Guest Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I've worn night vision while accidentally walking in front of a game cam. In at least the units we use in the TBRC, they don't emit IR until they take a picture and by that time it's too late. By the time you see it (if you can see it), you're already busted. And yeah, IR flashes when wearing night vision are REALLY bright. I thought I was being abducted for a second or two... So this means it would be possible to capture a BF photo, as long as he/she doesn't destroy whatever it was that scared it half to death by flashing a bright light, especially at night. I'm still laughing about you thinking that you were being "beamed" up! That is understandable under the circumstances. Should this beaming up really occur, please let us know how it works out for you...Be sure to take pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TooRisky Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I've worn night vision while accidentally walking in front of a game cam. In at least the units we use in the TBRC, they don't emit IR until they take a picture and by that time it's too late. By the time you see it (if you can see it), you're already busted. And yeah, IR flashes when wearing night vision are REALLY bright. I thought I was being abducted for a second or two... I too have seen this via accident and experimenting with IR... I have come to my conclusion that BF can and does see into the IR range... I think the problem lies in the waiting period where the BF is observing his/her territory they start seeing the trigger of the flash as a huge white blast of light going off at night... They go investigate in high stealth mode and witness the location of the flash which probable hurts their eyes just like a flash at night for humans... They then avoid the area and no pictures... Now with that said there are always exceptions to the rule, the Jacobs photo or OP photo are examples... Now this is where the pictures get so tore up by die hard skeptics nothing can be determined or even theorized without huge arguments... I wish all good luck in their endeavors, and hope you too can be the exception to the rule... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) IC1, do you have any good trail cam tips? Edited November 2, 2011 by Kings Canyon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 It seems to me that a lot of times in reports sasquatch are seen NOT on gametrails and such, so it almost makes me wonder if setting up cams along gametrails is a bad way to go about it. With their size and reported physical abilities it seems like they would not need to rely on trails made by other animals or humans, but at least in the case of trails made by prey animals have people tried setting up cams focused away from the trail? -KW, just speculating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Should this beaming up really occur, please let us know how it works out for you...Be sure to take pictures Assuming they let me keep my memories, I'll be sure to tell you all about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I'd get 'em up high and string em on wires or call them black bear bait stations instead of game cam bird houses, They might work well in North Dakota though, send a prototype up to Norseman in the Bakken and see how they do. Bigtex has patented it: http://bigfootforums.com/index.php?/topic/9171-new-camera-for-me/page__view__findpost__p__106843 I would purchase a couple just in case as long as they were not too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incorrigible1 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 IC1, do you have any good trail cam tips? I do not, aside from the experience I've gained in my whitetail deer pursuits. I hope to snap a mountain lion sometime, but as for bipedal, hairy hominids, there are precious few reports from my Great Plains Middle West location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 What I hope to do when the Reconyx arrives is to set it up INSIDE the cabin up north, on time lapse. There is a power pole near the stump where we had treats taken. But it is likely to be seen, even up high. Cant believe we would be watched every second while we are there. Will let you know how it goes. Another thing is I want to leave camera in the cabin after we leave, for 3 months or so. If I could program the hi end Reconyx to shoot only at night, every few seconds, to see what goes bump... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThatWildMan Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Hubby and I will take pictures of each other at times. It's more of a demonstration to them that it does not hurt us so it won't hurt them. I have no idea if that is how they understand it but a few years ago we did the usual. I took a pic of hubby with both sides of the road in the photo and then a minute later he took one of me. Essentially I stood in the same spot and we were laughing and playing on the road. I downloaded them and in each of the pics way back on the side of the road was a "something" that didn't look at all like a dog, or cow, or anything familiar except that it did remind me of a monkey on all fours. It was watching us and that is very obvious. When I block us out of the pics I will try to post them. It's so cool!!!! Ahhh post them! Sounds interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 What I hope to do when the Reconyx arrives is to set it up INSIDE the cabin up north, on time lapse. There is a power pole near the stump where we had treats taken. But it is likely to be seen, even up high. Cant believe we would be watched every second while we are there. Will let you know how it goes. Another thing is I want to leave camera in the cabin after we leave, for 3 months or so. If I could program the hi end Reconyx to shoot only at night, every few seconds, to see what goes bump... I don't think that they perceive time as we do..They see the changes in nature with the seasons, and cope well with that. Otherwise, Little is still known about their living habits inside the woods and the shelters they build. I'm curious if it's the females with young who build those shelters. Perhaps we'll know that answer some day. Assuming they let me keep my memories, I'll be sure to tell you all about it. You are too cute, and fun to boot..Let us know how the memories are holding up. If they took them away, you wouldn't know it, would you? One day you would not show up anymore..Yikes, Keep notes to refresh yourself just in case BF do have some mind whammy of some sort.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incorrigible1 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Take pictures in daytime. Natural sunlight. They are not ONLY out at night. Forget IR, you don't need it. Let me ask again: A question: do others corroborate your findings when shown your photographs? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 IC1: Do you have any ideas how to get trail cams to be more useful? (pointed question designed to avoid derailing thread with personal and off topic matter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I too have seen this via accident and experimenting with IR... I have come to my conclusion that BF can and does see into the IR range... I think the problem lies in the waiting period where the BF is observing his/her territory they start seeing the trigger of the flash as a huge white blast of light going off at night... They go investigate in high stealth mode and witness the location of the flash which probable hurts their eyes just like a flash at night for humans... They then avoid the area and no pictures... Now with that said there are always exceptions to the rule, the Jacobs photo or OP photo are examples... Now this is where the pictures get so tore up by die hard skeptics nothing can be determined or even theorized without huge arguments... I wish all good luck in their endeavors, and hope you too can be the exception to the rule... Good points, TooRisky. IIRC, The Jacob's photo was of a young BF, correct, barely out of childhood? This may be how they learn to avoid cameras because they make a strange noise and flash a bright light at you. I'd avoid them also. Yikes, That must be scary for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incorrigible1 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 All I can surmise is if others saw the various BF KC does in his photographs, he would probably have been more forthcoming with an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDL Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Don't forget to take into account their innate intelligence. I attended a BF conference in Northeast Ohio back in '99 (Coleman spoke). There I met a couple of guys from Maryland who had put out video cameras (clearly more obvious than trailcams). They caught sound and footage of "something" hairy investigating the camera up close from behind and to the sides of the lens, but mostly outside of its field of view. The sounds included bipedal steps, heavy breathing, and a snort or two. The video caught just the edge of a hairy arm as the subject shook rain off of itself. Whatever they recorded had enough understanding to stay away from the lens' viewing angle. I think everyone is right that they can see the active infrared illuminators on cameras, and that they can hear them whine or smell the materials in use. I also think it is likely that they are so aware of their environment that they pick out new objects very easily and that there's a better than good chance that they will observe you placing the camera. I like the idea of a trip-plate activated camera. I also like the idea of placing an array of cameras with less obvious cameras designed to catch subject avoiding obvious cameras. Maybe it is also possible that the cameras would be less obvious mingled with other human "clutter". Under a bridge, or under an overpass, or in some other location where the camera itself is just another human-made object. It might be fun to put one in an ice chest, or something else they might be tempted to open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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