Guest Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 "The exact breakdown into non-recurring and recurring costs is not available, but, according to NASA, the average cost to launch a Space Shuttle as of 2011 was about $450 million per mission.Space Shuttle program"http://www.frontiernet.net/~docbob/shuttle.htm Thank you for the correction, the information I had was a bit out of date. But here is a point of comparison: The NFL made somewhere around 8 billion dollars in 2013 alone. So that means that people are willing to shell out multi-billions per year to watch some punks play a game but scream bloody murder when the government spend half a billion to put a man in space. Makes me sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Hello All, How about a litte more fuel for the fires? http://www.ghosttheory.com/2011/10/01/bigfoot-researcher-believes-us-forest-service-covers-up-bigfoot "Bigfoot Researcher Believes US Forest Service Covers-up Bigfoot Submitted by Xavier Ortega on October 1, 2011 – 11:20 AM Patterson/Gimlin Bigfoot Bigfoot Researcher and author William Jevning has gone to Twitter to post what he believes to be a possible US Forest Service cover-up in the matters of Bigfoot. The story was posted by Craig Woolheater over at Cryptomundo and I just happen to stumble across it. Craig, being the good guy that he is, has gone through the tedious task of arranging Mr. Jevning’s tweets that where posted in reverse order (oldest twit on bottom) on the Twitter page. So what did tweet say? Well it turns out that the author might have uncovered an attempt at covering up some proof of the infamous mythical creature known as Bigfoot. Mr. Jevning’s reveals in his tweet that upon being called to investigate thousands of possible Bigfoot tracks found by hunters, he was surprised when he arrived at the alleged location of the prints only to find that the US Forest Service had “washed†away every single track. For those who may be interested in the subject of the Sasquatch (Bigfoot), I wanted to bring something up I was recently talking about. I was chatting with someone about the possibility of a cover up in regard to this subject, I don’t specifically mean a government one However, I know of two cases in which forest service personnel were involved. with limited space here, this may take a bit to explain, so for those reading this, please be patient with me. In 1994, I was contacted by the father of a co-worker. He and a friend of his had been scouting a favorite hunting area prior to the season this area had been totally blocked to public access for years, they had a vehicle that made it possible to go cross country This was in the Mt Adams area of Washington state the roads there are covered with a thick dust, averaging 2 to 3 inches in depth on average, this is a perfect medium for impressions The two men who were scouting their hunting area came across what they believed to be footprints made by a Sasquatch They followed the tracks for a very long distance, they estimated there to have been thousands of footprints, which is not unusual They decided they needed to tell someone about their find, on their way out of the area, they encountered a forest service supervisor. They related what they had been doing and what they found and where to this individual. He removed what they estimated a very expensive looking cameras from his truck, and said he was going to document the footprints. They contacted me a few hours later knowing I was an investigator of the issue. and wanted to take me there immediately. I agreed, and we left for the site. we traveled the same way they had gone to find the prints and told me the entire story. we passed a forest service water truck just prior to going cross country in that area, this is thetype used to support fire fighting Once we arrived to the road network inside the blocked off area, we saw that the water truck had been on these roads. When we got to the location where they found the footprints, we found that the road had been “misted†which is rain like spray this is one kind of spray these other trucks can do in assisting forest fire fighting efforts the only place where water had been used, is where the two men said the footprints had been, the water had destroyed them. when I attempted to locate this supervisor, I was told no such person existed! I found the attitude by forest service personnel less than honest I know of one other personal situation similar that I investigated, I will relate this another time when asked why this issue would be covered up, the answer is simple, financial concerns, when researching for my book, I did some work with the federal endangered species act If the worlds largest living hominid were to be proven to exist on the north american continent, ALL logging would stop overnight..literally The industry and all associated businesses would cease to function for years…I believe this could provide a very credible reason. –source: Twitter, via Cryptomundo" And then there's this little tidbit which is different by being two or three years earlier than what you may be accustom to seeing. This was only 7 years after the PGF was first filmed! http://bigfootresearch.blogspot.com/2013/07/bigfoot-declared-to-exist-by-us-army.html ENJOY! Edited February 17, 2014 by hiflier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spader Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 We do have a example of a USAF manual depicting Sasquatch http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/04/photos-of-day-army-corp-engineers.html?m=1 My Old Man, was in the Air Force as an M.P. in country for two years 69-71. I don't know exactly why, but as an M.P. he had to go through Survival Training School in the Pacific NW. Same as the pilots. In HIS briefing before the dreaded two weeks in the woods with only 2 days of food and whatever would be in is survival kit, he was briefed on what animals that inhabited the area. One of which was what he later recalled was a" large bi-pedal humanoid, that goes out of its way NOT to be detected, known to the locals as Sasquatch". He told me that this very basic sketch of the creature was in his opinion to be "a mind game" to seed another thing to be scared of besides being captured, starving to death or of exposure. So, he just ignored it. Remember this was '68, no one had really heard of Bigfoot. It wasn't until the 70's and watching In Search Of that he remembered that briefing. And till this day the old ******* still refuses to even speculate the idea that they exist. Jeez. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDL Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Thank you for the correction, the information I had was a bit out of date. But here is a point of comparison: The NFL made somewhere around 8 billion dollars in 2013 alone. So that means that people are willing to shell out multi-billions per year to watch some punks play a game but scream bloody murder when the government spend half a billion to put a man in space. Makes me sick. I guess we need to choose som NFL stars and send them to space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Hello Spader, I'll wager it's not mentioned today Thanks for the anecdote, I have no doubt the briefing at the time could have been a ploy but my take is that it was "official" in it's tone. I would like to know, even if he doesn't subscribe to the idea, whether or not the ploy worked. When he was there DID the thought cross his mind and was he more on guard for a potential encounter as a result of the info? It's kind of important as it plays into the fear that is propagated today by those wishing to keep most folks out of the woods. As a side feature I think a good water filter should be on everyone's mind as a personal defense against fracking waste water potentially finding it's way into aquifers. The well-downplayed recent Colorado flooding comes to mind as runoff from fracking sites percolates through ground substructures. For a bit extra an arsenic filter can be acquired. Nothing gets rid of radiation. Edited February 17, 2014 by hiflier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted February 18, 2014 SSR Team Share Posted February 18, 2014 Hello All, OK. Back on topic. I wqas doing search after search to see if there was ANY response from wildlife agencies regarding BF. Nope. Well, except for this one http://wildlifedepartment.com/facts_maps/have_u.htm And this - https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.490106417711193.1073741834.487563514632150&type=3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Hello BobbyO, Not being a social networker more than likely I won't view it. Even as a guest visitor my internet browsing will be tracked by the website for about 90 days. I'm not a paranoid type but really dislike being snooped on. The NSA? well that how the cookie crumbles but with facebook I might have a shred of a choice. Even if a website has a facebook button that you never push I don't like their butting their noses into nearly everywhere. And there are some rather serious legal issues that almost no one knows about. I'm off topic enough so members will have to research it for themselves and I encourage all to do just that. Edited February 18, 2014 by hiflier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 Hello All, I'm still on the hunt for evidence of official directives, memoranda, or other indications of knowledge. This video is something I ran across though not proof of that knowledge by any stretch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbdePcUn8I4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted March 2, 2014 SSR Team Share Posted March 2, 2014 . I'm not a paranoid type I think you need to re read what you posted as I reckon I'm not alone in thinking you most certainly are and that post shows why.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 Hello BobbyO, OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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