Does A Bigfoot/ufo Connection Exist?

[Xion Comrade]

Atomic orange.

Lmao!

Wonder if they send the nuke-immune ones into US Nuclear Reservations like Hanford to build up tolerance and test them? Also, if the small ones don't have glowing eyes, then what do you have when you have a small ones with glowing eyes if they

are not juvenile Big guys?

Don't know, they wouldn't say exactly where they were..but that is interesting to think about, but if people complain about our speculation with the Sasquatch just imagine how much flame a person could incur speculating about channeled messages from extra terrestrials talking about the Sasquatch phenomena XD

I think for once, I'm speechless. Maldek? Bigfoot are Maldekians? Well those of you who communicate with them, would you please ask the psychic bigfoot to verify? Thanks in advance.

Lmao that would be great! Unfortunately they don't know about their spiritual origins any more than we do apparently...The aliens refer to the biological "Veil of forgetting" when one becomes incarnate as a human/3rd density entity XD Some referring to the 3rd density as the density of forgetting or blindness....holy crap I am really running with this stuff...this poor thread I think that is part of where the Aliens come in for the BF, helping to untangle it all so they can move on? The body is from earth, the thing/consciousness residing in the body is from Maldek to my understanding. Complicated from that point on, trying to untangle what is mind and consciousness/spirit.

I'm new here, and I'm still struggling a bit with some things.

How seriously does Xion Comrade take this deeply-dippy stuff? How does the Plus 1 system work such that Comrade Xion gets a plus one for his latest missive? Is there such a thing as an ironic plus one?

Mike

Just serious enough to keep going with it, I do not and cannot know what to make of it. It is a sort of hobby and part of my effort to put the proverbial puzzle pieces together you could say.

Honestly XC, I hate to tell you, but the one channeling got it all wrong. What actually happened was that in the big bang, we, the energy beings, came to earth to start our own creation outside of the Law of One. We knew it was dangerous, and our brothers were horrified to watch as their kin, The First Wave, got trapped in the flesh of the animals that they created. It prevented the First Wave from being sentient and completing the mission. The Second Wave arrived to come to the rescue of the First Wave and decided to use the hominids to manifest. It took a few million years to get the brain right in the skin clothes, unfortunately we got stuck just like the First Wave. Now we can't remember why we are here. We are stuck in a vicious cycle of reincarnation until we can break free. Several have come down into the flesh to remind us of our mission but we keep misinterpreting or disregarding the message. The bigfoot were just part of the First Wave and they've been stuck here a lot longer than the Second Wave. The goal is for all of us to reunite with the Law of One eventually.

About as valid as anything else you will come across in these materials lol. I guess it is up to the individual to try to figure it out for themselves tbh...The Channel seems to be legit, if anything is wrong it would be either a persons interpretation of the words in the material or the channelee themselves...that is believing that it is legitimate communication with a ultra dimensional ET in the first place lol.

Jodie, have you been talking to John Travolta again? I'm curious to learn how Xenu fits into all this.

I don't know, but doesn't Scientology have its own paramilitary force?

Man alive, you gotta go far out there to make the connection between Aliens and bigfoot don't you O.o But anytime you are dealing with the Aliens you gotta go way far out.

Edited January 7, 2012 by Xion Comrade

[Guest Jodie]

Jodie, have you been talking to John Travolta again? I'm curious to learn how Xenu fits into all this.

I thought I was channeling something real, dang it!

[Will]

Put your snorkels on, we are going into the twilight zone with Comrade! Studying New Age/the Extraterrestrial phenomena(Pretty much the same thing tbh), I have come across that we humans(Or 3rd density/dimensional entities of this particular planet) are actually a variety mix from different planets, but in particular were put here here from mars with some pretty hefty genetic engineering over the millenia when the population destroyed Mars' ecosystem if I am not mistaken in a war of some sort (put here by extraterrestrials/the keepers, Or the gardeners, I have heard them put that way as well). Apparently, from my understanding according to these teachings, in this particular corner of the cosmos it is just the norm for entities to evolve into a general sort of hominid shape by the 3rd density(Speaking very generally), or the time it/they/we become self aware. The Sasquatch were already here in some shape or form, but were also manipulated into a more dexterous/humanesque form to better suit them I guess. They live/stick to caves most of the time. There is another creature that is basically a animal(The Sasquatch are "Human", self aware) that aliens/keepers put here in case we nuke ourselves into oblivion(A body/gene pool to keep the species/3rd density going, they say it is able to stand up to what would be left over, radioactive wastelands I guess). These are smaller, do not have glowing eyes, and are much rarer/dispersed all over the planet, much more able to escape human detection, and live in the deep uninhabited forests of the planet rather than caves(Just in general sounds like something I would never want to see, dangerous maybe?). Apparently the Sasquatch are physically handicapped in some way/not as able to be aware of us(Dulled down senses or something, not sure), DO have glowing eyes, and are of a consciousness comparable to a human being, they have to resort to other methods of getting away from us than the nuke-repellant-apes do.

The total story that I have read is that the consciousnesses in the Sasquatches were brought here from Maldek, a planet that is now the asteroid belt. They destroyed it in a war, and were much like us/the martians before doing so(I guess tendencies towards "bellicose activities"). Technologically advanced and far along the beaten path as far as 3rd density goes. Thus the keepers/angels/aliens/whatever you want to call them took a now extinct ape then in existence, genetically modified it into what we now call the Sasquatch body(A giant furry human) and put those "Souls" into those bodies so they could continue....Why the aliens are buzzing around the Sasquatch phenomena so much? Who knows...We may need some of Wud's kool-aid before we can plunge to much deeper. From my understanding there is a spiritual significance to it all that most people don't care about/think about/would tend to serve to distract most people from the most important things right now. The "Aliens" in general just try to help everything, and meddle alot.

And they aren't aliens in the sense that most people would imagine it, being purely flesh and blood. I guess sort of a energy being, something that has evolved past physical/biological. At least that is what my journey has afforded me so far. I guess that is why they come through peoples walls, materialize and dematerialize and all of that good stuff...from a different dimension AND different planet at the same time. The process as I understand it is that the entity creates the "ship"(Not actually a ship, it is just a crystal structure, not really a machine, of course it depends on the type of alien doing it all, some require only thought/will, some are alot more like us and have to rely on technology) first, with thought from wherever it is...then it transfers itself into the ship, then it creates a physical body around itself...all using thought, or some form of super duper advanced meditation. I had read where clouds will condense into the ships and were the ships will sort of...liquify in mid air and change shape, vibrate, oscillate, and all sorts of other things. Splitting apart into smaller ships, letting go of little drones/camera devices and things of that nature...I guess that provides a explanation for it all, the things in the ships are doing it all with their minds. The entities say, supposedly, that we have gotten to the point in our physics and science that we actually understand it all as well as is possible for a 3rd density critter to understand it, just a little bit overcomplicated in our theories, and alot of other distorted/wrong material floating around too...Apparently Quantum Mechanics is important in studying it all among other things.

It seems the only spiritual thing to this would be demonic.

[Xion Comrade]

It seems the only spiritual thing to this would be demonic.

I would say that that is the typical/normal view of all things paranormal tbh...Be it ghostly, sasquatchly, psychic, alien...Pretty much anything that is strange(especially things unfamiliar or unknown) and especially if it also makes people uncomfortable(Or kills them and eats them...or takes over their body...or tortures them)But the abduction phenomena wreaks of something terrible, I would personally take that position.

[Guest]

As far as mutations go, was it just my imagination, or did anyone else notice wasps taking over the role of honey bees when they were in decline? I saw a few that had the bumble bee type coloring but with a wasp shape, was I dreaming or did I just never notice the species until the competition was gone? Anyway, I have full faith that in nature, what ever dies out,the niche subsequently gets quickly filled if it is still there.

A lot of wasps and even some moths have the same black and yellow stripey pattern that bees have as a deterrent to would be predators. Some insects might move in to the honey bees role for our vegetables and fruits but honey bees aren't native to NA so likely our native plants will still be pollinated by bumble bees, butterflies and moths like they always have been. Nature can be quick to evolve new solutions to an extinct species of insect but perhaps not quickly enough to pollinate some species of plants before they become extinct. There is a species of bee in South America that is the only pollinator of the brazil-nut tree. If these bees become extinct the tree could possibly follow. Unless a new pollinator could take over the role before the last few brazil-nut trees dies out. These trees can live for a few centuries, so perhaps.

It seems the only spiritual thing to this would be demonic.

It doesn't have to be spiritual at all. This could all be malarky. Some people have difficulty determining reality from dreams, hallucinations, and wishful thinking. Because the dream is more exciting than reality it often gets an extra "vote" from the person experiencing it. This could just be a story that someone made up to sell to those who like this sort of fiction and some of them may well believe it to be true. BF does have a lot of "spiritual" and "psychic" connections from various sources.

[georgerm]

Wonder how long my post will last until zapped?

'Xion Comrade' timestamp='1325884279' post='131536']

And that is the kicker, the information particularly dealt with channeling(How it was procured)...The "Entities" said that they did not want to have the material set up in such a way that it could be proven(Nor was it intended to be produced/turn into anything), but in such a way that it could be accepted or rejected at will by anyone. I guess it is a way to keep the material from being abused or jammed down someone's throat? Helluva kicker, sort of like the whole "So where is a Bigfoot? Why no hard physical evidence? Why can't I/don't I see one out in the woods?...Well it is because they are to smart, to fast, blend in to well, to rare, you did this wrong, it takes such and such years to get the needed experience..." you get the picture XD Either convenient facts, or quick excuses. Red pill or blue pill I guess. I figured some people may have been interested in it, especially the whole two-different-kind of "Bigfoot" part and the ones we are mainly interested in/encountering most of the time live in and around caves part...technically 3 different kinds, the third they said was a "Thought Form", a psychological phenomena I guess. Or maybe if you get enough people thinking something or believing in something, it sort of becomes real? I have no clue...

what? sorry I opened this thread

From the law of one .......book one as suggested by Xion Comrad.

To serve one is to serve all. Therefore, we offer the

question back to you to state that indeed it is the only activity worth doing:

to learn/teach or teach/learn. There is nothing else which is of aid in

demonstrating the original thought except your very being, and the

distortions that come from the unexplained, inarticulate, or mystery-clad

being are many. Thus, to attempt to discern and weave your way through as

many group mind/body/spirit distortions as possible among your peoples in

the course of your teaching is a very good effort to make. We can speak no

more valiantly of your desire to serve.

These beings speak through a lady covered in white, aligned in the correct direction with microphones that are set under her chin..................really........sounds like there should be a better way?

Back to BF. Seems like a hairy BF would jam UFO spacecraft fans by plugging the air ducts. Imagine a stinky, big animal whose smell makes humans puke,.......standing in a clean UFO with aliens and humans! Wouldn't the humans nearly die from stomach upsets? But these BF are the third species or invisible kind. I'm not being sarcastic but somewhat irritated by spending time here..........unless I might understand this.......

We might have been planted here by a life form/angels/aliens/god Those who walked on water here on earth know the answers to these questions, and tell us we don't get to know while in this flesh and blood form.......very hard to be in the 'know'. love ya

Edited January 7, 2012 by georgerm

[Guest Jodie]

Well, it was the only direction the thread could go in, really. This mumbo jumbo kind of stuff has been out there awhile. Now you know George.

[See-Te-Cah NC]

There is actually Jewish folklore that deals with the destroyed planet/asteroid belt hypothesis spoken of by XC. It describes the fall of heavenly beings... Probably not suitable for the forums, but interesting nonetheless.

Maldek is also translated as/also referenced as Marduk.

It seems the only spiritual thing to this would be demonic.

Reference my earlier above post... Watchers?

The inhabitants of Marduk were refered to as... wait for it... Luciferians.

Coincidence?

That's as far as I'll take it... forum rules.

Edited January 7, 2012 by See-Te-Cah NC

[Guest]

This topic can be discussed without religous references, so if everyone can go back to being mindful of the rules it would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Grayjay

Forum Rules

7. Do not discuss religion or politics. No exceptions.

Totally forgot to add an Orb Study I stumbled across....legit science, who knew?

http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_18_2_teodorani.pdf

[Sasfooty]

Totally forgot to add an Orb Study I stumbled across....legit science, who knew?

Well how about THAT???

Hmmmm....I wonder if they saw any BFs while they were conducting their study.

[bipedalist]

Concerning the ‘‘on’’ and ‘‘off’’ periods of the observed lights, there are hints

from some aspects of ball-lightning behavior. Some analogues of ball lightning

do not have luminous centers (Turner, 1998) and the visible light emitted from

these phenomena is feeble. If the Hessdalen lights alternate between ‘‘on’’ and

‘‘off’’ phases, it may mean that they are too feeble to be seen in their ‘‘off’’

periods. If so, then the ‘‘on’’ periods presumably result from periodic increases

in piezo-electric activity, or from cosmic-ray showers with their associated

release of electrical energy.

I like this assessment which leaves room for photographic capture (maybe with flash only) of the "off" experience when the earth-type lights are non-visible or in the off position.

Cool article so they operate under Turner's model and are mini- electro-chemical heat pumps it seems that can be spherically demonstrated as a nucleus but with little

light sphere satellites that can be "calfed" off from environmental stimuli such as mold spores et al

The MHZ KHZ HZ stuff drives me crazy though.....I like the VLF-ELF devices they use......I've talked about some of those in other threads I think.

I also liked their graph with the luminosity index referred to as a "strangeness index", definitely something in common with BF research hear huh?

[georgerm]

I want to see a Forest Giant, I want to deal with that for sure, but I am not so sure I want to meet a ET...I will probably try anyway though...From my understanding they will not do anything to you that goes against your free will. Sort of strange, because some of the abductions sound like hell on earth to me.

Actually on the site, go to search and type in The Law of One, that brings it up, 5 volumes all in pdf format...

The law of one is refreshing and positive.

Don't know how Bf fits into it but probably like any other earth animal...........another being for us to respect and to protect their habitat. oh, here it is:

http://www.llresearch.org/library/the_law_of_one_pdf/the_law_of_one_book_1.pdf

Questioner: Is there any particular race of people on our planet now who

were incarnated here from second density?

Ra: I am Ra. There are no second-density consciousness complexes here on

your sphere at this time. However, there are two races which use the

second-density form. One is the entities from the planetary sphere you call

Maldek. These entities are working their understanding complexes through

a series of what you would call karmic restitutions. They dwell within your

deeper underground passageways and are known to you as “Bigfoot.â€

The other race is that being offered a dwelling in this density by guardians

who wish to give the mind/body/spirit complexes of those who are of this

density at this time appropriately engineered physical vehicles, as you would

call these chemical complexes, in the event that there is what you call

nuclear war.

Questioner: I didn’t understand what these vehicles or beings were for that

were appropriate in the event of nuclear war.

Ra: I am Ra. These are beings which exist as instinctual second-density

beings which are being held in reserve to form what you would call a gene

pool in case these body complexes are needed. These body complexes are

greatly able to withstand the rigors of radiation which the body complexes

you now inhabit could not do.

Questioner: Where are these body complexes located?

Ra: I am Ra. These body complexes of the second race dwell in uninhabited

deep forest. There are many in various places over the surface of your

planet.

Questioner: Are they Bigfoot-type creatures?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct although we would not call these Bigfoot, as

they are scarce and are very able to escape detection. The first race is less

The Law of One, Book I, Session 9

117

able to be aware of proximity of other mind/body/spirit complexes, but

these beings are very able to escape due to their technological

understandings before their incarnations here. These entities of the glowing

eyes are those most familiar to your peoples.

Questioner: Then there are two different types of Bigfoot. Correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the final question.

There are three types of Bigfoot, if you will accept that vibratory sound

complex used for three such different races of mind/body/spirit complexes.

The first two we have described.

The third is a thought-form.

Questioner: I would like to ask if there is anything that we can do to aid the

instrument’s comfort.

[Guest]

just saw this on another site,never herd of it before, crazy story.

The 1973 Pennsylvania UFO-Bigfoot Encounter

By Brent Raynes

At about 9 p.m., on October 25, 1973, near Greensburg, Pennsylvania, over adozen witnesses watched a hovering bright red ball of light. A young man (age22) and two boys (ten-year-old fraternal twins) decided to take a closer look.Together they got into a car and began driving toward the field over which thelight was hovering. As they approached, the young man noticed that hisheadlights seemed to be getting dim, and the trio observed that the light wasdescending. Then walking up to the top of a hill they all saw a bright white“dome shaped†object, approximately a hundred feet across, apparently sittingon the ground below. The object made a “sound like a lawn mower.â€

Next they observed two dark figures moving along a nearby fence line. The youngman fired a warning shot over their heads with his 30.06 rifle. The creatureswere tall, one being about 7 feet tall and the other a little over 8 feet tall.They were covered in long, dark grayish hair, had greenish yellow eyes, andarms that hung down almost to the ground. The creatures also made whiningnoises, compared to the sound of a baby crying. There was also a strong odor inthe air, similar to burning rubber. Realizing that the creatures were beginningto slowly walk towards them, the young man fired a second warning shot overtheir heads, eventually firing three rounds directly at the tallest figure. Atthis point, one of the twins ran back toward his house.

The creature that had been struck whined and raised its right hand toward theother creature, almost touching it. The dome-shaped light and mower-like noiseceased, although a glowing area remained on the ground where the UFO had been(reportedly so bright that a newspaper could probably have been read by it).The creatures turned around and began walking off towards the woods. Thewitnesses eyes began to bother them.

At approx. 9:45 p.m., a state trooper arrived and returned to the field withthe young man. The glowing on the ground was still visible. They both got outand walked around, while something large was walking towards them in the woods.Trees could be heard being torn apart, and when they would stop the sound wouldsoon stop. The trooper had been with the young man for about half an hour whenthe young man spotted a brown figure coming in their direction. He fired hislast bullet at it. Then the young man noticed something coming out of thewoods. They jumped into the patrol car and drove out of the field.

At about 1:30 a.m., October 26th, members of the Westmoreland County UFO StudyGroup arrived on the scene. Around 2 a.m., as an investigator was questioningthe young man, he suddenly began breathing heavily, growling like an animal,and flailing his farms, knocking his father and the investigator to the ground.As this behavior was occurring, one of the team members complained of feelinglight-headed, then another of breathing difficulty. Then the young man, stillswinging his arms around and growling like an animal, suddenly collapsed facedown in a heavily manured area. Then he came to and warned the others, “Getaway from me. It’s here. Get back.â€

The father and the investigator who had been knocked to the ground, began tohelp the young man out of the area. The young man pointed into the darkness,claiming it was nearby, mumbling that he would protect them. He also saidsomething about seeing a man “in a black hat and cloak, carrying a sickle.†Theyoung man claimed that the dark figure gave him a message: “If Man doesn’tstraighten up, the end will come soon.â€

The young man had never before displayed any dissociative behavior.Psychiatrist Dr. Berthold Eric Schwarz was called in on the case by the StudyGroup’s director Stan Gordon. A complete account of Dr. Schwarz’s investigationof this dramatic case, Berserk: A UFO-Creature Encounter, appeared in England’s FlyingSaucer Review (Vol 20, No. 1, 1974) and in his book UFO Dynamics (1983,Rainbow Books, Moore Haven, FL). Stan Gordon’s book Silent Invasion: ThePennsylvania UFO-Bigfoot Casebook (2010) also recounts this case in detail.In fact, it adds some fascinating new details that I wasn’t familiar with fromprevious accounts. For example, Dr. Schwarz felt it unwise at the time tohypnotize the young man who had seen the UFO, fired at the Bigfoot, andexperienced the strange visionary entrancement of the dark figure. It hadcertainly been a very traumatic encounter for him. However, “many years laterâ€Stan and a colleague named George Lutz decided to approach both Dr. Schwarz andthe young man about allowing one of their “professional consultants†to regressthis witness. They were quite surprised when the experiencer looked at themoddly and asked them why they wanted to hypnotize him again! They looked ateach other in puzzlement and then asked him what he was talking about. He thenproceeded to explain how about two weeks after the UFO/Bigfoot event a man inAir Force blues and another man, tall, dark haired and in a business suit, hadapproached him and asked him to recount what had happened again. He said hethought that they were members of Stan’s organization, and, in fact, thoughtthe Air Force guy was none other than George Lutz (a former Air Force pilot andofficer), but Stan assures the reader that it “definitely was not Lutz or anymembers†of his group.

After listening to the young man’s account, the mystery visitors assured him hewasn’t crazy. “The Air Force officer removed from his briefcase a series ofphotos of UFOs,†Stan wrote. “Then even more startling were the pictures ofhairy Bigfoot creatures that had been taken nationwide.†One photo, allegedlytaken in Georgia, showed a Bigfoot-type creature with a pig under one armclimbing over a fence. “The men wanted the witness to point out to them any ofthe photos which appeared similar to what he had seen,†Stan added.

After this the Air Force officer expressed their interest in doing hypnosis onhim and the witness agreed. After the session they said that they would be intouch and left, but he never heard from them again. “Whoever these men were wasnever discovered,†Stan wrote. “This leads to the obvious question, does ourgovernment have an interest in both UFO and Bigfoot cases?â€

At the time of this incident, the Study Group had been investigating anepidemic of UFO and Bigfoot-type reports then raging in western Pennsylvania.Stan’s book provides a fascinating catalogue of these bewildering events.

http://apmagazine.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=212

[See-Te-Cah NC]

Wow, that's quite a story, Zig.

[bipedalist]

That same account is also listed in John Green's: Sasquatch: The Apes Among Us, except for the last portion about the agent flashing bigfoot pictures at the guy wanting to know what if they were familiar looking.

Edited January 28, 2012 by bipedalist