GuyInIndiana Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) , and shooting one would generate a much needed global debate about the ethics of killing other sentient beings. As if we need to kill one, to have that debate? No. We don't. We're having it right now, right here. Edited October 28, 2013 by GuyInIndiana
Guest Darrell Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) ^If your mind is made up then a specimen would only validate your belief. But the other 99% of people would need to have that type specimen before accepting anything in this phenomina. I think we should kill one, but Im not sure it will ever happen because for the most part I believe they dont exist in the populations and areas most of the footers think they do, if they exist at all. Edited October 28, 2013 by Darrell
Lake County Bigfooot Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) All this speaks to is the lack of our ability to gather evidence properly, I know that Meldrum has had hairs that basically came back as no known animal type from Gen Bank, so what we have here is an example of being made to look very stupid. All of us that conduct our own field research need to listen to the lesson, We need to quit Squatching and start researching, not more whooping and tree knocking, but hard searches for the physical evidence. We neglect that all too much and all too often and settle for experiential evidence that proves nothing to no one. Foot print evidence is still the strongest form of evidence we have for Sasquatch, and some hair that obviously was missed by this study... which I think really sucks, because we should have had our samples vetted by somebody, say Meldrum, and not allowed all the crap to find its way into the lab. You tell me none of this stuff was examined beforehand by a qualified animal hair specialist to see if it was worth testing? So dang stupid!!! Oh pretty please could someone upload this episode on Utube for the rest of us nut cases to get a look Edited October 28, 2013 by Lake County Bigfooot
BobbyO Posted October 28, 2013 SSR Team Posted October 28, 2013 Good point. My husband would agree wholeheartedly that seeing is a believeing and im borderline nut job for thinking that they do butt thats a different story I think it would make me a paranoid fool if i believed Justin when i dont know him and the results came back negative. so even though part of me wants to believe him (and for what its worth he seems like a sound bloke aside from all this mess)but this time lol im going to opt for sanity and say that i cannot be sure and therefore fold. That is perfectly understandable..
Guest shoot1 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) As if we need to kill one, to have that debate? No. We don't. We're having it right now, right here. What's being debated here doesn't impact anyone other than the people on this forum. A real-world debate won't take place until someone secures a type-specimen. Edited October 28, 2013 by shoot1
Gotta Know Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 We need to quit Squatching and start researching, not more whooping and tree knocking, but hard searches for the physical evidence. We neglect that all too much and all too often and settle for experiential evidence that proves nothing to no one. Bingo.
GuyInIndiana Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 What's being debated here doesn't impact anyone other than the people on this forum. A real-world debate won't take place until someone secures a type-specimen. Seriously? And 'who' are 'we' going to turn this over to? The U.N.? The fact something IS sentient already demands our care in how we do or don't handle ourselves. Killing one only reveals the hypocrisy of saying we "need to do this" in order that no one "does this again". We need to quit Squatching and start researching, not more whooping and tree knocking, but hard searches for the physical evidence. We neglect that all too much and all too often and settle for experiential evidence that proves nothing to no one. I don't know what you do in the field, but many of us here already are, and have been engaged doing this. This isn't a revelation.
yowiie Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Yes that's right, looking for physical evidence is paramount in most researchers minds It is out there, some people have it already but it's been dismissed for whatever reason Discovery of foot prints, bed structures etc will yield evidence but getting someone to check said evidence is harder than you would think
Guest Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 I posted this in the Sykes thread too, but here's a page that has links to ep 2. http://watchseries.lt/episode/Bigfoot_Files_s1_e2.html
Guest shoot1 Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Seriously? And 'who' are 'we' going to turn this over to? The U.N.? The fact something IS sentient already demands our care in how we do or don't handle ourselves. Killing one only reveals the hypocrisy of saying we "need to do this" in order that no one "does this again". There will simply never be a real world debate unless someone produces a type specimen. Edited October 28, 2013 by shoot1
Guest rascar capac Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 Why would killing a bigfoot help? They seem almost impossible to find, so are well protected now. Ending a life to prove us right seems incredibly selfish. My heart went out to Justin as I watched him receive the DNA results. Whether or not his story is true, I am convinced he believes it is.
BobbyO Posted October 29, 2013 SSR Team Posted October 29, 2013 We are Human Beings rascar, the most selfish species on the planet bar none.
Guest rascar capac Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 BobbyO Yup. But I think education has made us less so, or at least made people with no natural empathy think twice about their actions, because they look to 'norms' as a cue for their behaviour. If no one says otherwise, then it's okay to kill anything. In the past it was different races of people. Or just different families.
Guest Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 Sorrowful stuff really as i wouldnt pull the trigger but i'd be first in line to see the proof, find me someone that wouldnt ?
Oonjerah Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 Washington state samples (including a sample from the Olympic project): ... 5. Canine, wolf or dog (olympic project sample submitted by Derek Randles) 6. Canine, wolf or dog (Marcel Cagey) 7. NOT STATED ... DID ANYONE ELSE PICK UP THAT ONE SAMPLE FROM WASHINGTON STATE WAS UNACCOUNTED FOR? Sykes did state at the end of the programme that the US project did not find a 'bigfoot' so it is somewhat perplexing.. It's very perplexing in lieu of sample #7. "Not Stated." (He sure knows how to keep this Turkey in suspense.) "US project" : word play. Can it be that #7 is from Canada?
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