gigantor Posted December 31, 2022 Admin Share Posted December 31, 2022 I have an idea. Lets conduct an experiment to see if we can reproduce the effects with infrasound. @Catmandoo and I will scrounge infrasound generating equipment. Maybe @hiflier can write the National Guard and convince them to let use their crowd control equipment for this experiment. @MIB, we'll start with a low dose and work our way up... let us know when the symptoms approximate the actual event (or not) I know @BlackRockBigfoot wants to know how it feels, I'm sure he would volunteer! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catmandoo Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 6 hours ago, TGB said: It is also widely excepted that infrared is in their spectrum of visibility does this add to it? No. There isn't any infrared light at night. Animals have evolved to use starlight and wander around very easily in pitch black scenarios. Thanks G. The whole-body fundamental resonant frequency is about 5Hz. The resonant frequency of the eyeball is 18--800Hz. To figure out equipment, I will need to find a range of frequencies and air pressure waves to work with. I have to re-watch "Blazing Saddles", the campfire scene. Was that vegetarian or original recipe? Inquiring minds need to know. Back to the thread title. Glowing eyes is something else. Other colors have been reported. We are guessing at this time about their ability to project and control light from their eyes. I have never been zapped. I feel left out. My opinion on the responses to zapping is amino acid imbalance. People have a variety of responses to visual stimuli like sight of needles, sight of blood, heights, round shapes walking towards us, round shapes walking away from us and more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison5716 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 7 hours ago, BlackRockBigfoot said: You were hit with something. How do you know that it was infrasound? Were you able to detect and record sound waves below 20Hz at the same time that you experienced those symptoms? Or, did you interpret it as infrasound because that is an oft repeated Bigfoot trope? I hope that doesn’t come across poorly. Legit question. Fair enough. What I experienced was exactly what people have described and attributed to infrasound. Terror, nausea, panic, a feeling like I might puke. I had no idea what was happening at the time. (And what was happening at that time, was that I was trading whistles with some two things in the woods at nearly midnight and was suddenly overcome with terror, so much so that I groveled on the floor of my minivan in tears in a fetal position. The sensation turned off like a light and I recovered immediately and opened my van door and continued on). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison5716 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 4 hours ago, BlackRockBigfoot said: My hypothesis is that these physical effects are being caused by something other than infrasound. Judging from what I know you've been experiencing lately, I sincerely hope never to have a feeling of being "zapped" again!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkEyes Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 8 hours ago, ShadowBorn said: What would have been the outcome if you would have walked towards the eye shine? did they say anything about that? I have blue eye shine that was caught on a trail cam. It looks like the creature is illuminating on their own. Strange since it is a dark blue glow with pupils. Can I explain it, no! But I am of a type that if it can be created in a lab. Then it can happen in nature. So is this not how science should work. How else did we come up with our night vision equipment. It did not just happen by accident. So here we have these infra-red lights that work with these devices so that we can see better in the dark. So, for all of us we are all just dealing with speculation. This is where I am at. Speculating about everything there is about these creatures. Until we can actually dissect one of them, we will never fully know how their eye's function. Who knows may the DoD or DARPA have killed one of these creatures way back then and figured them out already. But who knows, right! Now as a Mod I just ask that you refrain on the foul language being written. There are other ways to express what you are trying to convey. Thank you. I think it was just a cautionary warning so we don’t get startled if it turns out to be a Sasquatch doing its eye glow thing and us thinking it’s a member of our group. The area that my wife and the other members of the group seen the red eye glow was the same area that someone in our group had seen a blueish/green eye glow come from. After hearing about what he saw, we made trek up the hill to investigate and that’s when the red eye glow was spotted. Was it the same Sasquatch? I don’t know. As we were leaving the area from where the red eye glow was seen, I could hear LOUD foot falls following us down the trail. It basically escorted us out of the area. It was huge sounding, and 100% bipedal. Sorry about the foul language. I’ll keep it rated G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbone Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 On Eye-glow, I have seen white or blue a couple of times and occasionally flashes of red, with no light source that I was aware of. Personally, I cannot verify that it was sasquatch eyes, but in one of the incidents, my son did to a certain extent. He was looking at the light through binoculars, and reported that there were two, with heads and shoulders watching us, with eyes glowing enough to light each other up when they looked at each other. I have several other first hand accounts of eye glow, not reflection. On being zapped... I had one experience where the guy standing next to me was locked down. He reported that he could not move from where he stood. I was close enough to put my hand on his back. I felt and heard absolutely nothing. I think that some people are more sensitive to it than others, which might explain how I felt nothing. My audio recorder was going, and had no indication of very low frequency audio. I tend to think (from this one experience) that it's emf and not infrasound. I cannot even start to explain how or why this could be the case while we are out squatching in the woods. Others may experience something different. I am certainly not saying that infrasound not something that might be used by sasquatch. I am only talking about what I witnessed. Watch the Tik Tok video to see how low emf frequencies can effect us, and can be generated without electrical equipment. The guy doing the lecture in the video is named Robert Beck. (or maybe Becker - based on google searches) I plan to investigate his work a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIB Posted December 31, 2022 Moderator Share Posted December 31, 2022 19 hours ago, BlackRockBigfoot said: And I apologize if you took my comments as an insult. I have always had a great deal of respect for your thoughts that you have shared on the forum. If I gave insult, that was not my intention. No, you did not do bad. Apology should be mine. I was being a bit preemptively defensive perhaps. I still slip back to those BFF 1.0 days when I was on briefly (different username) .. this was almost the anti-bigfoot forum where the scoftics ran amok. What we need, I think, is some sort of recorder that will pick up sound in the infrasound range. It isn't very useful to the general consumer so we're paying for scientific instruments, not consumer grade electronics as we can do with normal audio recorders. SWWASAS and I discussed identifying infrasound as "warbles" in audible sound of otherwise constant pitch. Waves are additive. Though we can't, for instance, pick up a 5Hz signal, we can pick up a 200 Hz signal, and we might be able to pick up 5Hz oscillations of unknown source in what should be that steady 200 Hz signal. Just a .. notion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthemandmv Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Is the red eye glow so often reported anything like what's seen with this unusual chimpanzee housed in a Yaounde , Cameroon zoo ? This image shows up in search results for the storied '' koolakamba '' ( said to be either a gorilla-chimpanzee hybrid or , more likely , a localized population that evolved superficially gorilla-like traits not unlike the Bondo Mystyery Ape / Bili Chimp population ... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRockBigfoot Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, MIB said: No, you did not do bad. Apology should be mine. I was being a bit preemptively defensive perhaps. I still slip back to those BFF 1.0 days when I was on briefly (different username) .. this was almost the anti-bigfoot forum where the scoftics ran amok. What we need, I think, is some sort of recorder that will pick up sound in the infrasound range. It isn't very useful to the general consumer so we're paying for scientific instruments, not consumer grade electronics as we can do with normal audio recorders. SWWASAS and I discussed identifying infrasound as "warbles" in audible sound of otherwise constant pitch. Waves are additive. Though we can't, for instance, pick up a 5Hz signal, we can pick up a 200 Hz signal, and we might be able to pick up 5Hz oscillations of unknown source in what should be that steady 200 Hz signal. Just a .. notion. Modified by the factory for use in the field. Measures sound under 20Hz. The standard version is used for elephant research, monitoring infrasonic emissions from wind turbines, and by astronomers. I needed one that could be a bit more durable and by used on the move. The original needed to be hooked up to a PC in order to display its readings as well as for power. Honestly, I got it to test out the infrasound theory. My hypothesis is that the “zapped” symptoms are more likely caused by a strong em field... if not ionizing radiation. A friend of mine suffered some pretty severe long term health issues and the person that he was with during his encounter never seemed to recover and died a relatively short time afterwards. Add on the equipment drains and malfunctions…. And infrasound seems less and less likely. I have been on a deep dive into infrasound over the past year or so. There are a lot of misconceptions out there. It sounds crazy, so I haven’t really discussed it on here. But, it is what it is. These sorts of devices are used to monitor elephants use of infrasound, so if something is out there using it to effect people or communicate, then I will be able to pick it up and possibly even triangulate in on it. Might not yield anything, but there are enough people out there banging on trees and howling at the sky. I want to try some new approaches. Edited January 1, 2023 by BlackRockBigfoot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIB Posted January 1, 2023 Moderator Share Posted January 1, 2023 ^^^^ I think I have to agree with you regarding "zapped". Never had it happen, only had it described. What has been described to me, called "zapped", does not fit what I experienced. It's subjective rather than objective .. people describe things in terms familiar to them whether they are misleading or not. I dug pretty hard trying to get past the inconsistent use of labels to get to the core of what people were describing. I think EMF is a closer fit to what some experienced. A seemingly large portion of people who report what I call zapped (again, different than what I experienced) seem to have long term medical issues including cancer. What I experienced first hand .. I'll stick with infrasound for now. This other stuff .. I don't think so. When you "get inside of it", it's fundamentally different. The gear you're talking about for detecting infrasound .. I'm interested in learning more. How it works, how much support equipment it takes in the field, power consumption .. the sort of things that would tell me how practical it would be for doing some investigation in my favorite research area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRockBigfoot Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, MIB said: ^^^^ I think I have to agree with you regarding "zapped". Never had it happen, only had it described. What has been described to me, called "zapped", does not fit what I experienced. It's subjective rather than objective .. people describe things in terms familiar to them whether they are misleading or not. I dug pretty hard trying to get past the inconsistent use of labels to get to the core of what people were describing. I think EMF is a closer fit to what some experienced. A seemingly large portion of people who report what I call zapped (again, different than what I experienced) seem to have long term medical issues including cancer. What I experienced first hand .. I'll stick with infrasound for now. This other stuff .. I don't think so. When you "get inside of it", it's fundamentally different. The gear you're talking about for detecting infrasound .. I'm interested in learning more. How it works, how much support equipment it takes in the field, power consumption .. the sort of things that would tell me how practical it would be for doing some investigation in my favorite research area. I am in the process of taking it through the paces right now. It can operate without being hooked up to a computer. The led readouts will give me a measurement of the sound pressure of anything below 20Hz. Hooked up to a computer it will give me more accurate data, but obviously that is more difficult to do while on the move on foot. The more that I have learned about infrasound… if something is out there using it on people, then it has the ability to manipulate low frequency sound in a manner that should be impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiiawiwb Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 On 12/30/2022 at 5:39 PM, Madison5716 said: I know someone who said that they saw eye glow in pitch darkness. I can imagine it's something that would be perplexing and maybe even unsettling as most of us are only used to seeing eye shine when using a flashlight or being around light. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Explorer Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 10 hours ago, BlackRockBigfoot said: Modified by the factory for use in the field. Measures sound under 20Hz. The standard version is used for elephant research, monitoring infrasonic emissions from wind turbines, and by astronomers. I needed one that could be a bit more durable and by used on the move. The original needed to be hooked up to a PC in order to display its readings as well as for power. @BlackRockBigfoot Thanks for sharing your experimentation and use of this instrument. I understand that your desire for portability and not carrying a laptop led you to this instrument instead of the INFRA20. I was more interested in a unit that allows data-logging so that (after a multi-day trip of monitoring an area with several instruments) I could correlate the data collected with any other sensors (video, audio, etc.). Nonetheless, your point is well taken about infrasound being an assumption or a guess about the attributes from this unknown phenomena. 10 hours ago, BlackRockBigfoot said: Honestly, I got it to test out the infrasound theory. My hypothesis is that the “zapped” symptoms are more likely caused by a strong em field... if not ionizing radiation. A friend of mine suffered some pretty severe long term health issues and the person that he was with during his encounter never seemed to recover and died a relatively short time afterwards. Can you share more background about what these friends experienced? Did they have a close encounter with a BF, orb, UFO, or other? I read in the new Skinwalker Ranch book, of a few cases where people who had close encounter with UFOs/orbs ended up with some type of ionizing radiation injury. However, I was not aware of bigfoot encounters leading to that type of injury. 10 hours ago, BlackRockBigfoot said: Add on the equipment drains and malfunctions…. And infrasound seems less and less likely. I have been on a deep dive into infrasound over the past year or so. There are a lot of misconceptions out there. It sounds crazy, so I haven’t really discussed it on here. But, it is what it is. These sorts of devices are used to monitor elephants use of infrasound, so if something is out there using it to effect people or communicate, then I will be able to pick it up and possibly even triangulate in on it. Might not yield anything, but there are enough people out there banging on trees and howling at the sky. I want to try some new approaches. Please share any insights or lessons learned on this unit after you are done with your testing and experimentation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWind Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 12/31/2022 at 6:06 AM, Redbone said: The guy doing the lecture in the video is named Robert Beck. (or maybe Becker - based on google searches) I plan to investigate his work a little bit. Pretty certain this is the same Bob Beck, if you wanted to dive deeper. Interesting stuff. https://www.bobbeck.com/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbone Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, NorthWind said: Pretty certain this is the same Bob Beck, if you wanted to dive deeper. Interesting stuff. https://www.bobbeck.com/ Thanks! That looks like the guy. I bookmarked that page and will explore it when I get the chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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