Guest DantheMan Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 And the discredidation of his critics continue! If I had a BF body and it would shut up my critics, I think I'd keep my mouth shut! But that is just me! Lol Great point.........I certainly wouldn't be bad mouthing everyone else in the bigfoot world on top of not keeping my mouth shut either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest njjohn Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 The problem with the "body exhibit" hypothesis is that in order for it to be preserved in that matter, it would have had to been vacuum sealed after a full embalming. If it's vacuum sealed, how could anyone analyze it? So that eliminates the university aspect. It also eliminates the Musky being able to prod the corpse aspect. Temperature and temperature alone determines decomposition. Even embalming fluid if a full embalm, will only slow decomposition, not slow it. And it's been 5 months. It's impossible for every claim that RD's made to be true, which makes the whole story fall apart. Funny that Steve Kulls figured out the hoax when he got the freezer receipt in 2008, and now Musky or RD slipped with the info about the corpse storage (and hasn't come back since) so this one can be blown open by another freezer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VioletX Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 The mystery of who 'owns' the body still remains. Initially it was suggested that Minnow held the rights and would display the body at the Tribecca Film Festival. Now Dyer is suggesting that he will make money from the sale of the body which implies full/part ownership. There is an old saying.... If you are going to be a good liar you must have a good memory.... Remember that Dyer has said that"they" have had to do some double -talking, in the end we will know what is information and what is mis-information. I have been paying attention and more and more Dyer has been taking the "I " out oof things and saying we and they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Some guy on that FBFB thread has said this: I would have been a bit skeptical about this story except I was in one of Morgan Matthews documentaries a few years ago. It would be out of character for him to perpetrate a hoax, but delaying the release of a body to coincide with the film makes perfect sense. That is something he would do. Let's wait and see. The guy who said that is known in the bigfoot world and it's funny, but he was one of the first people involved with the Justin Smeja story. I am not positive that it is the same person, but pretty sure. I'm only saying this because that is a public page that anyone can see so I don't feel like I'm exposing anyone. I'm not sure which film he would have been in, but he is a taxidermist, I think. He may even be talking about this same documentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 The problem with the "body exhibit" hypothesis is that in order for it to be preserved in that matter, it would have had to been vacuum sealed after a full embalming. If it's vacuum sealed, how could anyone analyze it? So that eliminates the university aspect. It also eliminates the Musky being able to prod the corpse aspect. Temperature and temperature alone determines decomposition. Even embalming fluid if a full embalm, will only slow decomposition, not slow it. And it's been 5 months. It's impossible for every claim that RD's made to be true, which makes the whole story fall apart. Funny that Steve Kulls figured out the hoax when he got the freezer receipt in 2008, and now Musky or RD slipped with the info about the corpse storage (and hasn't come back since) so this one can be blown open by another freezer. You are going to have nightmares about embalming now njjohn. How come you know so much about it? I thought you were a journalist not a mortitian? The guy who said that is known in the bigfoot world and it's funny, but he was one of the first people involved with the Justin Smeja story. I am not positive that it is the same person, but pretty sure. I'm only saying this because that is a public page that anyone can see so I don't feel like I'm exposing anyone. I'm not sure which film he would have been in, but he is a taxidermist, I think. He may even be talking about this same documentary. How come hes known in the BF world when hes a taxidermist? LOL Oh wait...is it because he works with hunters alot? ie stuffing dead bears etc..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkGlasgow Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Ah the old 'double-talk'. Dyer said that they told about 10 different versions of the events leading up to the 2008 hoax. I guess by claiming 'double-talk' he can pass off his oversights as something intentional. Lessons learned at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I'm not a member of FB (for good reason)..do you have a link I could use that doesn't require membership? Thanks It's a public page and you don't have to be a member of facebook to read it. It's the first article/video on the top left called bigfoot 101. We have been talking about all the comments under that video. There are a lot of them. https://www.facebook.com/FindBigfoot?ref=ts&fref=ts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkGlasgow Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) http://www.minnowfil...-the-world.html “Morgan Matthews’ fabulous documentary… was beautifully articulated so that it began as a genial study of eccentricity and darkened into something far more melancholy and disturbing†The Independent It's clear Matthews doesn't play by the book. He doesn't have a body and he didn't film someone killing a BF but he can certainly twist a standard topic and make it so much more. Edited February 5, 2013 by MarkGlasgow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VioletX Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 ^ Morgan Mathews said that all of the guys in the Taxidermy documentary were great chaps, the kind you would like to hang out with...except for one...I wonder which one of the Taxidermy guys this one is? I think it is the nice one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Mentions that he was NOT a naughty boy in Florida either! Glad all that's cleared up. Hey maybe its not actually Dyer himself posting all that stuff tonight and its also not really Musky on that thread about the prozzie? Maybe they are actually on that road trip to Vegas. Like Thelma and Louise driving off into the sunset while all along, little do they know that their 'team' are running amok on the blogs and having a field day. Those pesky workers hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 The exhibition scenario may have a potential flaw. Vegas has lots and lots and lots of way for people to part with their money. Would you pay to see a body of an alleged bigfoot. Probably not. Unless this body is x-rayed, ct scanned, necropsied, dna and genomed it will never be anything but an alleged body. And Dyer's already run with that scenario and did not turn out well for him. So his university guys had better do a bang up job and document the species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VioletX Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Ah the old 'double-talk'. Dyer said that they told about 10 different versions of the events leading up to the 2008 hoax. I guess by claiming 'double-talk' he can pass off his oversights as something intentional. Lessons learned at least. Except in this case I don't think there are 10 different versions so maybe it really is double talk , or maybeit is double-talk about the double talk and you are correct. We will know soon enough. Maybe after the "unveiling the body will be sent to the taxidermist ; D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 ^ Morgan Mathews said that all of the guys in the Taxidermy documentary were great chaps, the kind you would like to hang out with...except for one...I wonder which one of the Taxidermy guys this one is? I think it is the nice one? haha 'great chaps'!! So British! 'Jolly nice bunch of chaps they were, they werent 'cads' or 'bounders' but just jolly good chaps' haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 The problem with the "body exhibit" hypothesis is that in order for it to be preserved in that matter, it would have had to been vacuum sealed after a full embalming. If it's vacuum sealed, how could anyone analyze it? So that eliminates the university aspect. It also eliminates the Musky being able to prod the corpse aspect. Temperature and temperature alone determines decomposition. Even embalming fluid if a full embalm, will only slow decomposition, not slow it. And it's been 5 months. It's impossible for every claim that RD's made to be true, which makes the whole story fall apart. Funny that Steve Kulls figured out the hoax when he got the freezer receipt in 2008, and now Musky or RD slipped with the info about the corpse storage (and hasn't come back since) so this one can be blown open by another freezer. There are full embalming techniques that will preserve tissues over 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 ^ Morgan Mathews said that all of the guys in the Taxidermy documentary were great chaps, the kind you would like to hang out with...except for one...I wonder which one of the Taxidermy guys this one is? I think it is the nice one? I bet it was Ken the one who made that comment. Ken was the rogue taxidermitististist! There are full embalming techniques that will preserve tissues over 5 years. LOL YIkes! NOt another embalming fetishist! arrrrrrrrrhhhhhggg....do you both belong to a 'special' site for embalming 'enthusiasts'?...sorry, I am getting silly and need to go to bed. Its been a long day of typing and thinking and getting embarrassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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