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UPDATE: Rumour mill sez ....

The Discovery Channel bought the rights to everything Adrian had, including Todd Standings footage, at a tidy profit for Erickson.

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UPDATE: Rumour mill sez ....

The Discovery Channel bought the rights to everything Adrian had, including Todd Standings footage, at a tidy profit for Erickson.

and the rumour is coming from where?

Probably he just put it down because the publication of Ketchums study isn't in sight. I don't think that he will release the documentary independentely.

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Well as long as the rumor mill does not include a certain blogger, I suppose that would be well received.

Short of a publication for Ketchum, the study always pointed to a documentary be it private or studio for Erickson I suppose.

So it's another one of those parsimonious rumors I suppose.

If nothing else it suggests inertial lift between the Erickson and Ketchum camp may now be occurring, if true.

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That would actually make a ton of sense, given the Discovery Channel's success with "Finding Bigfoot." They could work Adrian's footage into that show over time, get the cast members to comment, and thus multiply the show's quality and popularity many-fold. But maybe that's how this rumor got started: the idea just SEEMS so natural and perfect that it MUST be true. Could be a classic case of too good to be true...

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Oh, I'm always around. I just thought of another element. Matt Moneymaker was on site at the very beginning of the Kentucky situation, in June of 2005--told me all about it back then, when I started going on BFRO expeditions in September '05--and is one of the few to have seen the close-up facial footage, also shot in Kentucky. So now he'd have been in a great position to lobby Discovery to acquire Adrian's clips, and it would make sense if he did so, knowing as he does how powerful and legitimate the footage is.

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I hate to say it guys, but this whole DNA/Ketchum/Erickson thing seems to be being held back by TPTB (the powers that be) IMO. There are many things to consider before coming out with such amazing results. If the DNA turns out to be human, the important/biggest religious organizations around the world will come into question. This could rock the very foundation of human evolution. If we think about it, if there is a peer reviewer with a religious belief--he may not want to approve any such study/paper and call it blasphemy, regardless of irrefutable evidence. And that’s just from the scientific side.

The other consequence would be financially. Which dare I say is the real consequence TPTB would be concerned about. With such a discovery, the government would be obligated (by the people) to set aside land for these creatures/humans. If that were to take place, then forget about the “growth†and constant expansion of this country. (Which would probably be a good thing IMO, just to save the environment for us and the bigfoot). That would result in an even more critical economical crisis than what we have now. No more clear cutting forest and adding subdivision cookie cutter homes, not to mention the demise of the logging industry altogether.

Basically, what I am trying to say is that Ketchum/Erickson & others may be facing some external forces that are beyond there control. And they may not even realize that they have been manipulated into this dilemma (e.g, NDA, patents, copyrights, etc.) And as a result, all there hard work comes crashing down on them. With no recognition of probably the greatest discovery of this century. And all of us patiently waiting, will continue to wait until TPTB decide when the time is right to release this evidence. Probably when there are no more forests left to make money from. JMO

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I hate to say it guys, but this whole DNA/Ketchum/Erickson thing seems to be being held back by TPTB (the powers that be) IMO.

Erikson and Ketchum have the privilege of living in a free country and they can release their results/video anytime they want. The reason they are dragging this along is quite obvious. They don't have anything of import.

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If the DNA turns out to be human, the important/biggest religious organizations around the world will come into question. This could rock the very foundation of human evolution. If we think about it, if there is a peer reviewer with a religious belief--he may not want to approve any such study/paper and call it blasphemy, regardless of irrefutable evidence. And that’s just from the scientific side.

Once again, the 'R' word (and related discussion) is strictly forbidden unless it is used to impugn and/or malign a hypothetical 'someone' who might hold a certain 'R' word belief and by extension, the 'R' word itself by implying that those who hold 'R' word beliefs are the antithesis of intellectual honesty and objectivity.

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Richard is no longer posting on the forum, Susie, for whatever reason.

I don't think the Erickson project has anything to do with Melba other than that he submitted some samples for the study. I think Erickson was waiting on the paper to be released before he released whatever it was he had. Dr. Ketchum's paper is not out because she said the project was more involved than she anticipated and she is still working on it.

I am no longer posting (let alone reading) due to "trolling" by some (not all).

However, I'm still working on the DNA side of the equation behind the scenes, more or less.

Richard

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I'm glad for all the participants. I hope that that the findings are profound enough to stop the bickering and start the process of education. I for one would like to see Monster Quest and Finding Bigfoot replaced with Nova and National Geographic specials.

Maybe you will, my friend, maybe you will! :popcorn:

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If the DNA turns out to be human, the important/biggest religious organizations around the world will come into question. This could rock the very foundation of human evolution. If we think about it, if there is a peer reviewer with a religious belief--he may not want to approve any such study/paper and call it blasphemy, regardless of irrefutable evidence.

You're a few centuries late with your concerns that the "R" (as Bonehead said) establishment might not approve of a scientific study, paper, or discovery that may potentially not line up with what said establishment believes, and that it may try to stifle the results. I'm pretty sure that science is past that by now, just ask Mr. Darwin and the anthropology department at any major university. It is considered the norm nowadays, although I have some differing views on it.

Once again, the 'R' word (and related discussion) is strictly forbidden unless it is used to impugn and/or malign a hypothetical 'someone' who might hold a certain 'R' word belief and by extension, the 'R' word itself by implying that those who hold 'R' word beliefs are the antithesis of intellectual honesty and objectivity.

I agree. What you said is true, unfortunately.

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I am no longer posting (let alone reading) due to "trolling" by some (not all).

However, I'm still working on the DNA side of the equation behind the scenes, more or less.

Richard

Well keep us posted on your project Richard, I wasn't sure if it was your illness or your orneriness that ran you off.

I agree. What you said is true, unfortunately.

Just out of curiosity, maybe someone could e-mail the Vatican just to get their take on all of this, assuming they believe the person sending the e-mail. I wonder what stories they have collected about the wild man that they have locked away? Here is the public e-mail address that will get some kind of response:av.pccs@va

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The Vatican recognizes evolution as a valid scientific theory, they just believe it was started by a certain you-know-Who. They also admit the possibility of extraterrestrial life, so I can't see bigfoot being a problem assuming it's either a relict human or an animal. If it turns out to be something else, well...

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