Guest Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Sometimes people get soooo comitted to an(their own) idea that they choose not to consider others.
Guest Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Yes, it's true about some people, isn't it? And some other people have considered many things (including things you might think are a great idea) but they've decided against them for various reasons. And some others don't tell anybody what they're thinking or doing and they just head off on their own, but they're no fun on internet forums.
Guest Luckyfoot Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Sometimes people get soooo comitted to an(their own) idea that they choose not to consider others. And sometimes people consider aaaallll the options select the best one and commit to it.
Guest Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 We've been in the woods a long time, but nobody's resorted to buttstroking anything. Yet. It could be a new way to reciprocate a wood knock.
Guest Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) My thought is this. If one woodape is taken and the DNA etc. is gotten, then who's to say someone won't want another and then another woodape to dissect and compare the two, three, four etc. and see how they are related or differ in their DNA, structure, and things like that. ? That's the thing that bothers me about the entire thing. Edited November 14, 2012 by gail
Incorrigible1 Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Sometimes people get soooo comitted to an(their own) idea that they choose not to consider others. Sometimes people can't help but judge the efforts of others, even when no such judgement is asked for nor merited.
Guest Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Please show me where a TBRC member bragged that this is all tax deductable and they can buy all kinds of cools toys and write it off. Nothing wrong with a group taking advantage of tax deductions and having fun. Many clubs do the same and just sit on their stools and get drunk.
Guest Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Incorrigible- unmeritted or asked for? Since when do I need to be asked for? Unmerrited? The federal mandates are the law of the land so no conjecture, its already been covered.
Guest Luckyfoot Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 The federal mandates are the law of the land so no conjecture, its already been covered. This simply your own interpretation. No one has ever tested those "laws" with a bigfoot. Therefore moot point.
Popular Post Ike Posted November 14, 2012 Popular Post Posted November 14, 2012 I somehow just know I'm going to regret this, but sometimes you just can't help yourself so here goes nothing... This is my second post here on BFF. I'm much more of a lurker, but right now I just feel the need to vent. About once every year or so I drop in to see what's new in BF world, because let's face it, not a lot of "new" exciting info comes out very often. Lately, for a variety of reasons, coming to the BFF has become a daily ritual. I will be upfront and honest and say I am an outsider with a casual interest, interested in both the pro and con side of the issue. I guess I could best be described as a fence sitter who leans towards the "wants to believe" side. Ever since seeing "Those Mysterious Monsters" in the theater when I was a kid I have always been fascinated by the topic. Yet, I've bounced back and forth between the believer and skeptic sides most of my life. This fluctuates based on what I see and read at the moment which I deem to be "reasonable" evidence, or arguments against. I have never had an encounter, and I never will that I can ever forsee. Having said that, I have read a LOT here lately and I have to say I am quite impressed with Bipto and the TBRC (standard disclaimer here, I know absolutely none of these folks, nor do I belong to any BF organizations/clubs). I am struck that they are not extremists, but seem to be rather level headed with their approach based on what I see here. Most importantly though, they strike me as determined. They want to see this through and get results. Apparently they have had enough evidence of some type of cryptoid to keep going back week after week, month after month, year after year with that goal in mind. Pouring who knows how much time, money and effort into achieving that goal; with precious little to show for it at this point. It could be that these guys just like congregating in Oklahoma to wander around the woods with guns and drinking beer at night...but I doubt it. As anyone who has ever been involved in a hobby which borders on lifestyle can attest, at some point your "just for fun" factor wears out unless there is some sort of bigger payoff (not necessarily financial) to be had. Heck, you can go almost anywhere and sit out in the woods with a gun sitting by a fire to drink beer with your buddies without traveling to some remote area of Oklahoma. I've done it for years. For that reason alone, I am inclined to think they must be chasing something real. I don't know what "it" is, but they've certainly put a lot on the line to prove it. They "believe" something is out there, and some of them "know" there is. I think it's safe to say either they'll come home with an empty game bag, a wrongful death case for killing an idiot in a fur suit, or come home with a sasquatch tied to the top of an SUV. To outsiders with a passing interest like me, it seems that a lot of folks out there in BFF world come across as a bit like knee-jerk reactionaries on both sides of the issue. I'll start with a recommendation for you extreme skeptics out there. Three words for you..."LET IT GO." If you are so all fired certain that BF is a hoax and doesn't exist, why do you care what the TBRC or any other footer says or does? Do you also prowl fishing boards to endlessly challenge stories of "the one that got away?" Do you engage in this arena just to be argumentative? Why do you care how these guys waste their time and money, or what sorts of yarns they spin? Seems to me that the extreme skeptics need to find a more productive hobby, because I've got news for you...you ain't gonna change or convert the minds of believers or knowers. I never cease to be amazed at how much time people have to waste on such things, and to what end? I can understand having a differing viewpoint, offering constructive criticism, or even playing devil's advocate; but some of the stuff on here seems rather extreme to the point of being obsessive. I think most people who really disbelieve in BF in an honestly critical way, have sense to just shake your heads, move on, and leave the "fools" to their own devices. Personally, I don't have a lot of use for people who rule their lives by the shake of a Magic 8 Ball. Then again, I don't go on their forums and spend countless hours trying to make them see the error of their ways or convince them to do otherwise. For the "pro" side of the fence...I have the same advice in regards to this operation..."LET IT GO." For many of you, we get it...you don't want the TBRC or anyone else killing a BF. You can come up with all the elaborate, no-kill, tranquilizer, salt licks made of sleeping pills, dig a giant pit, hide a spring loaded lasso in the leaves plans you want to. The fact is, these boys are Texans...they have no qualms about throwing down on a 8' tall unknown monkey (or 8' tall anything else for that matter) in the middle of the backwoods of Oklahoma at 2 a.m. in the morning. That's what they went there for...to get one of these critters. I am particularly amused by the folks who are trying to sway TBRC plans with the "Kill a Bigfoot, Go to Jail" line of talk. Side note here, I really love those who like to brand pro-kill advocates as "murderers." Apparently they imagine that pro-kill advocates are regular Ted Bundy wannabes just working their way up the primate chain until they get to humans. (Hint for you, if they exist, we don't know what "they" are yet, nor do "they" have legal rights as prescribed by the laws of this country. By definition, "murder" is an act which one human unlawfully kills another human. Not a primate, not a proto-human, not a cryptozoological creature...another HUMAN as recognized by 98% of the populace in the world and 100% of the laws of these United States.) Back on track though, I don't mean to speak for anyone in the TBRC, but I suspect I can clue you in...THEY DON'T CARE. I've spent quite a bit of time around Texans and ruralites (I am one) in general. The perceived spirit of John Wayne is still very much alive and well regardless of how many folks wish it to not be, or deem it to be "in-politically correct." It is quite obvious to me that these folks are cut from the cloth that "a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do" (or ladies as the case may be). In this case, I'm sure they all will be more than ready to take their licks should the time come even if it means an extended stay at the Graybar Hotel. Hey, at least they'll have the biggest bragging rights on the cellblock. A more likely scenario is if, and a big IF, things develop wherein charges are brought and fines levied, someone will step up to pay the tab before the game warden or judges pen even lifts from the paper. No questions asked. So we're back to--they don't care. To sum up, I guess the point I'm trying to make is, do any of you really think that after 36 pages (at this point) of this stuff that anyone is going to change their stance based on comments posted here? Perhaps everyone should just take a deep breath, sit back, and let the TBRC do what they do and see what comes of it. I know I get bored with seeing the same arguments, questions, and accusations in post after post after post and I'd be willing to bet I'm not alone. Vent over. 5
Guest Kerchak Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Yes I have been there. And there is nothing like the thorns and plants that will tear chunks from your flesh like the African Bush. Drew, I'm in England yet even I know the forests of Canada are thicker and bigger than the 'African bush'.
Guest Kerchak Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 ^ I'll add, 'with far fewer humans as well'.
Drew Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Drew, I'm in England yet even I know the forests of Canada are thicker and bigger than the 'African bush'. Then you would be wrong.
Guest Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Ike, I dig your whole post and think you're right on the money. However, I'd like to clarify that the TBRC doesn't drink beer when we're out there doing our thing. Drinking, dark, and high power weapons are a bad combination. Other than that, top notch. Couldn't agree more.
Cotter Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Ike - excellent post - hopefully you'll do more of it! I'm out of plusses, but will come back tomorrow and make 'er right.
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