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I think the best circumstantial evidence was obtained by the Olympic Project.

502 was definitely a bad gateway. Glad to see it was not our pathway

And a HUGE shoutout to Gig for all he does to keep this place up and running! IT is not a easy thing to keep going at times.

Just wondering if its still the seething hotbed of opinions and contention it was always rumored to be.....also I'm still curious about the purple glow.........lol

I think you have to ask some followup questions. 1) WHEN did the encounter occur, because I think media attention has changed the answer over time, at least in terms of averages. 2) WHO are you? Because I think different demographics have different propensities to report. I take a LOT of local reports via word of mouth that are never formally submitted .. truly, I've heard many accounts even from BFRO and Olympic Project members around the campfire that I do not think are part of any public database. I think we have to be very careful, in the context of your question, about assuming any uniformity of answer. Then there's the question of what constitutes a report? Formal submission? Sharing with other bigfooters informally? Sharing with family .. who may not be proponents? Those will vary for each of us depending on something which may vary from trust of those we're sharing with to deliberately, abrasively jamming it down their throats and daring them to voice doubt.

I was visiting my cousin (who grew up and currently lives on the northern coast of Oregon) 2 years ago and she revealed to me that she had a sighting in her backyard in the 80's. She has known of my interest in squatching for the last 15 years, but never said a thing. She finally opened up and told everyone after 40 years.

^^^ Absolutely. That's one reason why old reports may be less reliable. Numerous (probably most) encounter reports give only the year, then at best the month and date. However, the inability to remember a date doesn't necessarily taint a witness's report. I can recount in painful detail a jump I made somewhere between '85 and '86 (maybe '87) where the 'chute wrapped around my leg. The fact that I don't remember the date without pulling out my (very short) jump log book doesn't make my recollection of the events any less credible.

The distinction I am trying to make? Is that a Bear is not self aware. It doesn’t recognize itself in a mirror, it attacks the mirror. It doesn’t understand that it’s leaving tracks that others can follow either. It itself tracks like a bloodhound, on scent. It has poor eyesight, but most importantly it’s not self aware. Knuckle walking great apes are self aware. They may react like a Bear at first. But they quickly figure out they are seeing their own reflection. Jeff Meldrum talks about making Chimp casts and observing the chimps be self aware of their own footprints in the sand. So if knuckle walking great apes are self aware? Surely a bipedal Sasquatch is more self aware than they are. This is the cognition part that most animals lack. So back to tracks. If you live in the woods and are hunting and foraging in the woods? You’re gonna leave sign. It’s inescapable. The key difference is having the cognitive ability to understand this. And if you don’t want to be found? Then you’re going to mitigate the risk as much as feesably possible. But you cannot erase it entirely. But if you understand this concept you can also use it as a WEAPON against the trackers. You could leave a short track way in the opposite direction of your families intended travel. You could stage a track in an area where you can easily observe your trackers from concealment. A false trail buys you time while the tracker has to sort it out. There are lots of counter tactics in the game of tracker and being tracked. This leaves the territory of a hunter tracking a deer through the woods. This is military and law enforcement territory. Where a tracked human could be leading you into an ambush. Now you’re asking yourself things like? Why is this track left in such an obvious way? Is it a misdirection? Are we being observed? Is it a stall for time? You may be a city slicker but if you’re honestly interested in this subject? There are lots of good books to read and you can practice some of it in your own backyard or a park. I observed a trackway in snow with my father. I have zero doubt that a Sasquatch knows it’s leaving tracks. IT KNOWS. So the question then becomes did it care? Or could it not be helped? If it doesn’t care then it probably has an ulterior motive. Which should send a cold shiver up your spine. But in our case hunting for a Xmas tree in an area we normally would not be in that time of year? And in deep snow? It probably just couldn’t be helped. In that case it’s probably betting on the fact that a human on snowshoes just cannot keep up in deep snow in mountainous terrain. And it is impossible to erase a snow trackway anyhow. So make haste. I have mulled this concept over in my head many times. Even when I am out in the woods looking for tracks. A quarry that understands that you could be tracking it? Is a paradigm shift for most hunters, hikers and lay people. Tracks will never be the smoking gun. Dental resin casts are great conversation pieces but nothing more. But tracks will lead you to the creature…. That’s a certainty. IF we are good enough to follow them and the weather holds.🤷‍♂️ The ultimate game of hide and seek.

https://www.science.org/content/article/mysterious-orange-lipped-monkey-discovered-deep-congo-rainforest-new-species I'm surprised that this doesn't have a thread yet. It seems tangentially relevant. This line I found interesting: "The Likweli monkey was first caught on camera in 2008, when a research expedition snapped a blurry photo of a black-pelted primate they didn’t recognize." That's right folks, all started with a blobmonkey!

For those who doubt the usefulness of DNA in identifying Bigfoot as a new species or a Homo sapiens hybrid, please read this paper on the Likweli monkey, which has extensive DNA results to demonstrate its place in monkey phylogeny as a distinct species. A similar paper on the Lesula monkey, another recent discovery, can be found in PLOS ONE.

^^^ This is a point Anna Nikaris has made about Bigfoot. She discovered some similar primate in Asia herself a few years ago. Never know what is out there.

For the moment, my little chunk o' heaven is calm. The East Evans Creek Fire (15,800 acres?) seems under control. The state fire marshal team tasked with structure protection left a week ago. The local IMT under state forestry has completed their 2 week rotation and has been replaced by a joint team from California and Australia. North-central and Eastern Oregon are a different situation. Something over 1.5 million acres have burned / are burning, several fires well beyond 100K acres, and today they're under a "PDS" red flag warning, not a red flag warning. I'd never heard the term. PDS is particularly dangerous situation. Low humidity, winds to 50 mph over active fires, and not enough resources to address new starts. Despite all of the conspiracy nonsense, these are lightning fires other than East Evans Creek which was the result of a car hitting a power pole and dropping live lines into dry brush.

How dare you question my opinion. When I said "thoughts?", I wasn't actually asking and I surely didn't expect anyone to provide anything worthwhile. Don't you know who I am? I'm like Ralphy in A Christmas Story after turning in his theme and in his mind getting an A+++++, with his classmates hoisting him upon their shoulders, and you are the teacher bringing me back to reality. Oh the gall of some people. Seriously though. Thanks for that. I did considered the car aspect and this was found several miles from the nearest road, so ruled that out. Stepping in holes? Maybe, maybe one leg, maybe and that is even far fetched in my mind. Let's examine this post mortem. What is going to scavenge in Minnesota? Coyotes, wolves, bears, and cougars and none of those would create torque resulting in spiral fractures. I think the key to this discussion really is the evidence of the spiral fractures themselves. That in my mind is quite telling. All good conversations. As a side note, later that same night, I watched a 9 foot squatch through a thermal walk through the forest, check out our camp as a guy was playing his native flute, and then move away for a total of 15 minutes (story for another thread). I'm pretty sure that is swaying my views on these breaks, but nevertheless I think they are good evidence.

A friend works on / volunteers on a ranch along the next river corridor to the west. They have found several deer skeletons, meat removed, just tendons, bones, and hide, with the rear leg broken and the neck snapped inside of an open-air barn. This is consistent with observations from other places. Thoughts? Well, you did ask. I think it is useless so far as providing evidence for existence. There are far too many alternate explanations for it to be convincing to anyone. Deer break their legs either stepping in holes, being hit by cars, and so on. As tendons dry, they can bend the neck or other joints in ways consistent with deliberate manipulation. What my friend found, the photos you shared, are interesting information for people who've already decided for themselves that bigfoot is, or is most probably, real, but so far as moving anyone from non-believer to believer .. nah, not going to move that needle in the slightest. I wish to thank you for sharing, don't want you to regret that based on my seemingly negative comments. I find it interesting .. but I'm not someone who needs convincing. MIB

Happy Anniv. Mr and Mrs. Huntster! I hope you are both feeling much better. Heat index in TN, MS and AR has been 110-127 sometimes lately and IT is nasty. (Climate change denialists look away, there is nothing to see here.) But, yes, Happy Birthday, USA! Our leaders are doing a lot of stupid things right now, but hopefully common sense will eventually prevail. I have hope for the future because we have smart and wonderful kids who deserve much, much better and they will change things. The recent BFF outage was unprecedented; thank-you Gigantor and whoever else helped to get it running again. Semper Fidelis!

We have a pathway and a gateway? Next thing you know we'll get all high-falutin' and have whatever high-falutin' websites have. Maybe a portal?

Had me worried, that was a long one! I don't post much but still visit often...

I recently read this thread in full. Super fascinating.

Holy kamoley! It's good to be back! Great to see old friends, again.

Wow! This is great! I was afraid we were done for good.

Congrats on making it to 50, Mr & Mrs Huntster. Us long haulers seem to be a rarity these days, 62 years for my sweetie and I.

I've got a flu, and I just got Mrs. Huntster out of the hospital on Thursday. It's cloudy/rainy, but I like that better than heat. Our 50th wedding anniversary is at the end of the month. No plans. Life dictates our actions day by day, but I'm loving our Alaskan summer!

^^^ Date of occurrence, to the degree of detail actually reported. Not all websites post date of reporting. A lot of reports from the 50s, 60s, and 70s are reported years or decades after the claimed encounter. For the 2000s, 36% were reported within 30 days of the claimed encounter. After 30 days, but within one year, 18%; after one year, 41%. 4% of the reports didn't provide enough information to draw a conclusion. Overall for 1340 reports, the numbers are 32% (w/in 30 days); 16% (> 30 days to 1 year); 46% (> 1 year); 4% (unknown).

Tar pit is still there. I am in favor of just ending the Premium membership. We can ask for donations once a year to keep the forum going. And I am willing to pick up the slack if it’s short. And Gigantor has graciously allowed us his server to use. But it’s open to discussion for cadre.

I agree with you on this. To me Bigfoot is near extinction which explains a lot.

https://youtu.be/b2rKogbd7mI?is=hN0WusbckkQOPozR

In. Terms of objective cognition, the mirror test presents a basic dividing line, finding the spot on your forehead, fine. But realizing you're the one leaving those prints, not to mention even noticing them is a different (higher) level of cognitive awareness. Then there's the awareness you're being tracked/hunted, which is something all sorts of animals display. They know when something's after them if not simply taken by surprise in a direct assault. I would doubt, however, that most realize their tracks contribute to their trail. But those that do make that connection are acting on a higher level. And to actively hide their tracks higher still. However, its akin to a quantum leap of intelligence/cognition to use ones tracks to manipulate your persuer's perception by means of strategic misdirection. That's some crafty forest ninja level of avoidance behavior. That's a being capable of envisioning its hunters mindset and setting "traps" based on what it perceives as your expectational/interpretational set. And THAT is pretty dang clever! Almost frighteningly so.....

Fauna bone pile as a result of Glacial Lake Outburst Flood washing animals downstream until the wall of water dissipates and the dead animals 'pile up'. Muck piles have yielded bones of ancient animals to miners for many years. Many bones were washed out to sea in the Arctic and Bering Sea. Glacial Lake Outburst Floods were massive and repetitive.

There have been several sightings of Bigfoot in the past few years near the Missouri River at La Benite Park in Sugar Creek, at the conservation area in Sugar Creek, and in Independence, in that same general area. The Missouri River is 3.66 miles from the recent sighting, and .48 miles from the railroad line, which passes right by the Missouri River. Several people (including me) have heard things that could have been Bigfoot (heavy footsteps on the gravel late at night, loud grunts, and on two occasions, rails being banged against each other, which I doubt a human could do) along the railroad cut that goes directly behind my house, which is 2 miles from the most recent location. The cuts are heavily overgrown with bushes and trees. I need to write an article about these reports.

Paranthropus

Sure seems to doesnt it?

I was under the impression that the book was closed on this terrible footage long ago. What I mean is mostly likely human, but not discernible because of the awful quality. Apparent removal of the head of the costume doesn't help.

Xspider1 its going to have to be a pretty extreme and extensive mutation for an individual to be deemed a unique species. The mutations would have have to be extensive enough to disguise the markers used to differentiate the original species, and I have hard time envisioning that occurring in anything but like bacteria, or fruit flies at best with their four chromasomes...maybe.... I'd think most mutations that would cause drastic morphological changes will prove lethal from the get go or shortly there after, unless, of course its the result of direct genetic manipulation recombining the genes of disparate species in a plotted out effort, but even then the original species involved could be identified. Were it by just a single inheritable trait that sasquatch is set apart from modern humans then it might well be attributed to an aberrant mutation, but there's clearly more involved in the differentiation between us.

Yes. But no elk hoof tracks in the cast area. So did it levitate out of its bed? The last act of a bedded elk getting up is standing on its hooves, right? Ive posted video of elk in the act of getting up before. So we should guard against blanket statements like this or the Jacobs creature was a bear because bear cubs where recently in the bait stand. My own personal experience is that I get a wide variety of species into my bait stand when i was doing it. And something with padded feet like a bear or a Bigfoot is harder to track.

Hello. Name is mark. I'm from Indiana. Haven't had any experiences but became interested in this subject after watching this old timer from my hometown talk about his involvement and interest in Bigfoot. His name is Don Worley. Anyways.. happy to be here. Look forward to chatting with everyone.

Hey Backdoc ... good questions. The answer is nobody really knows. I'll risk speculating though. Back in August of 2011 when my then-new buddy Bill and I did our first backpacking trip we had some activity. From laying on my back, my sense was the big guy coming toward / into camp was traveling at least 10-12 mph and was doing it walking, not running. I say that based on the slow cadence of the steps and the immense amount of ground he was covering. So .. guessing .. if they were pushed, I would think they could cover upwards of 100 miles in a day. That's not a long term sustainable speed because it doesn't leave time to gather calories but in a burst, at need, I think it is possible. Depending on what they are eating and how long they have to slow down to gather it, they might well maintain our walking speed while traveling and foraging. I don't think they move that fast most of the time, not on average. In that same area where we had the camp visits, activity often starts between August 15th and 20th and persists into early September, then tapers off. I've had sparse "action" 'til around the 20th-25th of September some years. The next canyon over, maybe 6 miles away, I've had at least hints of potential bigfoot activity past the middle of October. I don't think they maintain a set speed. I think they go faster when they're not finding concentrations of resources and they slow down when the grub is good and the hiding is better. Unfortunately that doesn't give the simple and constant numerical values for speed / distance your question seems to ask. From mid October into Christmas or beyond they sorta disappear. If it is the same "guys" they pop up in two places. One is about 40 miles across fairly open country (with a huge lake in the middle) so I assume they skirt it on one side or the other. Reports there go into spring then stop. The other stays along the foot of the mountains .. a smattering of reports through winter .. and seem to pass back over the crest in a lower area and return to this closer side, then swing north a little. In neither case are they making big miles, probably averaging less than one mile per day, though I doubt that's at a steady pace, again, could well be driven by ease of gathering calories. Bill followed up on one report seemingly from a member of the group that goes through that saddle and comes back to this side of the mountains. That was right around Christmas and was in the saddle. That saddle is, for whatever it is worth, probably 5-6 miles only from where one of those fire crews saw the bigfoots following them to and from the fire line in the dark. That is near enough valley bottom that perhaps they are not part of that group / gathering either. I could be over-connecting dots that don't belong together. Itsa risk! MIB

Here in BC, most of the Fraser Canyon and the Cariboo Plateau is blazing right now, with at least 4 towns evacuated, and several more under threat. One of the fires is now over 90,000 hectares!

Hello all, I have been interested in bigfoot since 2012, when I remote viewed one in Missouri, then to my shock, he appeared in my driveway in person not long after. I've had multiple experiences over the past several years in Missouri and Illinois. I own the Unexplained Network, which has multiple shows about unexplained phenomena and of course, bigfoot. I cover the subject on my own podcast occassionally. I have a keen interest in the subject, and that is why I'm hositng two conferences this year, which I hope will continue into the future. I love hearing about other people's encounters and learning from professional invsetigators.I own the Unexplained Network, which has multiple shows about unexplained phenomena and, of course, Bigfoot.

Greetings! I'm Klaus. Never had an actual sighting, but heard quite a lot of strangeness in the woods I grew up. Always around fall.

The ranch is FULL of blackberries. We never had blackberries when we moved there from the coast in 75! My parents would freak out if they were still alive!

It's that time again, many types of fruit are in season. I was reminded by a familiar social media post from near here. Paraphrasing, the whole crop/tree's worth gone right before humans would have gotten to it. Other folks nearby and farther away, are commenting that they have similar issues. The familiar MO of entire crops missing with no damage, no debris, or other indications of regular animals makes me take notice.

Thank you for your work!

Thanks and praise!

Man, that shutdown had me worried! Glad to see the site back up and running! Huge round of applause for Gigantor, please.

Hi

Glad to see you back!

Hi all I'm Shake, 35, and used to be a member of this forum a long time ago. My interested in sasquatch must have started almost 20 years ago, back when I was still a teenager living in Germany. I moved to Los Angeles eight years ago. I used to read the reports on BFRO for hours, absolutely riveted by the fact that hundreds of eyewitnesses were clearly describing the same mammal. How could they ALL be lying or hallucinating? I think what convinced me early on that sasquatches must be real is this BFRO page: https://www.bfro.net/news/SnowTracks/WI-tab.asp I was also fascinated with the Kentucky project, back before it was renamed the Erickson project (which happened around 17 years ago). There is a lengthy blogpost by DB Donlon about it that I'd love to share here later. My favourite recent evidence is the absolutely awesome Ouachita Project Monograph by the NAWAC: https://www.woodape.org/index.php/opmonograph/ I've also loved John Bindernagel's The Discovery of the Sasquatch. I'm dying to read his earlier book North America's Great Ape, but it doesn't seem to be available for purchase for under 100 $ anywhere... I'm excited to rejoin the fold of the one and only Bigfoot Forums! :)

I suggest that the plural of "bigfoot" is "bigfoot."