Why We Don't Hear The Little Ones

[Guest VioletX]

Human babies and children are loud and almost unstoppable forces of nature. But what about Bigfoot babies and children? Are there any reports/experiences of hearing crying Bigfoot babies or loud kids?

You would think that if Bigfoot wanted to remain elusive they would have to keep their kids in check, although it is possible that one of their baby's might be confused for human children??

Justin Smeja described the little ones as making a kind of guttural sound, so maybe they vocalize later,differently or simply less often.

I found this article that describes chimps as crying less, smiling more and being easier to control. Maybe Sasquatch youngsters are more mellow,but I can only imagine a Sasquatch tantrum,lol!

Article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1211865/Chimp-babies-better-behaved-human-cousins.html

Any thoughts/experiences?

[CMBigfoot]

I have not experienced it myself, but another researcher said he heard a juvy BF making a quiet vocalization and he decided to copy the call, but real loud. A BF charged and picked him out of the group of people that was there. One of the guys fired his gun above the head of the BF, but it still kept coming. The researcher jumped in a truck and took off and the BF chased after him. He came back hours later and went to take a pee at night and he said a huge hand covered the small of his back and grabbed him. He screamed and the hand let him go.

How much of it is true, if any of it. I don't know. But I do know that the call he used is the best ever to get return BF/unknown vocals.

[Guest]

My experience leads me to believe there are certain bird's whose typical calls, which are monotonous, that are relatively simple to mimic, and don't seem too out of place to most of us if repeated often, are used by juveniles to stay in vocal touch with parents I think in general we tend to under estimate their use of mimicry because it so often sounds like the real deal.

[Guest VioletX]

I wonder if Birdwatchers have some odd experiences, they would know if something wasn't quite sounding right you would think...

I wonder if the young ones would respond to a BF seekers bird call?

CMBigfootfoot, very creepy tale, lesson being don't mess with the Juvi-Squatches I guess.

[Guest]

Yes to both of your questions Violet. The problem with birdwatchers is however, if they don't witness the BF, they squeeze any anomaly into some bird species (or known animal!). you can find some of that chatter on their forums....BF never comes up as a solution!

.and I have had some interesting exchanges with several species of birds at the same time...Sound mimicry is really tough to sell to skeptics, but to the BF researcher invaluable...learn your birds, especially night ones and pay attention to behaviors. And don't confuse the juveniles by using the family's calls, they don't like it!

Edited November 3, 2012 by apehuman

[Guest VioletX]

Thanks Apehuman, I will keep my ears open ; )

I would also think the small ones might be intrigued by non-Bigfoot type calls, just interesting playful sounds singing etc.

[Guest]

Human voices do not travel well. Try standing a block away from a friend and having them yell. You'll hear them, but not at volume. If you couldn't see them would you know what it was? What if there were sound-deadening things between you and he? What if you were in a forest 100 yards away with a forest of trees between you and a breeze moving the trees? As a search and rescue member we learned quickly that part of going off the beaten path was carrying a whistle and that in the woods your voice is about as poor a way of trying to communicate as anything. It's just not heard. If you want someone to hear you, your voice isn't likely going to do it.

If a tree falls in the woods does it make a noise? Doesn't really matter, and in the case of an animal YOU need to be within earshot. Do you think birders hear birds outside of where they are? Why would an animal like bigfoot not move away from you if they had a little one? My thought is if an animal could move away from you in hopes it was undetected, it would. If I didn't want to be detected, as a car approached I would move away from the car and keep moving until I knew I was far enough away that you and I didn't hear or see each other. If I heard brush and limbs breaking I would move away. If a bird builds a nest in my rain gutter I might hear the chicks. If it builds the nest in the forest and I'm not there I probably won't.

Bottom line, a child in the woods isn't likely to be heard because it's not loud enough, and you and I aren't there anyway to hear it.

[Guest VioletX]

Great answer Ace!

I was thinking something like that, that if they had kids they would go deeper in the forest if need be, but I had wondered if they would possibly be louder and more resonant than human kids.

My daughter reportedly has one of the loudest voices I have ever heard, lol, if there was the Big foot equivalent I know the parents would be saying, "Shh! Use your outside voice!!!

[Rockape]

The offspring of many wild animals have a natural instinct to stay quiet and still when trouble could be close, and will key off body actions of the adults to know when to do so. Plus adults, who usually know when something is about, will often use themselves as "decoys" to lure whatever the threat is away. I have often wondered if that is what "Patty" is doing in the PGF, trying to lead them away from her young, hoping they would pursue her and not find her young hiding nearby.

I'm not saying that's what happens, just that it's a possible explanation.

[Guest VioletX]

The offspring of many wild animals have a natural instinct to stay quiet and still when trouble could be close, and will key off body actions of the adults to know when to do so. Plus adults, who usually know when something is about, will often use themselves as "decoys" to lure whatever the threat is away. I have often wondered if that is what "Patty" is doing in the PGF, trying to lead them away from her young, hoping they would pursue her and not find her young hiding nearby.

I'm not saying that's what happens, just that it's a possible explanation.

Yes, I have heard that about the adults luring, warning people away, interesting idea about Patty, although, I think that would be a very unusual thing to do, go out way into the open like that, but it is an intriguing idea.

And to go back to sounds for a second, it is very possible if you were not looking for Bigfoot that any sounds of "kids" would not even be out of the norm, that is unless you were way out in a desolate place in the forest,

[Rockape]

Adult animals will sometimes sacrafice themselves in order to save their young.

And true about the sounds if you are not looking for BF.

Folks who don't believe they exist or never think about it wouldn't consider them as a source for a sound they heard. I think there is probably quite a bit of other BF behaviour that goes unreported because of that also. I've had some things happen in the past that at the time I never thought could have a connection to BF, but knowing what I do now, I think back on these odd occasions that left a distinct memory and wonder.

[Guest VioletX]

For sure, I remember hearing some weird echoey noises beyond a noisy celebratory drum circle a couple times that jumped out at me as weird.

[indiefoot]

A few years ago I was standing on the bank of a creek that was about 10 ft above the water. A baby started to cry/scream that was fairly harsh sounding but a baby to be sure. The sound was coming from a brushy area about 75 feet up stream, on the other side, much closer to the water level. Definitely below my level.

The baby let out a couple yels and then a crow started to vocalize from the same place. Almost immediately several other crows joined in from thw same location. All of the crows just raising a rucus, thing is you could still hear the baby crying amoung the group. after a minute or so the baby stopped and then the crows stopped and I stood there with my jaw on the ground.

Nothing after that, I didn't think crow hunting sounded very smart at the time. J

Just one of those "who Knows Moments" that happen when you are around these guys.

I have also heard recordings of a female, childlike voice humming.... from a tree line at night.

[Guest]

You heard a baby in the woods and crows and didn't investigate?

[indiefoot]

Nope, don't remember any missing babies either. I was not prepared to cross the creek and was not looking to go bush whacking if I did. I doubt that they were crows but who knows, maybe they were raising a baby.