The Sykes / Sartori Report - Oxford-Lausanne Collateral Hominid Project

[Guest MikeG]

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Mike

[Guest thermalman]

Sorry and thanks Mike.

[Guest Darrell]

So what happens if the study concludes that bigfoot does not exist? Do you blame the evidence, those that submitted evidence, or those doing the study? Or can someone make the conclusion that they probably do not exist?

[BobbyO]

So what happens if the study concludes that bigfoot does not exist? Do you blame the evidence, those that submitted evidence, or those doing the study? Or can someone make the conclusion that they probably do not exist?

How could any study conclude BF doesn't exist ?

If the " evidence " they have isn't from a BF, then it isn't from a BF, that's it.

[Guest]

So what happens if the study concludes that bigfoot does not exist? Do you blame the evidence, those that submitted evidence, or those doing the study? Or can someone make the conclusion that they probably do not exist?

It's going to be pretty difficult to convince someone who has seen it with their own eyes that the DNA says they don't exist.

[Guest MikeG]

NGJ.......

It's just been explained very well that it is impossible for any evidence to be produced which says that something doesn't exist. The one absolute certainty that can be said now about all the forthcoming reports is that they will never be able to prove that sasquatch doesn't exist. It is impossible to prove the non-existence of something.

The tests can only say what the submitted samples are. It is an impossible leap to say that just because those samples were shown to be non-sasquatch, that all other samples are non-sasquatch.

Mike

[southernyahoo]

http://www.oxfordanc...mart/Itemid,67/

Bump, It looks like the service that Sykes is offering in testing is equivalent in value to $590.00 USD

It would be interesting to know if there would be more info than this reported in his paper.

• A readout of the relevant part of your mitochondrial chromosome (400 base pairs of DNA sequence).
  
• A full explanation of the scientific procedures that we used to generate your mitochondrial DNA sequence..
  
• A premium quality "Seven Daughters of Eve" certificate, signed by Prof. Sykes, identifying from which of the Seven Daughters you are descended.
  
• A premium quality "WorldClans" certificate, signed by Prof. Sykes, identifying where your ancestral mother fits into the Maternal Clans of the World.
  
• Free access to our on-line, MatriLine database with unlimited clan and DNA sequence searches.
  

• A fifteen-digit Y-Clan Cassic signature of your Y-chromosome.
  
• A full explanation of the scientific procedures that we used to generate your Y-Clan Classic signature.
  
• A premium quality “Paternal Clans†certificate, signed by Prof Sykes, identifying your ancient paternal clan.
  
• Information about your ancient paternal clan and its distribution in the current human population.
  
• Detailed instructions on the use of your Y-Clan Classic signature for genealogical research.
  
• Free access to our on-line, Y-Clan database with unlimited surname and DNA signature searches.
  

[Guest]

Are people sending Sykes samples that also submitted to Ketchum? If thats the case it will be interesting to see if Sykes can get his paper published in a timely manner, but If Sally comes on board to handle his PR, telling us they have mind-blowing and earth shattering evidence that will be published "soon", I'll have no option but to believe there is a big, world government conspiracy to hide bigfoot.

[southernyahoo]

I'm sure some samples are split, and should be in both studies. Hopefuly.

[BobbyO]

Are people sending Sykes samples that also submitted to Ketchum? If thats the case it will be interesting to see if Sykes can get his paper published in a timely manner, but If Sally comes on board to handle his PR, telling us they have mind-blowing and earth shattering evidence that will be published "soon", I'll have no option but to believe there is a big, world government conspiracy to hide bigfoot.

I'd like to hope that people wouldn't put all their eggs in one basket..

[Guest MikeG]

Bear in mind that some samples are very small, and could easily get "used up" in the process of one test. Hair possibly falls into this category, particularly when something unknown is being tested and all sorts of things have to be tried and re-tried.

Mike

[Guest]

I am listening to Sykes talking with George Knorry right now on Coast to Coast AM. Interesting guy and conversation. Highlights: cost to do 1 sample-$1500. He is eating the cost. Approx time to analyze 1 sample- 3 weeks. He seemed skeptical of finding something "new". But was open minded of maybe finding and confirming Neanderthal or denisovan etc DNA. Said he is immune from criticism because you can't fake DNA. Very open and honest. Kinda nice!

[yowiie]

It seems these poms aren't interested in anything but BF hairs, I submitted my request almost 6 weeks ago and still nothing

[Guest]

What did you have for a sample? He did mention he was mostly working with hairs. Also mentioned he was stunned at the response from N America, hadn't expected that much from here. Also, George asked him if it was some "new" DNA, like a hybrid etc, how long would it take to process that?...3 weeks. Like, no big deal. It's new, and right here is where it fits on the evolutionary tree. The guy seems way above the norm of what we ramble about here. Obviously a geneticist. On BFF we ramble about what if this, or what is that, or topics that are beyond our knowledge and we act like we know about DNA specifics. This guy was "yes it's DNA, we can extract it and figure what it is relatively quickly. No biggie". I hope he succeeds at this.

[southernyahoo]

I am listening to Sykes talking with George Knorry right now on Coast to Coast AM. Interesting guy and conversation. Highlights: cost to do 1 sample-$1500. He is eating the cost. Approx time to analyze 1 sample- 3 weeks. He seemed skeptical of finding something "new". But was open minded of maybe finding and confirming Neanderthal or denisovan etc DNA. Said he is immune from criticism because you can't fake DNA. Very open and honest. Kinda nice!

Sounds like he hasn't found anything yet, and still vetting samples before sequencing starts.