Yuchi1 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Thr (publically available) plat map shows the Branson 10 acre plot is esconched in a cluster of similar parcels over a ~80 acre area with larger private holdings adjacent to them. The closest public access land (Honobia Creek GMA) is ~1/2 mile away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Hairyman Was a police report actually filed regarding the Echo Incident? I know you contacted a police officer, but did the victim ever file a police report? Was your 2000 dollar settlement a deal with the courts? or did that occur without actual court involvement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernyahoo Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 yuchi1 said There is UHS activity in other areas of that region as well as other locations in Oklahoma that I have personal experience with over the past ~12 years. With what I know (regarding possible UHS activity) in the area in question, given the number of claims coming off a 10 acre parcel of land and with the dearth of forensic evidence proffered and behaviour (lately) of the principals, it is not a leap in logic to ask, what's the deal? This would be the best condensed explanation of the pointed questions in this thread. This thread was suppose to be for public dissemination of the events happening at area X. However, there was a flaw in the idea since NAWAC wanted to keep the location of area X a secret and not show too many phographs of the area and or their camp layout etc. They also want to educate people about the woodapes but do not wish to collect much in the way of circumstantial evidence. Well, science needs evidence at the foundation to educate anyone, so the education part is the cart before the horse. That is what causes the friction along with the varied opinions about the anecdotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted July 14, 2014 Admin Share Posted July 14, 2014 I guess you don't realize how small a 10 acre plot is. We would restrict our deer hunting to Bow and Arrow when we had 10 acres or less. The bottom or rectangular 10 acre plot is what most of the parcels are here in Michigan. I don't know what they have there in Oklahoma, either way, the property border is well within the range of any shotgun. I would hope that they maintain strict firearm discipline when out hunting the apes. Yuchi1 just told us that he is a leaseholder on the next parcel over. And you accept this as fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Accept what as a fact? That 10 acres means any firearm discharge is at most 330 feet from the next parcel? Or that the NAWAC is operating on a 10 acre plot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted July 14, 2014 Admin Share Posted July 14, 2014 Accept what as a fact? That 10 acres means any firearm discharge is at most 330 feet from the next parcel? Or that the NAWAC is operating on a 10 acre plot? Do we accept as fact that Yuchi is a next door neighbor? As for your 330 foot thing? That means very little. Is the parcel flat and barren or are there natural backstops? The gun club I belong to is about that size and is between a state highway and a housing development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockape Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Hairyman Was a police report actually filed regarding the Echo Incident? I know you contacted a police officer, but did the victim ever file a police report? Was your 2000 dollar settlement a deal with the courts? or did that occur without actual court involvement? I really don't know why you keep at this. Whatever the case, it was settled and apparently everyone was happy, including law enforcement. And as far as I know, the entire area around Area X is comprised of hunting leases. If that is not the case I'd appreciate someone providing the correct information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotter Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Has anyone poured the coals to the neighboring properties to make sure they aren't lobbing shells into Area X?Sounds like they're surrounded by a pile of out of staters hunting, poaching, and drug cartelling. I think the concern is misplaced here and the NAWAC should be the ones in full body armor. Do we know if any of the neighbors hunt squirrel or small game? Those small bore rifles can travel several miles. I'd hate to think of some city folk shooting at a running rabbit or squirrel through the canopy. I bet that there's lead just raining down through the entire area. *rolls eyes* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSA Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 ("You see Larry, you see what happens....?") It would seem the discussion of anything really salient vis-a-vis the NAWAC and area X went MIA many pages ago. The information vacuum created by Bipto's inability to respond RIGHT NOW DAMMMIT! to the questions concerning the now-infamous tree incident (and many, many of the same , tired agendas re-posted under the guise of new questions) spun this topic out of control for good and for always, clearly. To the extent I might have contributed to that, I for one sincerely regret it, and I don't plan to repeat that. More of the same from any of us is not going to do anyone any good, in my opinion. My vote would be to put a merciful bullet in the brainpan of this thread, kick some dirt over it and move on. Those who want to follow the NAWAC's activities have other resources at our disposal, looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Well, the reason I brought it up again, was that I just read the definition of Reckless Endangerment, and I think that the Echo Incident fits the bill for that charge. I am wondering if a Police Report was filed, and the prosecutor determined no charges would be filed. Or if a police report was never filed. I would think if law enforcement was brought in, there should be some sort of a report on file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockape Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I doubt someone panicking at the sound of gunshots as long as the gun was legally discharged would qualify as "reckless endangerment", but you'd have to research the Oklahoma law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted July 14, 2014 Admin Share Posted July 14, 2014 Egads, he is running for Sheriff.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 No, I'm not, but if someone said they had several rounds fired within 50 yards of their location, even on private property, I'd be investigating. And "we thought we were shooting a Bigfoot" would definitely be in my report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted July 14, 2014 Admin Share Posted July 14, 2014 Good for you. Now can we please move on? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmaker Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Has anyone poured the coals to the neighboring properties to make sure they aren't lobbing shells into Area X? Sounds like they're surrounded by a pile of out of staters hunting, poaching, and drug cartelling. I think the concern is misplaced here and the NAWAC should be the ones in full body armor. Do we know if any of the neighbors hunt squirrel or small game? Those small bore rifles can travel several miles. I'd hate to think of some city folk shooting at a running rabbit or squirrel through the canopy. I bet that there's lead just raining down through the entire area. *rolls eyes* All that lead, not a single wood ape harvested yet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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