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This is one of the puzzling issues Paulides has illuminated over the years regarding his Missing 411 reports. An area will be methodically grid-seached several times yet the missing person will ultimately be found in that grid. I was a SAR member for years and when you grid-search an area several times, you can take it to the bank there is nothing there. How the missing person ended up in that location no one knows which makes those cases particularly perplexing.

There is another aspect to Paulides. We have to remember that he claims .. and his bigfoot books Tribal Bigfoot and Hoopa Project support this .. that he is the one who brought Melba Ketchum into the bigfoot world. He continues to support the authenticity of her "study" yet it is a clear hoax from purchasing the journal which still has never published a second paper to providing DNA strings which do not add up to what she claims they add up to to any number of shady shenanigans intended to suppress evidence of her misdoing. Until he separates himself from that quackery, I don't trust his judgement or his claims. If he is even half as smart as he claims to be, he KNOWS exactly what he's embracing. We are rightly judged by the company we choose to keep. I feel the same about Scott Carpenter and Steve Isdahl, the difference is, even beyond those two, Paulides should know better. MIB

Bigfoot isn't in a zoo for the same reason Amelia Erhart's plane isn't in a museum. It's out there, but no one has found it definitively yet. As far as a zoo goes, I used to want Bigfoot in a zoo. Then, as I got older, I had second thoughts. This further struck home with me when watching this Bigfoot researcher from Bigfoots Reflection: He said essentially: if we caught bigfoot what do we do with him? I go to the zoo and watch apes and they seem...sad. I happen to agree with this now. I selfishly wanted Bigfoot in a zoo when I was younger. Now, it would be enough to have proof such a rare thing exists and let it be free.

Love the opposable thumbs joke! As for the rest? I think our perception is skewed a bit. I think there is a reason we are one of the last bipedal primates standing. And there is a reason our ancestors were lucky to see 40 years of age. Earth wasn’t a Utopia. It was a single stage winner takes all fight to the death stadium. And we are a product of the ultimate survivors, but old habits die hard. I think just going to water every morning was risking your own life back when. And in some places on Earth? It still is. How many modern humans would have the courage to even leave the cave? Let alone spread out over an entire planet. It’s an amazing story. Our violence today is more organized and mostly contained within our own species. It’s something mostly within our control to solve. Back then? Violence was mostly predation from other species including those in our own genus. Or mishaps or child birth. Most of it must have seemed incredibly random and well outside of our grasp to control. And the survival of our species wasn’t even on the radar. We were just another version of ape men from dozens of species that had came and gone over and over again.

^ yeah, I get it. Lions don't have opposable thumbs either (which are great for making save the whale stickers). The great kindness, compassion and empathy to which you refer seems to be diminishing. Humans are wasting a veritable Utopia so, putting Bigfoot in a zoo seems to be the perfectly wrong thing to do.

I think there is a duality of Homo Sapiens. We have great skill and cunning in being ruthless warriors. But we also have great kindness, compassion and empathy. But I have a sneaking suspicion that this will be may be true of any sentient species. Albeit I don’t see a species of sentient bipedal lions having “save the whale” stickers on their personal transportation vehicles. Each species will add its own twist to intelligence I suppose?

Qualification for basic human rights is on the decline these days so; I would say no, they would not qualify, in our current 'environment'. I don't think there will ever be any Bigfoot in a zoo and that is fine by me. The world that humans have created is a horrible zoo in and of itself that I don't think will be judged favorably when our brief time on Earth is said and done..

Those are critical points. We have 2 things to go on, personal experience or prior beliefs, nothing that is going to change anyone's mind. We have a third .. public perception. People vote their emotions more than their logic; politicians who want to stay in office pay very careful attention to public perception, and scientific research FUNDING is often in the hands of those politicians. If what "they" know they're going to find .. because they have more information than we do .. does not align with voter emotion, that might be a reason to suppress evidence at least for the time being.

This makes me wonder: How human-like would bigfoot have to be to be human as you describe? How animal-like would they have to be to be considered animal like by science or the public at large? To me, if bigfoot is essentially nearly Ape-like in intelligence and so on it would be an easy to think "It's an animal" Obviously if Bigfoot could communicate or have a language and very high intellect good luck selling the idea bigfoot is an animal. I just wonder how we define the traits for an animal and define the traits as a human. What's the line? To me anything equal to or less than an ape Bigfoot is an animal. But how far beyond that takes us to a human? I don't know the answer. We do science experiments on Rats because they are a lower animal and a pest among other reasons. ----------------------------------------- "Col. Hans Landa: Has a rat ever done anything to you to create this animosity you feel towards them?" ---------------------------------------------- We don't tend feel comfortable doing experiments on Chimps or Gorillas. When we do I assume it is more restrictive for apes as they are a higher animal. I think of the Helsinki Guidelines on human experimentation. We have a higher order of requirements to experiment on people/ humans scientifically. Rats don't get that same consideration. What makes an ape-like HUMAN? What makes an APE (or Bigfoot for that matter) NON-HUMAN? When does a ManApe stop becoming an Ape and start becoming a man?

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I voted for other: Study Sasquatch https://www.youtube.com/@studysasquatch/videos I know the guys presenting and can attest that they are serious, professional, and doing some of the best research in the field today. Not as entertaining as the stories told in Flash of Beauty, but it is all about field research - trying to get data, and showing methods and results.

If these upright bipedal human like beings some folks call Bigfoot, were merely an unclassified forest ape, they would totally be in a zoological environment. I don't believe they are. Why no trail cam footage? Simple. They can see in the IR spectrum of light. Again, just my belief. After reading and listening to people's independent reports and experiences, I don't need proof. Eye witness testimony is good enough for a court of law ... and me too.

This, which is exactly what Patterson and Gimlin did. Their chosen area of operations had both recent reports and a solid 12 year history of reports. I still think that the Freeman Map is a pretty good guide on a sasquatch hunt. It features general pathways used and seasonal timelines.

Interesting. So far as the cases I've been able to dig into personally, the further I dig the more off-the-mark he is. I would like to believe what he has to say but it simply does not hold up to scrutiny. Most of the reports I've dug into have been in the Crater Lake cluster along with a couple in Idaho. I'll try to give him the benefit of the doubt in other places.

Yosemite Search and Rescue has issued a breakdown and description of all of its responses for the year 2024. Granted, they are not a law enforcement agency but at least we get a better idea of what is going on in the park and why. For the record, I do not buy any of Paulides' "Yosemite Cluster" hypothesis at all. Yosemite Search and Rescue 2024 rescue, death numbers released