Sunflower Posted September 2, 2012 Posted September 2, 2012 Someone name another being, animal or otherwise, that escorts you from the woods.
Guest Posted September 2, 2012 Posted September 2, 2012 A good reason to maybe use peripheral vision in close Sasquatch encounters perhaps? [Assuming the stare doesn't have an infrasonic stun quality to it.] Maybe it was their way of describing infra sound? Although (correct me if I’m wrong) I remember a Native American legend describing Sasquatch being able to stun or kill prey by hypnotising it. Sounds a bit like this. Actually, member Indiefoot and myself have privately discussed the click languages and also should have mentioned it on numerous BFF1.0 and 2.0 threads that involve searches for speech, voice, speaking, language, sounds, etc. I have also been lucky enough to experience what I think to be both "chatter" and "clicks" in my recording efforts. Nothing to hang my hat on, but personal proof. So it not a case of one or the other, but both as much of life truly is. Wish I could direct you to one (thread) but you'd have as good of a chance as me in finding one. Ah, sorry I missed that. In my enthusiasm I didn’t do a search for this, but I will do it now of course. Unfortunately I don’t have access to premium content. ‘Everyone’ was meant in reference to the name “Samurai chatterâ€. I should have expressed myself better. BTW, it strikes me how much knowledge you and other members and researchers who study them in a non-aggressive way, have acquired in comparison to other researchers who want to kill one. Since the OP calls for speculating, how about. 5. Some populations are badly inbred. This is very sad. Derek Randles, in his latest interview on the Bigfoot Tonight Show, said that he believes there is no healthy breeding population in the Olympic area. Is there a way to turn this around? 9. Because they are in essence the ultimate "Hippy", they would view our behavior, as concerns nature, in a very troubling light. I suspect that is the fundamental gulf between us. +1 They seem almost the opposite of us humans: we manipulate and exploit our environment to suit our needs, most of us can’t live without mechanical tools and electrical appliances, etc. Most of us have lost the skills to survive in the wild. They are perfectly adapted to their environment. The ultimate zero footprint life.
ShadowBorn Posted September 2, 2012 Moderator Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) Beside being escorted, I have always wondered if they remembered a person they have come into contacted more then once. Are they capable of this type of memory of knowing that person who they might of had contact a year ago. Not like other animals who understand that when hunters are in the area they just know to stay away. But are these creatures capable fo distinguishing between one person from another and understanding what this person means to them. We are able to go through years of not seeing a friend and then one day seeing them some where and talking to them like it was just yesterday,Are they capable of the same. Like i said I stay away from the mind reading stuff but my encounters happens every hunting season. They always seem to know where i am some how, whether it is in my scent or the vibes I give off . But they always some how seem to know where I am in the woods and they leave some tell tale trace that they are there. The clues are always very settle in ways but you always know that it is them. it sure does boggle your brain since animals do not do such things like this and sometimes makes you believe that you might be being hoaxed.But when you rationalize and you tell yourself that no one knows where you are at , you are the only one who knows well where.Well thats when it gets real for me and when you are by your self it gets spooky. Edited September 2, 2012 by julio126
BobbyO Posted September 2, 2012 SSR Team Author Posted September 2, 2012 This is very sad. Derek Randles, in his latest interview on the Bigfoot Tonight Show, said that he believes there is no healthy breeding population in the Olympic area. Is there a way to turn this around? He didn't say that, he said he thought there were anywhere between 20 - 50 Animals on the Olympic Peninsula. That would make them rare of course and needle in haystack stuff, but it doesn't make it not a healthy breeding population there, if he's correct. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bigfoottonightshow/2012/08/20/special-guest-derek-randles
Guest Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 You're right, maybe he was talking about the general BF population? On the 27:23 mark he says: "I don't believe there is a giant, healthy population out there, I believe there are few". I erroneously thought that by healthy he meant there was no healthy breeding population, specifically on the Olympic Peninsula.
BobbyO Posted September 3, 2012 SSR Team Author Posted September 3, 2012 Sorry Didi, just crossed wires i think. I'd say that if the 50 or so Animals on the Peninsula was correct which i personally have said for years anyway too, that that is actually a sufficient population to breed. From some of the research i've done, i found a clear lack of sightings over a certain few year period in the Mount Rainer National Park ( IE ZERO in 2004, 2005, 2006 when there was 18 sightings in the previous 4 years ) when for the same years the Olympic Peninsula Sightings went up in the same period with a total of 9 Sightings in that 3 year period, 6 being in the first year, 2004. A pattern of movement ? Maybe.
Guest BFSleuth Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 That's an interesting observation BobbyO. After reading your post I launched Google Earth and set the Mangini places to take a 3 year sliver of sighting reports and starting moving it back and forth through time. The locations of sighting reports for Washington, for Oregon, and for California all seem to indicate moving clusters. This might indicate distinct populations that migrate from place to place over the course of several years in a location. This would also correlate with reports going back as far as Native American observations that the BF will come back to an area every few years.
bipedalist Posted September 3, 2012 BFF Patron Posted September 3, 2012 Yep, as I remember BobbyO found some interesting trends around Colorado Springs, CO too. Mangani makes it easy to look at trends for sure.
BobbyO Posted September 3, 2012 SSR Team Author Posted September 3, 2012 That's an interesting observation BobbyO. After reading your post I launched Google Earth and set the Mangini places to take a 3 year sliver of sighting reports and starting moving it back and forth through time. The locations of sighting reports for Washington, for Oregon, and for California all seem to indicate moving clusters. This might indicate distinct populations that migrate from place to place over the course of several years in a location. This would also correlate with reports going back as far as Native American observations that the BF will come back to an area every few years. Here they are. Clallam, Jefferson and GH County's for the Olympics and Pierce County of course for MRNP.. Yep, as I remember BobbyO found some interesting trends around Colorado Springs, CO too. Mangani makes it easy to look at trends for sure. Yeah, of that there is no doubt in my mind and i have been over it a zillion times. It's clearly a pattern of movement and i even purchased Elk and Deer overlay's for Google Earth which coincided with my initial research into their " new area ". Of course it's not definite proof, but as a " Knower " it does it for me and if i had to bet my life on what i found being a definite pattern of movement based on what i found and how i found it i would. If anyone's interested, PM me.
Guest BFSleuth Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 So if you can figure out the pattern of movement and get there in advance, in a blind, with professional quality cameras and telephoto lenses....
BobbyO Posted September 3, 2012 SSR Team Author Posted September 3, 2012 (edited) Still needle in Haystack stuff though BFS, the WA stuff you know full well about with regards to the size of the actual areas we're talking about and the CO stuff is equally vast. The big thumbs up i gave to the CO stuff was a direct correlation to a new area where Sightings were from 2000 - 2011 being in the exact routes that the Deer & Elk migrated ( i purchased the routes overlay from a Hunting website ), that kind of blew me away. I even found BFRO Reports that went in date order and in the East >> West route they would have taken up a specific River corridor ( South Platte ) which was THE only reasonable route that they could have moved in to get from their initial place ( Colorado Springs ) where Sightings were a plenty prior to 2000, to the new area which didn't have many Sightings prior to 2000, but then did after. & this bad Boy i'd guess is the leader.. http://www.bfro.net/...rt.asp?id=26522 Edited September 3, 2012 by BobbyO
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