out as a natural warning like a snake rattle. Be  fairly easy way for them to mark territory as well.

That is a solid hypothesis, and I've always thought that could be why the smell isn't described in every encounter. We know some primates have a similar response... even humans have a tendency to sweat when nervous.

On 12/10/2021 at 2:35 AM, norseman said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/weird-science/planet-stinky-apes-gorillas-use-b-o-weapon-n152391

 

In Gorillas it can be turned on and off.

 

 

Interesting... I wasn't aware that it was a voluntary response. Thank you for posting the article!

[Darkwing]

The MABRC is looking at the viability of Bigfoot using scents for the markers that they may be making in the woods, this is basically what most every mammal out there does, marking their territory with scent, so why not Bigfoot doing it to mark their markers, making it easier for them to locate these markers in heavy brush, at night time and more.  The technology exists to measure scents, it's just beyond reasonable cost to procure it.  

[Catmandoo]

The technology exists in affordable scenarios. I used to be around portable gas analyzer's every day at work. One has the test instrument, trained technician and calibration gases. Walking around with the air pump going continuously would be difficult.

I personally use Catmandoo Pale Ale to mark my area. I drink a lot of coffee. Nothing grows where Catmandoo goes.

Anecdotal guesses are that the scent glands are in the arm pits and it is a fear response that is carried by air currents, not dispersed in urine. I have been hit with the scent several times. Their normal scent for males and females would be left with their tracks.  Their feet leave scent all of the time. Factor in weather and heat.

There is an affordable and cost effective approach. It is called DOG ( dawg ). Highly sensitive sniffer, almost autonomous, all terrain 4 paw drive, and will alert humans to danger. 

 

I understand the bleeding edge technology that is on your wish list. However, one must consider that the smart Sasquatch will observe you with high tech gear and lead you in circles or off a cliff. Go with a smart dog. Can you borrow a cadaver dog?

Edited June 17 by Catmandoo
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[Backdoc]

Does Bigfoot smell?

 

 

Roger claimed to smell of Patty in the PGF encounter.   He said it smelled like a wet dog who had rolled around in something.  I can relate to that.  Assuming the PGF is a real event, shouldn't this point to a possible way to help track Bigfoot?   Even without all this tech to sniff and smell or even without tracking dogs, I would think the average hunter should be able to smell something extending the reach of any trace of bigfoot.  After all, this is what Roger claimed.   Who knows what kind of range bigfoot's smell should have.  For instance, Roger and Bob never claimed they smelled bigfoot 1 mile away or even 50 yards away and "The smell just kept getting stronger and stronger".  That never happened.  They seemed to smell Patty suddenly just before they came around the bend in the creek by the "crow's nest of the overturned tree".  In multiple telling of the encounter Gimlin doesn't say the smell greatly preceded the PGF encounter.   He never said, "We smelled something weird, and we just followed it for 10 minutes until we saw Patty by the creek".   Based on this encounter it must be assumed any smell or stink of bigfoot must be in a small range/area. 

 

 

 

I may not see my neighbor way down the street yards away.  Yet, if he was cooking on the grill, I might immediately smell his presence through his cooking.   I have to think it could be the same way with bigfoot's personal smell (even though bigfoot doesn't cook).   The only Q is the range as bigfoot's odor. 

 

 

 

 

 

  In about every case we should smell him before we see him IF odor is a typical characteristic.   After all, I have to think Bigfoot doesn't smell all that good to us.   Maybe it's some kind of mating seasonal thing or maybe it just the fact bigfoot doesn't live in a 5 Star hotel or go to the beauty parlor.    

 

 

Whatever we come up with, Bigfoot's assumed smell should give us a better reach to see one or capture on in some form.    

 

 

[Catmandoo]

Predators that hunt 'point blank' do not give up their location. The scent that makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up is not a constant release from Sasquatch. The human sense of smell is not that great. Many odors exist below out threshold of detection. Ask your wife. Women have a different sense of smell than men.