southernyahoo Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I have no reason to doubt the General's truthfulness. Most I have spoken with feel that he seems to be an honest person. I do know people who have seen the sample first hand - some of whom looked at it under a microscope, and are very familiar with primate hair morphology. They are in a position to compare it with 'strongly credentialled' sasquatch hair from other sources. Their observations were as I stated. They do see similarities between this hair and other known mammals. DNA research on their sample has been hampered due to contamination. Only Ketchum has had clean samples. We certainly do not know everything about Sasquatch, and there's nothing saying that we know every creature out there. All I can say is that most aspects of this sample do not conform to what we expect from primate hair, and other "accepted" samples of Sasquatch hair. "It's not conforming to established expectations and precedents", is about all that can be said about this. It's too bad that this sample was not taken directly from the body, then there would be fewer question marks. PS - interesting that y'all have assumed I'm a guy! Ginger3, If the sample you are talking about has a sizable piece of flesh, couldn't an internal biopsy be taken and tested with low risk of any contamination? Wouldn't contamination show up as multiple profiles? One of the profiles would have to be the donor of the flesh right? Or is it assumed there is multiple contaminators with no donor profile present? If there is no Nonhuman DNA there, how do you explain that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 PS - interesting that y'all have assumed I'm a guy! Well, now we know you're a Southerner (if not by location, then at least at heart). Clues so far: Ginger indicates red hair. Hints at being female. Y'alling leads to possible Southern heritage. I'm going to guess you're Wilma from the Flinstones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incorrigible1 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Ginger or Mary-Anne? It's one of life's paradoxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted September 28, 2011 BFF Patron Share Posted September 28, 2011 I have no reason to doubt the General's truthfulness. Most I have spoken with feel that he seems to be an honest person. I do know people who have seen the sample first hand - some of whom looked at it under a microscope, and are very familiar with primate hair morphology. They are in a position to compare it with 'strongly credentialled' sasquatch hair from other sources. Their observations were as I stated. They do see similarities between this hair and other known mammals. DNA research on their sample has been hampered due to contamination. Only Ketchum has had clean samples. We certainly do not know everything about Sasquatch, and there's nothing saying that we know every creature out there. All I can say is that most aspects of this sample do not conform to what we expect from primate hair, and other "accepted" samples of Sasquatch hair. "It's not conforming to established expectations and precedents", is about all that can be said about this. It's too bad that this sample was not taken directly from the body, then there would be fewer question marks. PS - interesting that y'all have assumed I'm a guy! So are you speaking as a scientist in wildlife/biological sciences ginger3 or as a well-informed and well-connected lay person interested in the subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernyahoo Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 There is strong tapering of the hair whereas primate hair is usually bluntly worn, vs tapered. (This is another characteristic that was not mentioned in this particular interview.) Ginger3, could you clarify about this strong tapering of the hairs? My arm hairs have nice tapered distal ends and is similar to the tapered ends of the sample I have in the study. How strong does the taper have to be , to be outside what is expected for primates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ginger3 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I won't be answering a whole bunch of questions, for various reasons. I also don't want any of this to be about me - it's about the topic. I am a "well-informed and well connected lay person." Regarding the bluntness, vs the tapering - having never examined "verifiable" (as much as that is possible)'squatch hair myself, I am confined to making comments based only on information from the likes of Dr. Fahrenbach and other well-informed Scientists, and can't tell you where to draw a line between primates and other mammals, based on the degree of tapering. The contamination of the sample held by a second party ... I will choose not to comment on that one. I don't want to prejudice any efforts. There are a fair number of other people out there who are aware of this and can comment if they choose to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest slimwitless Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 How big is the sample held by the second party? Is there enough for repeated testing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantor Posted October 1, 2011 Admin Share Posted October 1, 2011 The backtracking has begun... I expect "leaks" to tamper down expectations before the final let-down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernyahoo Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Backtracking? where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Well around where I come from "Ginger" or "Blue" is a common Nickname given to redheads, so no gender bias is given to the name Ginger. In fact a popular cartoon strip is of Ginger Meggs link who is a stereotype of Australian boys since 1921. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest slimwitless Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 The sound of crickets is deafening. My guess is Ginger is in hot water with the Professor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HairyGreek Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 The backtracking has begun... I expect "leaks" to tamper down expectations before the final let-down. Are you and TimB brothers? The same person? I mean...wow on the conspiracy stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Are you and TimB brothers? The same person? I mean...wow on the conspiracy stories. If only I could be more like you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Totha6fbzJ4 Tim B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Are you and TimB brothers? The same person? I mean...wow on the conspiracy stories. If only I could be more like you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Totha6fbzJ4 Tim B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tyler H Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Regarding the undercoat/no undercoat issue: I was out squatching overnight in the mountains the other night, and man, it got COLD. I think it was around minus 10 celsius. I am aware of this criteria postulated by Dr Fahrenbach. I can't say that I disagree, as the only precedents we tend to have in humans and great apes, would seem to support his thoughts on this. But the apes we tend to compare with either live in warmer climes (chimps and Gorillas), or wear clothes (us). I can't help but wonder whether Biggie might not have some undercoat - particularly at certain times of year - it certainly would be advantageous in cold weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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