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Took a trip through the woods in my Jeep from Idaho over into Washington via Skyline Drive. Beautiful country and just a 15-mile drive from my house. A bit of rain recently, so always looking for tracks. Actually bought two tubs of plaster of Paris for making casts. I've come across a couple of possible tracks in years past, but never was prepared. Now I am. Also added a fun decal to the side of my ambulance RV. And I started the conversion of my utility trailer to an "overlanding" trailer to tow behind my Jeep. It will haul an ATV along with my camping gear while providing a platform for an inflatable tent. I installed fold-up kitchen platform, fuel can, and will be adding a solar shower, water storage, gear storage box, RV lithium battery, solar panel, and inverter. It should let me go camping deep into the woods where the ambulance and Ram 2500 can't go.

For a long time, my best places to go involved a secluded pond. Wood knocks, audible movement around the pond, and red eyeshine. They work for me because people are less likely to be there especially when it is not easy to get to. I've decided to get an ultralight canoe, or more properly called a packboat. Short and light enough to be portaged. Get out on the water in the dark and silently paddle then stop, drift, and listen. Use the thermal to scan the shoreline. It enables you to get to spots on the pond quickly that would not be possible if trekked by foot. Moreover, the flashlight and noise while walking would immediately give away your position. I'll order in the next month or so but won't get it until next year. Looking forward to it.

Up by Priest lake on a tight jeep trail for part of it. Bald Mountain area. Saw deer and rubs and a owl. Tamarack is all turning yellow.

It qualifies for 'hard side camping'. And you can watch TV. A red ambulance RV must have massive room. Does your inverter allow you to operate a microwave oven? "Parking heaters" are available for diesel powered vehicles and boats. I know of 2 brands common on boats and vehicles: Espar and Webasto. Both are over $1k and permanently installed. There is a member of this forum that has a parking heater on his diesel Land Rover. Very toasty warm. Another way is the portable unit placed on the ground with gravity feed of diesel from an elevated fuel jug. Winter is here, no need to subject your dog to a cold ambulance. Norseman might have some input in the way of dealing with his big rigs.

It’s entirely possible. I know they have 86’d Viking settlement archeological sites in Canada…… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanfield_Valley https://artsfile.ca/ottawa-archaeologist-says-her-research-on-vikings-in-canada-being-disparaged/

Spent the night deep in the Idaho woods last night about 50 miles from home. This is where I found my first possible BF sign; a tree twisted and broke over 8' above the ground. This was about 10 years ago. Today... I forgot how creepy this spot is with virtually no animal activity or sound. I had a horrible time getting a fire started and ended up having to use an old Indian trick by wrapping a paper towel around a stick and dipping it into the fuel tank of my ambulance, lol. Temperature was around freezing when I went inside to watch TV. Had some odd things happen. First was hearing something hit the side of my ambulance from the direction of the twisted tree. Very light. Maybe a pine cone? No trees that it could have fallen from and nothing on the ground. Wet and soggy ground and dusty side of the ambulance. No tracks, no scuff marks, nothing. An hour later, heard what I thought was thunder outside. Looked outside and clear sky with nothing but stars. About another hour later and my dog began growling for no apparent reason. Got the shotgun with slugs out and opened the door to scan with the weapon light. Arlo declined to go outside, so I stayed in as well. No other incidents. Woke up a few hours later and it was very cold outside and inside! Packed up camp the next morning and scouted for elk for my brother on the way back to civilization. Beautiful day and saw a lot of country, but no BF sign. I walked this moist dirt road for about two miles and found hundreds of fresh deer and elk tracks, but no BF tracks.

When I worked for the Forest Service back in 1974 and 1975, I had no concept of what the agency's stance was on bigfoot. While on the job, if I had a sighting, I would have reported it to my boss who was higher up in the district office of the Rogue River National Forest of Medford, Oregon. He probably would have told me to not report it to the wildlife officer since this would put my job in jeopardy. My annual job performance review was coming so I would not have reported it to those higher up in the chain of command. Since my annual review was coming up, and if I reported the sighting to the wildlife officer, I probably would have been fired for disobeying my immediate boss. I would guess the Forest Service has not changed their stance presently, and they call bigfoot a mythical creature for a reason. This means they are not real, so they have no effect on Forest Service policy. Work someplace else if you don't understand the policy.

^ This. ^ Moreover, even within certain agencies (like the Army), few have the odds of encountering these creatures. But some do. I've used the example of Ft. Lewis, Washington. It's right on ground that is surrounded with regular sightings, is actually on ground that looks like a migration/movement area, has plenty of recorded sightings itself, and has been an Army post for over a hundred years. If sasquatches exist, and if that area is as density rich as reports indicate, and with the Army being there for a century, there are people within the Army family who know about it. I was an Army soldier (engineer), and then an Army civilian on Ft. Richardson, Alaska, for 35 years. I worked for the engineering organization that literally owned the post. We signed off buildings and lands to commanding officers of various units, but we were ultimately responsible for them (and we held the tenants responsible for proper use and damages). I was an "outside" engineer. Roads, grounds, railroads, bridges, etc. We had an environmental branch which included a Natural Resources Officer, who was responsible for wildlife. He set the hunting regs on post in cooperation with the state fish and game agency. Ft. Lewis has/had the exact same organizational structure. If sasquatches exists, they exist there at least in movement through the place leaving sign and encounters with soldiers and Range Control. Eventually, the Natural Resources Officer is going to know and share that knowledge with the Public Works Director, who will then share it with the Commanding General's Chief of Staff. Where the knowledge goes from there is certain to vary. But my experience is that's how it looks at the lower, local end. I'm also pretty well versed in what we call "unofficial lines of communication". All of us civilians, unlike both the enlisted and commissioned active duty personnel, worked there for decades. We didn't come for a three year tour, and then rotated out. We owned the place. Literally. And we worked together for decades. We were like brothers and sisters. We still are. And we talk to each other. Some word gets around. Some is hush-hush. Depends on what it is, and who you trust. On Ft. Rich, we talked openly about the wildlife. Those of us in the exterior trades and activities had regular contact with the bears, wolves, and moose. Lots of it. And we shared those experiences with others. If I saw a sasquatch, would I have talked? Yup........to a few folks. Certainly not all.

Based on my reading of hundreds if not 1000+ reports, I am a firm believer that the Federal Government as a whole fully understands BF and for reasons you can only guess feels it is best not to reveal them and even protect them where possible. For instance, what are the legal or even constitutional issues if they are some form of relic hominem? Even worse, what if they have an alien origin (which I do not believe but there are plenty of BF/UFO related reports). I have seen them and ran in to them multiple times over the last 30 years in NC and NJ (and may have a den/hunting blind build by them 100 yards from my back yard) and no longer care to get proof of their existence. I doubt I would reach for my camera or phone if one posed for me. Just leave them alone like they leave me alone when wandering through the woods.

In terms of the impact of the arrival of europeans, you can't diminish the probable damage done by the foreign antigens, which may very well have killed off the the vast majority of sasquatch, at least those within close enough proximity to the natives as they became afflicted. The Europeans practice of laying blankets infected with yellow fever and the like across trails could have transmitted these diseases to the Bigfoot just as they did to the native americans. It may have taken longer to pass between them due to their more widespread distribution. There's estimates of 90% mortality rates amongst natives (even higher in south america) if this applied to the sasquatch, perhaps their rebound was slow, then as whites killed off the majority of upper level predators, and deer populations began expanding, eventually to the point of overabundance, then the sasquatch had plenty of prey, little predator competition, and more empty land to move into, reclaiming old turf, thus expanding their numbers once again.

When I was younger, I had a dream Landscape Architect job with the Forest Service designing a large RV campground and a recreation park along the Applegate River in southern Oregon that took a year to do. I'm 79 now and want to be truthful about memories. After this was completed, my job became irritating and boring. No more parks were on the horizon, and my new job was to fool the public about logging! It was a clever plan that I've kept secret until now. My job was deception and to drive the main national forest highways and mark all the forest areas on a map that one can see from the road. I also marked forest areas behind mountains that were not seen. Can you guess where the plan for public deception is headed? The hillsides marked as unseen while driving the highway were going to be clear cut of all trees which upsets the public because Bamby the deer's forest was going to wiped out with logging and clear cutting. The refreshing forest seen from the highway were going to be preserved and all is good in nature land ................ so the public thinks. Needless to say, I became out raged, quit, and went to a different landscape architect job. My point is deception by the federal government that is also taking place with bigfoot. The forest service hires credentialed wildlife biologist and how many bigfoot reports have you read from one of these biologist? They spend hours driving remote forest roads, and hike on trails and a few of them must have seen bigfoot. Lots of people see them. I have two friends that saw one and I saw one too. See my eye witness sketch is below. Do some internet searches and find even one report by a forest service biologist that mentions or even focuses on bigfoot. One of the forest service's duties is to study and protect wildlife during logging operations. You as a taxpayer are still being kept in the dark when if comes to bigfoot? How do you feel about this dilemma? What is your opinion? Should I have quit the forest service? Are we being kept in the dark? My sighting is below.

We are in a draught and the lake's shoreline around me have receded significantly over the summer and fall. I took the opportunity to walk my dog around one when I noticed a weird looking foot print. This side of the lake is a fairly remote and hard to get to area and it was the only print I had seen. Looking closely I noticed toes which I thought was really strange as the exposed shoreline is littered with sharp rocks, protruding limbs, and all sorts of garbage tossed out by fishermen. Looking closer the front of the foot was much deeper than the heel and it had about a 6 foot stride. I followed the trail off and on for maybe a half mile when I noticed the front and heel were now evenly depressed. I concluded the person was first walking then proceeded to run for a short distance. Running on this shore with bare foot is extremely insane because of all of the debris. Then towards the end of the lake it randomly walks in to the muck for about 50 yards, circles back to relatively firm ground and proceeds in to the woods. I could not imagine going out in to the muck with shoes let alone bare feet. It rained pretty hard 4 days ago so the trail had to have been created prior to the rain. I circled the lake's north side and saw a similar trail but much washed out which must have been created before the rain. The pics are not great because of the lighting but it was pretty clear that they were not shoe prints and were made by something with a very flat foot and no visible midtarsal ridge. The prints are not large, maybe size 10-11, but the depth was significantly deeper than I could make even jumping up and down. Attached are some of the pics. What do y'all think. Also, this location is about a mile from a spot where my next door neighbor's son swore he saw a 5-6 foot bigfoot at night watching him ride his bike in their backyard last June. He only saw it for a moment when he flipped on the bikes light. I studied the location the next day and saw a couple signs of things out of place but nothing definitive other than someone/something took a lot of effort to build a hunting blind/nest 100 yards from the location and right by the lake.

I have a stainless steel woodstove installed that just needs the chimney routed through the roof. Tough to find the appropriate flashing for a 2.5" chimney on a flat roof. I have a silicone boot designed for routing a chimney through a canvas tent for the inside. Just hoping to find something more robust for the exterior surface. It's a step up from my tent and pop-up camper...

If any part of our government admitted to the existence of Sasquatch, they would ABSOLUTELY be considered an indigenous people and would likely also be considered some sort of "uncontacted tribe." Legions of groups would step forward to lobby on their behalf and instead of just a small island being off-limits to visitation (as in the case of some uncontacted tribes), gigantic tracts of lands could theoretically be closed permanently. The closure of public and private lands would be like nothing we've ever seen before. It could be an economic Armageddon.

That is what Huntster and MIB have proposed. If given some sort of indigenous rights? It might be more than “locked up”. It might not even be theirs any more. My buddy is Lake band and they won their hunting rights back in Canada. https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/apr/23/colville-tribes-member-wins-pivotal-case-as-canadi/

Buddies trail cam up at Priest lake!🫣

Nothing? There is a boat load of it. Heck they are on Eagle Cams for cripes sake! You want answers…. I understand. But just like UAPs there is a incredible amount of pushback from the deep state. And I dont see any of that changing any time soon unfortunately.

I think you're naively optimistic .. we are much more willing to be self-destructive (and pompously, righteously so) than you seem to realize. The courts do not care about the survival of the country .. at all. Where juries are in charge, where emotions drive decisions, the notion that anything can be "other than exactly as I want it" does not have a seat at the table. You have to truly believe there is a realistic risk before that sort of thinking comes into play. It won't until it is far too late to matter.

Is that a serious question? When decisions are made in courts by juries rather than being made by professional managers, a lot of really dumb things happen. We've had any number of post-fire salvage timber sales here blocked by court decisions when the environmental groups sued USFS and timber companies in federal court. Expecting anything rational once the courts are involved in emotional issues is pretty nuts once you've seen how things really happen. :( It doesn't matter anymore what you can prove or disprove, when it gets to court, all that matters is feelings, not science.

The Forest Service would not lock up their ecosystem but fanatical private groups might try.

Of course they did. Do they want packaging in English, French and Norwegian? Hell no. In reality, it is a culture clash in the way of who claims the land. That woman was fired and some of her work was disappeared.

Hello, my name is Tony and I’m from Kansas. I searched for LDR Blogs and bioacoustics and wound up here. I am an avid Sasquatch researcher and have collected audio in the field as well as casted tracks. I’m happy to be here. I don’t post much, but am very interested in reading and learning what others have to say. I am especially interested in LDR rigs

That horse has been beat 10 feet into the ground.

Thanks. I wasn't aware of that.

Bob Gymlan, Bugfoot Society and Hellbent Holler.

This interesting file about an older, earthy hound hunter and surveyor who ran across bigfoots in Northern California. He hunted with Blue Tick hounds in the remote woods of California, and he came across several Bigfoots. His dogs cornered bigfoots, and he tells what happened. He said his dogs chased a bigfoot and when he caught up with the dog and bigfoot it was too late. The bigfoot had grabbed the dog's back legs and bashed the dog into trees and killed it. He said when his dogs chased bears and cornered them the bear acted in different ways. He ran across bears and bigfoots while working as a surveyor in the deep woods of Northern California. Bing Videos

Daniel Boone did many amazing things and one of the most outstanding events that happened to him was when he encountered a Bigfoot while camped out in Kentucky with his men. This amazing event happened in the mid 1700s so those of you who have never read or come across this adventure, this short 5 minute video will help fill you in on Daniel Boone's encounter with Bigfoot. Back then they probably didn't call it Bigfoot. In different parts of the country Bigfoot has many different names that adds a little confusion with the study of this creature. Anyway, I'm sure that you will enjoy this short video that will add to your knowledge of Bigfoot. When compared to guns that we have today, how deep would the lead bullet fired from a 1750's flint lock rifle penetrate a Bigfoot's chest? If you had 1750 flintlock rifle and a Bigfoot charged you, where would you shoot the Bigfoot? Back in the mid 1700s for those of you who are gun experts, what caliber of gun did Daniel Boone probably use? Can you name at least 5 words that bigfoot has been called? https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=daniel boon battled bigfoot&view=detail&mid=E5D6728835A34F4B1BA2E5D6728835A34F4B1BA2&ajaxhist=0

Great looking country! I'll have to get busy and post some pics of my recent trip through BC, Yukon, and Northwest Territory. We saw a LOT of wildlife.

Your plan is very imaginative, and it would be a great start to put into action. The end results would be a deceased or a live sasquatch depending on the encounter situation. Using BFRO is a great idea for focusing this Squatch One Team or SOT on active bigfoot sites. SOT would need to employ a travel supervisor who would arrange private jet flights to the designated American state and secure established camping parks that would accommodate 10 dogs and a 20 person crew including a film team of 2 . One major issue would be the funding. Funding would be partially through private money and TV documentaries. Movie/TV rights would fund the project after the team supervisor contracts with a film company who would broadcast a weekly TV series.

Maybe I am a stubborn pot stirrer. But if I see one? I am putting it down. The chips can fall where they may. But truth is truth.

Third option: at the level that controls the purse strings, the gov't does not believe bigfoot exists so looking for them never gets taken seriously enough to be assigned. That doesn't require field people not to know about bigfoot. How do you truly rock the boat, not merely look stupid, unless you have proof in hand, and if you have proof in hand, can you prove you were not gathering that on work hours while neglecting your specifically assigned duties?

Everything is a psyop. It is all purposefully designed to muddy the waters to such a degree that it is impossible to know who or what to trust.

Gotta laugh, sort of like USFS as a billboard proponent and sleuth fo the "beauty strip" script. I was doing some volunteer work yesterday and many different environmental agencies were involved. I was the only nongovernmental person present. I can tell you there are some very dedicated personnel out there doing important jobs that keep their head low now. My personal perspective is that Sasquatch and UAP and NHI are Siamese partners who swim in the same pool.

I would say #1 is less likely. There isn't a ton of timber harvest of USFS land anymore, much -> most seems to come from private timber lands and BLM lands as well as state forest lands now, none of which USFS has any responsibility or authority for. I'll mix #2 and #3 together because I think #3 presents the situation with fair accuracy, moreso than #2. #4 is definitely true. Moreover, many -> most of their "biologists" are on the forestry side, not the wildlife side. Typically wildlife issues on federal lands of all sorts go to the US F&W service, not the land management agency. My expectation is if USFS were to get involved, they would quickly pass the torch to the federal wildlife agencies, not a timber / recreation agency. Oooh oooh .. that brings up another thing: USFS now spends more time / money managing recreation than they do managing timber harvest. ... and if you look at the condition of our USFS-maintained trails you'll see even that is a failure. Since you had your sighting up behind Prospect and Butte Falls, you're somewhat familiar with the area. Did you know that 2 years ago USFS only had 2 people on the High Cascades (Prospect) ranger district tasked with trail maintenance because their budget was so tight? #5 -- I don't think BF exactly puts jobs in danger, BUT I do think making a fuss about bigfoot might cause problems for someone trying for a career that goes beyond a local ranger district or forest. To move up in rank above .. I think it is GS-11 but it might be GS-9 .. you almost have to transfer to another forest. The supervisor on the "receiving" forest can accept your transfer or reject it. If you've made trouble in your current position, forced the district ranger there to deal with issues they don't want to, then likely the transfer .. as well as the promotion going with it .. are going to be denied. That doesn't mean you get fired, you just get .. stuck in place with a lot fewer upward mobility options. #6 -- I don't think the president or cabinet have a role in this. This has gone on since 1967 or before across administrations, across parties. If it were as simple as that, with this much time passing, some administration would have decided to spill the beans. #7 and #8 are both possible. So to summarize, I think USFS doesn't get to the bottom of this because it is not their job. I think it would more clearly fall on USF&W servivce on public land in general, possibly on some of the military base command (like JBLM) where appropriate. More likely than some deep conspiracy to keep us in the dark, I think the reason lies somewhere else. We, as citizens, expect our government to be subject matter experts, to manage situations, to control them, and to protect us. Facing a situation they do not have expertise, cannot manage or control, and cannot guarantee our safety, the most rational option for their employees is to pretend the situation does not exist. Until someone officially and publicly acknowledges it, someone with the authority to speak for an agency when they do so, the situation truly does not exist so far as their responsibility to handle it goes. Just my view of course.

A struggle for me is the close human association in terms of alleged DNA results. And yet the morphology and behavior are not so similar. Almost not inside the parameters of the Homo genus at all. I say almost because while Homo Erectus used fire and stone tools? We don't know often they were used. Or if groups lost the ability because of topography and resources as they moved. All great ideas to ponder.👍🏼

Denisovan

The first fossil of a chimpanzee wasn't discovered until 2005 in the Rift Valley of Africa by Nina Jabloski and Sally McBrearty. This discovery only unearthed three teeth in spite of billions of chimpanzees having lived in Africa. If we all agree there are fewer sasquatches than chimpanzees, then the odds of finding sasquatch fossilized remains are likely one in many trillion. Better time spent doing other things, mathematically speaking.

Cryptids don’t exist but they found 125,000 Gorillas……🤔 Great post! Thanks!

If I was young and loaded with money.................... that would be a great adventure. I would hire some zoologist, a camp buckaroo, a medic and go for the discovery in East Africa! I think an Australopithecus is running around in the jungle there!

So it looks like there were human living and killing Mastodons 130,000 years ago located in the California area which is astonishing.

Maybe, maybe not. This seems rooted in ape camp thinking .. rooted in a notion that sasquatch acts on instinct rather than culture or intelligence. Think about what we think we know about physical differences that lead to behaviors that avoid conflict, things like diurnal vs nocturnal, gracile vs robust, near bald vs hairy, running under hot sun across open plains vs walking nights on frozen mountains and the relative foot adaptations for each, about the need for tools and fire vs lack of those needs. Maybe that isn't limited to biology, maybe it extends to deliberate behavior selections that minimize conflict. Mind you, I can't prove it does, but I don't think we can safely assume it does not. "Religion", be it formal or be it mere human assumption of uniqueness / specialness, may tell some folks this can't be true but that's all it is .. assumption. If there is a baby in this bathwater we need to keep it all, not make random guesses and throw out parts which might indeed have the baby in them.

That hits the nail on the head. (And, thank-you for summarizing the affects that your encounters have had for you. Much appreciated.) Something funny is going on! Of that, I am 99.9% sure. There is just no way that an otherwise 'normal' biological creature of the reported sizes can exist and, remain unclassified after all these years, without something(s) 'funny' going on. This is a good thread, in my opinion. We can be civil here and honestly explore what may be the cause(s) for the lack of Scientific acceptance/classification. When I joined the BFF, it was stated that the official stance of the BBF was basically that Bigfoot are a biological animal, similar to Gorillas, Humans, etc. except in perhaps their size and elusiveness. And, as time went by, I never really understood why so many people categorically reject the idea that there may be (and most likely are) characteristics of Bigfoot that are beyond the current Scientific paradigms. In fact, if you accept that many witnesses are seeing something(s) matching the criteria, it seems undeniable that they must defy our current understandings. As a side note: I live in the middle of a big city, on a busy road. Yet, my backyard is interesting because it becomes almost rural when you step out the back door. And (not to imply too much into how this may affect this current discussion), I have seen unusual wildlife out there. One night about 15 years ago when it was just about to get fully dark, I saw the silhouette of some kind of gigantic bird fly by. We have barred owls and some hawks and a few eagles, but this thing had like a 6-7 foot wing-span and it flew right by me! I imagine that any Ornithologist would probably say 'No, you must be mistaken, there are no birds of that size anywhere around there' but, I know what I saw. Point being: no one really knows anything, until they know.

Came down Spread creek from Canuck pass. Had lunch in Yaak Montana. Drove out to Northwest peak. And then back tracked down the mountain and camping along the west fork of the Yaak river.

Canuck Pass Baby Bull Moose in camp this morning!

The threats against whistleblowers and even the outbreak of missing and assumed deceased scientists is grist for the mill about how national security will continue to be used to cover up black box programs and funds, we can only hope the gold bars at Ft Knox haven't flown the coop already. Family of potential whistle blowers are now threatened and false charges used to wreck careers so the stories about BF researchers having home invasions and computers snatched in the past is totally believable. Mr. Gold's comments on the paranormal are as normal as remote viewing now.

I voted for other: Study Sasquatch https://www.youtube.com/@studysasquatch/videos I know the guys presenting and can attest that they are serious, professional, and doing some of the best research in the field today. Not as entertaining as the stories told in Flash of Beauty, but it is all about field research - trying to get data, and showing methods and results.