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This thought about tracks and encountering other critters .. I still think the most likely to be dangerous is other humans. There are a lot of good people out there. It only takes one problem person, though sometimes those travel in packs. Watch out around campgrounds and trailheads, they present a predatory person with an ideal opportunity .. people with their guard down, possibly few witnesses, and a ready way to escape / fade into the crowd (traffic). Maintain situational awareness .. ear buds out, cell phones pocketed / put away, hands free, and keys handy. You want to be able to walk to your car, open the door, throw in your pack, climb in, and drive away with no searching for keys etc while you are at your maximum exposure to risk. Probably all will be cool, but it is better to be over prepared than under prepared.

Out again today up the Pack River. Cut deer and moose tracks. Hiked 2 miles into a clear cut. Did a few call sets. Nothing. The clouds rolled in early after noon. Pea soup. On the way out but still on National Forest I come around the corner and what appears to be a Wolf standing on the road. I grab the binos and look at it and it finally turns and it has a harness on.🙄 I never saw the owner. The chick in Montana that shows up to the bar with a skinned Husky was playing in my head.🤣 I got back on the main FS road and continued up river until I hit a mudslide that wiped the road out. A 4 wheeler with tracks had cut a trail out and had made it through. I had to turn around. But it did remind me to stop at the DMV in Idaho and buy my 2026 sticker for my Yamaha Grizzly on tracks. It’s getting to the point that I need to be taking it to reach the good spots. My birthday gift of the Ray Ban smart glasses is working out well. I can just take a picture with a button on the frame instead of digging for my cell phone. And I think the picture quality looks good. What do you guys think?

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Yes, at least at times. I'm not too concerned when I'm in my "research area" or in other parts of this general area. I know I'm watched, followed, occasionally on the losing end of what seem to be practical jokes / pranks. I think if I were in danger there I'd have turned up missing long ago. They're only there when safe food is plentiful. Other places I'd be more calculatingly cautious at least until I learned the vibe / ground rules of the place. I don't care for finding cougar or bear tracks in my tracks when I return. That puts my hackles up much more than BF does. And now we have wolves in increasing number / increasing distribution, some that have learned to overcome / ignore human hazing. Bigfoot is the least of those worries.

I want to thank Forums management for the opportunity to expand the historical archives. I've had a Newspapers.com subscription for awhile but was using it for other reasons. I really didn't think of its use for Bigfoot-related research until I was fact-checking a book of historical sightings and I discovered more newspaper articles than I could possibly make use of. It would have been a shame just to stuff that research into a closet and force others to re-invent the wheel.

Lightning Crick to Trestle crick Cabinet Mountains Idaho 12 degrees and about 1 foot of snow up top. Bullwinkle would not yield the road for awhile.

Here is a video chronicling our investigation into an area that we recently located using report data and terrain analysis. There is some interesting stuff happening up there and we will be going back and monitoring the lower elevation edges throughout the winter.

He has bitten the Melba Ketchum lure, hook line and sinker. Thats where the “fallen angel” stuff comes from. I think you all know what I think of Ketchums work. Your mileage may vary.

Wolf hunt today in north Idaho. Not much of a winter thus far. We have actually lost snow pack with the Atmospheric River that has flooded much of the PacNW. Saw one Moose today. Saw a-lot of Moose tracks. I went up a dead end road and on the way out discovered I had ran over a kill. Must have been covered in a thin crust of snow. I am guessing its a yearling Moose calf? Maybe a Deer or even a Elk calf. Something had been crunching on the bones and after inspection I found a short black hair on one of the bones. So I kept it and its in the freezer. I am not saying its anything Bigfoot related. But Moose calves, Elk and Deer tend to be a brown color. I thought it was worthy of collecting. If Bigfoot eats ungulates? Surely some evidence will be found on a kill site. If anyone wants the sample? Let me know. In other news I ate it on ice today. The Winchester model 70 hit the ground. Gonna have to check zero. My elbows feel like hamburger. This big thaw has made everything in the mountains a polished sheet of ice. I stepped off the bank after glassing a clear cut and thought the road was snowy. About a 1/4 inch was and underneath was polished glass. Must have looked like a baby Moose on roller skates. Ouch.

Yah my cousins are flooding in Sedro Wooley! Blue sky is nice! Been a good visit with my daughters family.

Envious. What is that blue patch above the mountain? Other than a shower a week ago that barely got the asphalt wet, we haven't seen rain in a long time, but we also have not seen the sun. Wake up to drippy fog, kinda burns off to thick white haze, returns to drippy fog, and gets dark. It gets old. Apparently we've got a pretty serious storm coming in Monday/Tuesday. In a way, I'm looking forward to the change, but I also remember "be careful what you wish for, you just might get it."

Nah, more like Twix...

Merry Christmas to all, and a Happy New Year! Catching up on some interesting pictures....cheers:)

Yeah, Bullwinkle can be very obstinate about his right-of-way. I encountered a very large-racked specimen in the Yahk watershed while elk hunting from my mountain bike on an abandoned logging RR. He kept plodding towards me, ignoring my hollering and whistling, until I had no choice but to turn around and ride away. Of course, moose were closed to hunting at the time.

There are reports out of "woo-land" that are impossibly large for F&B. Bone structure wouldn't support the weight. Rather than say "liars", I'm going to say "I'm not sure what they saw, even if they perceived it as bigfoot." I would say that 14 foot range is about right. A witness described one giant BF that would occasionally visit her dad's property ducking under a branch they measured at 14 feet. That doesn't mean it HAD to duck, might have cleared, might not have, but it stooped slightly when it went under. I watched her interact with a group of other bigfooters. I began thinking she was just a "groupie" wanting to fit in. After 4-5 days in the field, I came away thinking she was the only one of the bunch that was legit, the rest were slightly delusional. I'm inclined to go with her report. The first one I saw .. I don't think was 14 but I think it was some amount over 10 because BFs have legs shorter, relative to torso length, than ours, and it was crotch deep in water that hit me right at chin level .. 4.5 to 5 feet deep. The math simply requires it to be over 10 feet, possibly nearer 12. If that is the one that left the tracks I saw 2 years earlier, it leaves 24-1/2 inch tracks. When I talked to Henner Fahrenbach a few years later he said the biggest tracks in BFRO's "library" that weren't debunked were 27 inches. So .. math, not concrete evidence, but again, backing into that same answer. One of the Canadian guys, I think either Dahinden or Green, mentioned having some initial doubts about the authenticity of the Nor Cal (Bluff Creek, etc) tracks because the shape was different than what they were used to researching in Canada. Those northern tracks, they wrote, were comparitively longer and narrower, and had the slightest hint of curve .. but not an arch! .. rather than the very broad shape of the nor cal style tracks. What they describe for tracks matches what I found. I wonder if what I saw, and the tracks I saw, weren't from a long distance traveler rather than a resident. That said .. unproven. Should be considered but also should be taken with a substantial grain of salt. We are still in discovery, not in study.

Merry Christmas BFF!

Merry Christmas and happy New Year to all the BFF.

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10 votes. Not much of a sampling. What little time I have for watching videos, I go with The Facts By How To Hunt. Like the no nonsense delivery and word for word reading of other folks experiences.

Ugh! ::wiping egg off face:: His today-posted video details his latest venture, with Todd Standing and in the first five minutes espousing mind-speak, portals, and Paulides' new movie (being discussed in another active thread.) Reassessing.

Where Paulides loses me is at the idea of “fallen angels”. He doesn’t define this term, and seems to rely on the reader/listener to bring their IYKYK sensibilities to the discussion. As someone raised in the Episcopal, and later on, the Presbyterian (USA) church, I am well acquainted with the concept, but he is pretty much on the fundamentalist dog-whistle track with that. But…to attach much credibility to the whole idea requires a belief in the inerrancy of scripture, especially Old Testament writings. I don’t have too much faith in the Bible being mostly more than an assemblage of allegorical oral traditions…selectively edited by those paying for the work (Looking at you, Emperor Constantine). How the whole idea of angelic transgressors is relevant to solving the problem is left unsaid. It smacks of superstition to me, and is a typically Western solution to explain anything outside of man’s rational experience. If we are relying on Jesus to explain Bigfoot to us at the Rapture, I for one find this less than satisfying. Not wanting to move the discussion too far down this path, as faith is a very sensitive topic to delve into, but do any have opinions to help illuminate what exactly Paulides feels, and Carpenter felt, and how this is at all relevant or useful?

I have read the two missing 411 books, they are creepy and mysterious, in fact entertaining reads, and your right Paulides makes the cases more mysterious than they are... watch on youtube the Missing enigma, he is a real good researcher, he travels to the places where the missing happened and he debunked a couple of Paulides cases.

Voted for A Flash of Beauty, their work is amazing. Bigfoot Crossroads, Bigfoot Society, Wood Walkerz for interesting witness reports and general listening, others for more specific geographical or methodical interest.

I like the open mind of Dr. Anna Nikaris. She said in a speech there might be this Pendak animal out there, or Bigfoot, and so on. She discovered some new little monkey not previously known to exist. She gives an adult conversation/ presentation about the concept available on YouTube.

I mean, that’s a place you can always investigate. I kind of take that as proof they’re real and there.

Get the shotgun out!

50 degrees. Evening walk in the desert. Listening to mourning doves. Warmth feels nice.

Caught him on the 360 cam!

That article from Seattle Magazine about the man kidnapped by a Sasquatch….happened in 1961. I think these incidents must have occurred countless times and are at least partly responsible for unsolved disappearances. I’ve wondered if Sasquatch swoops from trees and scoops up hikers and hunters etc. After a close call with a mountain lion in a tree, I was very careful to check trees for lurking cats , or bears. And that’s when I discovered rock stacks in a tree and subsequent trips I observed the rock stacks changed arrangements and also rock types. It did make me uneasy and after creepy experiences, I quit going there. And one of the reasons was the realization that Sasquatch could ****** people off the ground , even though I had never heard of it, just seeing those rock stack changes prompted me to think of Sasquatches in trees … Really fascinating account of Sasquatches using fire and living in a network of caves and what seemed to be like a Sasquatch village.

Or wrapped in a sleeping bag.........

After Ostman and Ape Canyon, before PGF. A little known event in Washington. Seattle Magazine_ Our Last Monster.pdf

Nah, HOAX!! There's a secret society of hoaxers that go around and plant bigfoot tracks so that unsuspecting hikers/snowplow operators/etc. will find them. Others in their group run around in Bigfoot costumes, anytime, anywhere. Sorry. Just feeling snippy this morning and need more coffee. In fact, I felt so snippy that I forgot to hit "Submit Reply" and will have to drink twice the usual coffee tomorrow morning....

Most definitely, if not in grizzly country........but sasquatches might be "human"........... Tom lions and mature boar black bears are very definitely predators of solitary people, especially kids and small women. I don't fear wolves at all now, having numerous encounters with them at face to face range.........unless there's a pack of them. Even then, they've never snuck up on me. I seem to have the body language that works with them. I've never heard of a lion dragging somebody out of a tent at night, but I don't have to worry about them up here. That's my ultimate bear fear. I feel a lot better about it if I think I can get my hand on my sidearm. At least that's what I tell myself. Vipers are my nightmare. Bears are easy.

Here is the video of the moose. IMG_2661.mov

Pretty pictures, @norseman!

If you look at the mind experiment of how many calories a Sasquatch needs per day to survive? And then take into account that the known large omnivore (bear) in North America hibernates during winter? Then I think it stands to reason that interior Sasquatch must migrate to the coasts in order to find enough food to survive. The only other option is that they stockpile food in the summer months and hole up in winter. Maybe only taking limited treks to water or a hunting foray. If they are active during winter in snowy conditions that activity would be easily detectable. A human hunter gatherer walks 7-9 miles per day. That’s at least 12,000 steps or footprints. Times that by however many members there are in the group? It would be impossible to miss. Along with signs of stripping bark or digging roots or killing game.

This triggered a thought. We have had some discussion about "local circuits" ... not annual migration, but places where the bigfoots might cycle through an area, always moving, but coming past the same spots once a week, or every other week, etc so there is no daily concentration of activity but over a fairly short period of time, there are repetitions. This could considerably complicate understanding the report data in a particular location.

But what is a realistic definition of "the area where they are?" From some old research of mine, which I may update, the home territory for black bears ranges from 1-15 square miles (females) to 8-60 square miles (males). For grizzlies, its 50-300 square miles (females) up to 1,500 square miles (males).* Where would Bigfoot, as a species, slot in to that? Also, what would the regional variations be? Certainly in the PNW, one should expect more compact and stable home ranges. In the northeast US, one of the most "crowded" sighting areas is the corridor around Whitehall, New York.** I don't believe that all of those Bigfoot encounters are the result of Bigfoots that have a home range there. * No citations, I need to update this rudimentary effort. ** This is circa 2018 research.

I read missing 411 Western USA and Eastern USA saw some of his Missing 411 movies as well I'm starting to think he is more of a profit agent

So long as Bigfoot's needs are met, they stay in the area they are. If conditions change, they move to a place with more stable conditions which can deliver on their needs.

I think some are some aren't. In my area we see indications of both. My hunting / hiking / bigfooting buddy works some weekends on a ranch where there appears to a low level of year around activity. Likewise, where we hike, camp, fish, and where I do my main research, the activity is very very seasonal and can seemingly be followed leading up to presence there and after presence there ends. I would expect that in some areas with different conditions there would be a greater propensity towards year round occupation in some place and greater propensity towards only seasonal occupation .. ie migration. So I think you have to look at the specifics of a given location and answer for that location rather than trying to give a single answer that covers all situations, all locations. There is a hole in that as well, potentially, and that is that it is not just "my" spot that is active at that one time, there's a mountain chain over 1000 miles long and the activity peaks within a week in any given year the whole length of the dang thing so it is possible that rather than migration, what we're seeing is some quirky seasonal change of behavior. Or .. BOTH. Because, again, we do see activity to the north 4-6 weeks earlier and to the south 3-4 weeks later. It may be both migration and seasonal something peaks converging. The data is sparse and we have to be cautious about over-investing in specific interpretations which might not fit a fuller data set.

Belated Happy Thanksgiving to all. Was on KP, eating, and cleanup duty all day yesterday.

Hope you and your family had a wonderful day. I am still full.

Marc Myrsel posted a pdf in 2019. It has extra local color. https://www.sos.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-05/SL_MtDevilMyrsell-001.pdf

I should have put these 3 pics together with a better explanation.....the stick A-frame in the first pic appeared one day recently by the Spring in the 2nd pic, and the 3rd pic is a trail probably leading to one of their sleep areas, and no I don't go there and respect their privacy...this Spring is one of the few places that will still hold water, even during droughts.

Ron Morehead seems like a really nice guy. But he is not a physicist. Neither am I. But I do have a basic foundation of knowledge. Converting matter into energy. Yes. Thats true. E=mc2 We have fission. Thats a nuclear bomb. Or a nuclear power plant. Highly radioactive. Atoms are split and energy is released. We have fusion. Thats our sun. Under intense gravitational forces it combines hydrogen atoms to produce photons aka sunlight. We have never recreated it on earth. And at Cern they are accelerating matter and antimatter particles at ridiculous speeds and colliding them which releases energy and new particles. None of this is particularly healthy to biology up close and personal. But at a distance like say from the sun to the earth? Its a key element in life. In fact a flower converts photons into sugars that builds matter. It’s called photosynthesis. This is how plants grow on earth. Absolutely none of this is revolutionary. But it’s also not applicable to a biological creature cloaking itself at will. I.e. Hiroshima’s “little boy” bomb was 141 lbs of enriched uranium. An 800 lbs Sasquatch would destroy 5 large cities every time it converted itself from matter to energy. And of course vaporizing itself in the process. And irradiating a very large area as well. This idea of converting mass to energy and back to mass again sounds conspicuously like the transporter room on the Star Ship Enterprise. Its science fiction. And even then Capt Kirk needs the star ship and crew to complete the task. I have no idea where a 800 lbs Sasquatch would be hiding such advanced technology assuming that its even possible. Which by our current understanding of physics it is not. So I think this theory is dead on arrival.

No. For some people they are OBSERVATIONS. The difference is huge. MIB

Very good learning tool but I disagree with his approach toward declination. "East is least and west is best" sounds simple but it adds an element of work in the field that, in my opinion, is totally unnecessary. Moreover, if a person is trouble, because they are injured or suffering from hypothermia, and not thinking correctly, they may add the declination rather than subtract it. Now, they will be far off course and that error may needlessly cost them their life. I always draw declination lines on my map in the confort of my home and before I ever go into the woods. That way, I can take readings on the fly without ever having to orient the map. The declination lines drawn in advance cure that problem. A few other issues can rear their ugly head in the field that cause taking a reading a challenge. How do you easily orient the map so when there is a torrential downpour? When you took a reading, were you sure there wasn't metallic substance in a rock just below the surface you laid the map that could affect the magnetic needle? With my approach, I can lay the map on an electromagnet and it doesn't matter. I'm no longer using the magnetic needle to take a reading. My approach allows you to take a reading the fly, in rain or snow. It doesn't matter, it is quick, and there is no stopping to orient the map. Here is the best information I've ever found that talks about navigation skills and terrain association and it demonstrates the map-marking technique I mentioned above: https://www.adkhighpeaksfoundation.org/adkhpf/navagation.php Here are two video that show the technique of drawing magnetic north lines on a map. The bottom one discsusses declination at length if you are so inclined: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpXibF_yK2c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peu7uMp0cVU Edited because I wanted to link a 2nd video by the same individual

I am currently filming and editing some projects, I will be adding some of our catalog here for discussion in the near future.

I got out for a solo run on Sunday afternoon to the Bear Creek watershed on the east side of Harrison Lake. The weather was mild and broken clouds, until I reached the summit of the east ridge of the valley, when the wind picked up and brought in cold showers. Of course, I didn't take any pictures on the way up, so all I captured was cloudy views of the lake, 4600' below. The only signs of wildlife were some deer tracks, bear scat, a few squirrels, and 1 skunk, but it was refreshing to get out in the mountains after a few weeks in town.