Guest Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I can't say that they are, indiefoot. It's more like an apples to pineapple grenade comparison. Bigfoot, regardless of any stance on it, is a plausible life form that could actually exist. It's a shy, large, ape-like humanoid living out in the wilderness, sometimes interacting with humans but generally keeping to itself. Nothing about Bigfoot should require people to reexamine their world views. Fairies, on the other hand, are a whole other kettle of fish. They're supposed to be these tiny little creatures that can fit in the palm of your hand, are perfect replica of humans except for their insect wings, and they can apparently use some kind of magic. There's so much wrong here I don't even know where to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiefoot Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 So what does bringing Fairies to the discussion serve? Is it just an attempt to paint BF witnesses and Fairy witnesses with the same brush. I am disappointed when I see folks turn to fallacies to try and muddy the water in otherwise healthy discussions, JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Don't know, it wasn't me that brought up fairies. There are plenty of problems with eyewitness testimony in general and Bigfoot witnesses in particular without bringing up faulty comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stan Norton Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 "There is no answer that a skeptic could give that will satisfy someone who flat out refuses to accommodate the notion that they may be wrong" Except that there is. I live in a world in which Sasquatch is a distinct possibility and, on the basis of purported evidence, I am very much open to that possibility. I could also very well be convinced of the opposite but that is unlikely to happen on the BFF (mission statement is....?) where 'it just stands to reason' arguments from the cod-sceptical all and sundry abound and mostly have about as much weight as a fairy scat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDL Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Does anyone believe someone can make the same posting in a multitude of threads? Yes, sadly, when the threads get derailed into the same old opponent vs proponent argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotter Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 So, today on the way to work, I was driving. For a minute I thought I was hallucinating the road in front me. Then I thought "Hey, I must also be hallucinating the car I'm in". So I opened the hallucinated door, rolled out onto the hallucinated highway. Woke up in a hallucinated hospital. It's a good thing too, b/c I hallucinated the bill as well. What I am to understand here, is that folks that do not know each other, or have ever been 'into' bigfoot, just randomly decide to hallucinated ape-men? How many fire breathing dragon hallucinations are out there? What compels people to call the police to report their manifested hallucinations? For those that experience hallucinations (several in this thread apparently). I implore you to PLEASE not drive, not own firearms, not breed, not own pets, not to use sharp objects, and not to use a stove. Apparently these hallucinations can manifest in near physical form. (For the record, I've experienced hallucinations as well. Man, college was great! But I've never felt compelled to be traumatized by it, or called the police) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 ^^^Really. When there is nothing else, in the Western world, being 'hallucinated' nearly as often as a bipedal ape for which a convincing biological profile is also being 'hallucinated,' it's time to get off the hallucination that people are hallucinating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stan Norton Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 But guys, get with the programme! Bigfoot doesn't exist so it just has to be a hallucination...come on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Yes, sadly, when the threads get derailed into the same old opponent vs proponent argument. Nobody could believe that anyone could be so wrongheadedly 'skeptical' about something, get corrected so many times, and go on gabbling as if the corrections simply hadn't happened ...until someone comes here and sees it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmaker Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 So, today on the way to work, I was driving. For a minute I thought I was hallucinating the road in front me. Then I thought "Hey, I must also be hallucinating the car I'm in". So I opened the hallucinated door, rolled out onto the hallucinated highway. Woke up in a hallucinated hospital. It's a good thing too, b/c I hallucinated the bill as well. What I am to understand here, is that folks that do not know each other, or have ever been 'into' bigfoot, just randomly decide to hallucinated ape-men? How many fire breathing dragon hallucinations are out there? What compels people to call the police to report their manifested hallucinations? For those that experience hallucinations (several in this thread apparently). I implore you to PLEASE not drive, not own firearms, not breed, not own pets, not to use sharp objects, and not to use a stove. Apparently these hallucinations can manifest in near physical form. (For the record, I've experienced hallucinations as well. Man, college was great! But I've never felt compelled to be traumatized by it, or called the police) You assume they are telling the truth about having an event at all. Perhaps the entire sighting some report is a fabrication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotter Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 ^True, and I know you and I can both agree there are those out there that are doing nothing but making stuff up and putting it on the net (for attention, money, muddying the waters). But then, there are those that don't fit that criteria above. And somehow managed to hallucinate an ape-man. So realistically that they change their behaviors b/c of it. That they, and their pal they were with, both hallucinated the same thing. And continued to do so as they were escorted off the side of a mountain. Then, several months later, have an identical hallucination with a new person. Whereas this new person get reduced to a curled up ball of sobbing mess until the sun comes up. Then heads off the mountain leaving all but his shotgun behind, refusing to ever return. The BF phenom is like a prime piece of meat, but surrounded by inches upon inches of fat that needs to be trimmed. When you get down to the 'good stuff', well.....it's the good stuff. And I now know too many folks that have had these types of experiences to not seriously consider the possibility. Of course, the one feller (me) that most needs a sighting has not had one, not even close. So all I can do is clickety clack on a keyboard, milling over the probabilities and possibilities in my head, and of course fire back and forth with folks like you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 What sort of thing do you check for? Depends on he hallucinations sometimes. Feeling "not right" is one thing I look for but often won't really notice until I'm coming out of it. Sometimes I can notice through the "fog" that things are amiss but still I will not usually notice it until the hallucination starts to fade. Then there are the ones that I can figure out while I'm going through them. Doesn't necessarily make them go away but sometimes they do when they are "caught." Sometimes I can see that the hallucination tracks with my line of sight, sometimes I notice that the images are not so distinct. I sometimes think my hallucinations are pretty lazy and cut back on the details to save time or effort. I usually chalk up disappearing joggers and cyclists to hallucinations. It varies. There you go again. Not even those who conducted the perception studies you cite go so far as to claim that all people misperceive all of the time, yet you persist in asserting this. So I can only conclude that this is a matter of obstinance and that further argument would simply be a case of everyone getting dirty and the pig loving it. "It" being the attention received. No one here is claiming that everyone misperceives all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDL Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 But some have claimed that all bigfoot witnesses are mistaken all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incorrigible1 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Conversely, there are those thinking any movement in the woods is bigfoot, that bigfoot exists in "pest" numbers in some locations, that bigfoot regularly forays into civilization. "He is here, he is there, he is everywhere, so beware." Mark of the Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 The BF phenom is like a prime piece of meat, but surrounded by inches upon inches of fat that needs to be trimmed. When you get down to the 'good stuff', well.....it's the good stuff. And I now know too many folks that have had these types of experiences to not seriously consider the possibility. Except I just had a steer grade prime with only 4/10ths of fat, no trimming needed, its all in the genetics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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