See-Te-Cah NC Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) I've read some very good responses on this topic, as well as some very entertaining ones (to say the least). Wine, roses and romance... Hmmm, interesting. When you throw in the possibility that some BF may see us as potential mates I'm almost afraid to go into the woods. The visual of an intoxicted, love-lorn Sasquatch batting it's eyes at me is just more than I want to consider. How do they see us? I guess its hard to know. We, as humans, tend to lend human attributes and value(s) to animals (such as pets), possessions (especially when we're young) and even other humans, who sometimes act with less than what we consider acceptable behaviors. I think someone mentioned in an earlier post that some people think with their hearts. These people are the most optimistic and usually the most caring among us. However, what most of us (yes, I'm including myself) fail to understand is that we sometimes attempt to push our expectations, beliefs and values onto others. Almost all of us feel strongly enough to think and presume that our values and beliefs are what everyone else should think and believe. Examples of such would be religion(s), global warming, environmental concerns, taxes... The list could be very extensive considering the number of kind-hearted people that feel very strongly about what's important to them. I've said all of that to say this - I feel that we, as humans, sometimes attempt to ascribe human attributes to Sasquatch when such attributes arent warrented. They appear to be human-like, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're humans. As simple and elementary as this may sound, I think that we humans should step back and realize that we are much more intelligent, adaptable and capable than Sasquatch probably is. If the Theory of Evolution is true, then we are at the top, although I realize that we don't always do what's best for others. I hate to say all of this, but I believe that it's important for us to know what we think of ourselves and what is logical for us to expect a creature such as Sasquatch to think about us. Sorry, mods... Preface over and now back on topic. I believe that Sasquatch could be another hominid that is very similar to us in many ways. I don't at all believe them to be stupid or inferior to us. I don't get to determine those things. I look at it like this: We are certainly more intelligent than BF, although when it comes to habitation of the wild they are a genius and we are simpletons by comparison. But, as I said earlier, BF is not human. I believe it is, by the very virtue of it's wild existence, an animal. As such, I believe that it would see us in the following manner: - As a threat. Most animals know that we're dangerous to them. - As a food source (a possible prey item). Although there is nothing in modern BF reporting or research to substantiate this view, there are many American-Indian accounts of "giants" and Sasquatch raiding camps and running off with young children and women. I myself believe this to be unlikely, but it has to at least be considered as a possibility, particularly if a BF was to become despeate and hungry. - As a potential mate. As bad as I hate to come back to this (sorry, Jodie), there are American-Indian accounts of women being taken. Eaten or for mating, there are nonetheless accounts that at least harbor the possibility. - As god-like. I know that this may seem a bit over the top, but consider this: You see a human that brings down a bear with a boom stick. Heck, he doesn't even have to chase it down! Humans can make darkness disappear with their light sources. They can make fire from nothing. They arrive in "chariots" when they enter your domain. Humans have the ability to change their environment as well as yours. Humans can construct a permanent "cave" anywhere the choose, complete with lights and it's own environment. Humans can grow and raise food, as not to be completely dependant on just what's available in the wild. I could go on, but you get the point. - As an intruder. Most complex, predatory mammals are terriitorial, especially when dealing with a similar adversary. We may be seen as a competitor for existing food sources such as game, berries, plants such as mushrooms and nuts. - A curiosity. There is a reason they venture into our territory when food doesn't appear to be the issue. They, like us, appear to be curious, if for no other reason than to make sure we aren't a threat to them or their food supplies. Pumas, bears and other wildlife exhibit curiosity. I presume that BF is no different in this regard. Sometimes a highly intelligent mammal is just nosey! - As entertainment. I suppose BF gets rather bored with its existence sometimes. It must be nice to be able to observe something different for a change. I realize that BF may indeed possess a form of human-like intelligence. I don't mean to make it sound like it's just another animal, but we just don't know enough about their family structure, social habits, intelligence or mental abilities to attribute humanistic behaviors to them. I know they're intelligent, I'm just uncertain to what degree. And that, my fellow BF believers, is the reason we want to find out the truth about them, isn't it? Edited August 29, 2011 by See-Te-Cah NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 They call us the bare beach beings or peltless plains people. They are the furry forest folk. Me trying to be funny. They know we leave poisoned food for animals to eat They rarely eat any food I leave them. Not normal animal behavior. This dawned on me. and are malevolent, small, cleverish, kind of ugly, and dangerous. This follows from leaving coyote and wolf bait all over which killed many kinds of animals. And we think those who look familiar, like family, look nice, those who look way different seem not attractive. It's human nature--and hominid nature, maybe. They must watch their step some places, to avoid our steel traps. There are many accounts of bf being injured or killed by traps and poisoned bait. They rarely eat food that seems intentionally left. Sometimes young and foolish ones will eat some. I read that Teddy Roosevelt tale of BF attacking the trappers and I read somewhere else about them being injured by traps, which is only logical, and must have been awful. I put that together. I read alot, don't recall where I read that last bit. I think they tell stories. Just a guess. THey have language, must have something to say, eh? They don't understand why we scream and run away when we see them because we don't need to fear them when we have such cunning and lethal tools. They think maybe we found the tools because we could not be smart enough to make such things. Partly reversal of roles. I don't get why they book when they see us when they are so much bigger and stronger. Just reversed it. 2d part, such a common attitude among people--humans couldn't have built the pyramids, must have been aliens, Indians didn't build the (name a monument) because they didn't know how....pshaw. I imagine they think we are dumb because we can't see them when they are right there. They must. How could we make guns and planes when we can't see normal stuff. We must be morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 They know we enjoy the beauty of nature and have speech, so they think we are probably people, like they are. I read a sighting about some bfs who seemed to be admiring a sunset. I thought how human of them, just reversed it. They probably see us gawking at waterfalls and rainbows, etc. And I am sure they noticed a resemblance between our kinds. They do enjoy the shelter of buildings, corn and other crops, and like clothes but can never find much to fit well. Clothes are a status symbol if they can be had. Hats, too. THey want sunglasses. A found pair is a wonderful thing. They like tarps and use them to roof shelters in the woods. They wish tarps were less conspicuous and are glad when they find one that isn't blue. Found lengths of plywood, pallets, etc. they find useful. Gallon jugs are handy, as well. Jewelry is nice if you can get some big enough to wear. We string cables all over, which are fun to swing on. . This part I know for true, except the milk jug, I read about that. I am reluctant to share pictures, and there are three reasons. 1) I have terrible trouble uploading stuff and where I can get them on line, the quality suffers. Takes more time and patience than I have. I now delete them when I need more room. 2) the negative nasty feedback. On bfro the mods PM me SHUT UP. Nice. I wonder if they use their site to intentionally mislead the public while milking the public for any information they can use themselves. Some of the same people are here and some here would string you along, encourage you to share, and then flay you publicly for what you think. I pass. 3) It's overload for most. The cognitive dissonance is just too much . It takes a crateload of struggle and thought and fretting to accept that bf exist and to live with it. When someone says, hey look, a bf wearing somebody's raybans and a baseball cap, their little pea brains can't deal with it. And I get that. It IS hard. They wonder how we manage to pass the winter in such warm rooms without being overcome by the heat. They debate among themselves why we sit and stare at flickering lights in our homes. They think we may be paranormal because we are said to fly, create fire and light, and get in and out of metal objects that may be alive without being digested. They marvel we leave the innards of deer and other game, taking the lesser bits. They know we don't understand the world the same way we do. We cut down the trees--all of them--which they know to be foolish Speculation. Partly from reports. BF don't eat the meat as often, which we now prefer, so just guessing. Some reversal....Some folks think they are paranormal, they may think we are.... . They disdain our adult noisiness but enjoy watching loud little humans play. They love their own children very well and it's their instinct to be kind to all children. They are appalled at how humans raise their children. Some humans are tolerable, but most are awful. It's quiet in the woods or the wilds. They seem to dislike loud rock music from reports. In pics I see them always with their children. They seem very good and affectionate parents. I read a bfro report of a hunter in a stand having a smaller one traisping by him, then a big one caught up with it and seemed to scold the smaller one. They seem to teach their children. And the kids don't squall and run off and misbehave like human kids often do these days. THere is also the report of a trucker stopping for a bf youngster in the road, and the parents using calm persuasion to get him off the highway while the trucker waited. THe mom went to the truck window and touched his beard as if to say thank you for not running over jr. Very tenderhearted. They love their own children very well and it's their instinct to be kind to all children. They are appalled at how humans raise their children. Some humans are tolerable, but most are awful And I read a report in which a child was treated unkindly by a stepmother. BF later trashed mom's room, pooping on her bed. Message clear. They think it's funny to scare some or surprise the tolerable ones. They throw rocks, bellow, and no doubt can scare you if they want, and do sometimes. It has to be funny. I know they were laughing when that one said "Hello" to me. Geeeze. I was sure surprised, alright. They know we can't see them well, if at all. They feel nervous when we are around because they never know when a human will attack with a weapon that can kill, even though we probably cannot spot them. All young are taught to avoid us. I get a vibe that we make them nervous. THere is a tension. Less tension, tho, if I bring my spawn. sorry it's so long a post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedRatSnake Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 - As god-like. I know that this may seem a bit over the top, but consider this: You see a human that brings down a bear with a boom stick. Heck, he doesn't even have to chase it down! Humans can make darkness disappear with their light sources. They can make fire from nothing. They arrive in "chariots" when they enter your domain. Humans have the ability to change their environment as well as yours. Humans can construct a permanent "cave" anywhere the choose, complete with lights and it's own environment. Humans can grow and raise food, as not to be completely dependant on just what's available in the wild. I could go on, but you get the point. Hi I will agree with ya that's way over the top ~ I'll go out on a really big limb and say there is No way any animal can reason that way ~ Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 I think Se Te Cah has some good points. Very hard to know whether or how much we anthropomorphize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See-Te-Cah NC Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) Hi I will agree with ya that's way over the top ~ I'll go out on a really big limb and say there is No way any animal can reason that way ~ Tim "God-like" was a poor choice of words. Maybe I should have used a term like "awe-struck." My bad. I am not sure if they can reason that way myself, although they do appear to have a capacity to learn by observation. Perhaps they could be intelligent enough to compare themselves to us. Only time will tell. Edited August 29, 2011 by See-Te-Cah NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedRatSnake Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Agreed, Tim. That was a poor choice of words. Maybe I should have used a term like "awe-struck." My bad. Hi Still implies they have more smarts then they do but it's cool if you want too go that way ~ Tim ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See-Te-Cah NC Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Hi Still implies they have more smarts then they do but it's cool if you want too go that way ~ Tim ~ LOL! You caught my post before I revised it. I inadvertantly potsted it before I was ready.Sorry about that. I can see you're a quick one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedRatSnake Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 LOL! You caught my post before I revised it. I inadvertantly potsted it before I was ready.Sorry about that. I can see you're a quick one! Like a snake ~ lmao Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedRatSnake Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 I think Se Te Cah has some good points. Very hard to know whether or how much we anthropomorphize. Hi That's one thing i think we see too much on this subject (anthropomorphize ) one day i feel we are going to see a post that the BigFoot have got onto the internet and are spreading viruses as too hide there true nature, Hey ! ~ i love this subject but it has to be put into fact, there has never been one single shred of credible universal accepted scientific evidence that Mr BF is even out there Tim ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Bigfoots are afraid of humans. Even though they are much larger and taller than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDL Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Bottom line: They're big and hungry. We have food. Everything else falls between those two boundary conditions. The relationship between our two species goes back much farther than our ability to drive them off with anything more than sticks, fire, and large numbers. As we've become more technologically advanced, their behaviors have adapted. They're nocturnal, more stealthy, grab a little here for a day or two, then move on to the next homestead on the circuit. They don't always take a pet or livestock - they'll often take the deer and other animals attracted to the things we plant. And when they do take a pet ot livestock, or some of the things we plant, who can tell that it wasn't a common predator or a foraging deer? We only really notice when they take a lot of something important to us, such as when that irresistable peach tree has finally ripened and something eats every doggone peach right off of the tree the night before we were going to pick them. "Martha, remember the year when something only ate all of the peaches on the top half of that tree and left the pits laying on the ground around it? Darndest thing." Beyond that, are they interested in what we do? Seems so. They want to know where we put the food. Sure, there are other common denominators between our species that generate interest, but they're secondary interests. At the end of the day..., at the beginning of the night..., they're big and hungry..., and we have food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wudewasa Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) Interesting responses. Not sure if you folks have seen this, but I find it to be humorous. http://bfro.net/green_men.asp For those of you on these forums who have done this sort of field research, is this perspective remotely accurate, if even credible? Edited August 29, 2011 by wudewasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest para ape Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 The beings that are behind bigfoot enjoy manifesting themselves as red eyed monsters to scare,harass,and mystify human beings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Not sure if you folks have seen this, but I find it to be humorous. http://bfro.net/green_men.asp For those of you on these forums who have done this sort of field research, is this perspective remotely accurate, if even credible? To me, this analogy makes sense, although it isn't something that can be proven ( so what's new ? ).. but only related too. It won't hurt anyone starting nocturnal investigations, to read this.. and keep it in the back of their mind, for consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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