Cotter Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 ^Are you sure it wasn't Brett Favre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDL Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I am deeply grateful that your experiences have given you soooo much good information that you share so willingly here -- but I think one piece of information that others have provided (and that I have access to, too, from my own experience) is that many BF are very, very intuitive and pick up lots of information about us that we are unaware we are sharing with them. A human might freak out that a 12-year-old child displayed confidence, because we don't have much clarity about anything.... But I don't think a BF would. They would just see your confidence. From my own experiences of their very amazing acuity, I doubt very much that the BF you encountered felt anything but curiosity about you. It is probably a mistake for either of us to assert that our experiences are representative of all bigfoot and of all encounters. We both offer contributions to the larger knowledge base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWWASAS Posted June 12, 2014 BFF Patron Share Posted June 12, 2014 Good one MPH!. I suspect that they are not used to having someone say no either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 For them, its like looking at a bunch of little rabbits, they are not worried about a few kids. You probably woke him up. Was his shoulder width, like really huge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LarryP Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I had some issues with bigfoot stalking me a few years back. Peeping in my windows while I was changing, sending obscene photographs, heavy breathing on the phone, etc. How unfunny.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeafTalker Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I not only talk to BF when I think they are near or stalking me I go towards them. Probably dangerous but I want to get video. I figure they hide but if you get close enough they will walk away. You might get a growl before they do move away. Like I said I backed out when I did get growled at that time. If it feels cornered it could get very dangerous...... ....I would not be surprised if the BF in my normal area would protect me from the dogs. They have left gifts for me even though I normally do not do gifting. Randy As you probably already know, I don't think you're in any danger from them, for any reason. They know you're not out to hurt them, and I think it's very hard to make a BF feel cornered. About walking toward them: You could try asking for permission before you approach. That's what I've done. I had one chattering cheerfully at me non-stop, and I could hear where the sound was coming from, so I said, 'May I approach?', and then walked toward the sound. Unfortunately, the sound then stopped. I thought, 'Okay, that's fair', and I retreated to the spot I'd been in when the chattering was going full throttle -- and when I got back to my spot, the chattering resumed. Very interesting, and a lot of fun. Someday he'll keep talking, even after I've approached -- but we're not quite there yet. Anyway, it's so cool to hear about your experiences. It's great that you're so unafraid of them, and it's clear that your genuine interest and capacity for empathy are paying off. You have a kind of no-nonsense, we're-all-equals attitude that must be hugely refreshing to them. And I'm quite sure you're right that, if dogs were bothering you in an area where there were individuals you knew, you would get some help from them. I am sorry to hear about the dogs, though, and glad that you didn't end up getting any closer to them. I know you've said that genuine communication is a goal of yours. It seems you're in a really good position to have that happen (and it's actually already happening). I have to confess, I'm crossing my fingers you'll get tired of the camera thing (as they clearly are), because I think your communications will really start to blossom then, and I'm excited to see that happen for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeafTalker Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) P.S. Wag, you said a while back you think the BF get sick of us and want nothing to do with us. I think that's true of a lot of BF. But like many people who become weary of war and fighting and start to work for change, some BF just get worn out by the fear of us and start to be hopeful about, and look forward to, a day when they don't have to avoid us and be afraid of us anymore. So some are pretty receptive to people, for that reason. They're not looking for "proof" that people are okay; they're just looking for a cessation of the stupid, endless hostility. I've heard people say, "I want to make contact with a BF, just to show them we're not all bad." I always want to respond, "Too late!" And then I want to go a little further and say, You don't have to take the burden of the world on your shoulders. This wasn't broken in a day, and it's not likely it will be fixed in a day (although technically speaking, it would be entirely possible to do). But there is something you can do. You can give an individual, a family, a break from fear. You can cut them some slack. You can be a nice surprise that day, or for many days. That's worth something, I think. Edited June 13, 2014 by LeafTalker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LarryP Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 relax I'm very relaxed. If you want to be snarky, that's your perogative. Just try to be a lot more imaginative and actually humorous when you do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWWASAS Posted June 13, 2014 BFF Patron Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) Leaftalker: I would not go so far to say I am unafraid. Actually as you described with your situation, I try to respect their boundaries and back off when I think I need to. If they sense some level of fear in me, I think perhaps that might make them more comfortable. Sort of a mutual respect thing going in that case. If they did not fear us they would make no attempt to hide. So I think they do fear us to some extent. I think me exhibiting some fear and respect for their size and power is a simple form of respect. A good example of that with real mountain gorillas, can be seen watching "Gorillas in the Mist" The big males will do intimidation chest thumping behavior and expect respectful submission in return. When that is given, they back down. Us humans do the same thing with each other but in less aggressive and threatening manner. When I was zapped I asked them stop, which they did, and continued on talking at length about how I thought the clear cutting was wrecking their forest. Told them it made me sad etc. I have no idea if they understood anything, but at least the zapping stopped and they seemed to stop using infrasound all together because it stopped on the recording about the same time my fear level began to drop. I think because the immediate area where they seemed to frequent, had been clear cut just in the preceding few days, they were very stressed and frustrated with humans in general and took it out on me. I had been there frequently and they might have even thought I had something to do with it. Oh my cameras are never out in plain view but packed away or covered up. So unless they know what I know, they cannot even know I have them. If I have a close face to face I would not want to spoil it and anger them by displaying a camera. However, as sometimes happens, witnesses see a BF engrossed in catching fish or digging up rodents and are not aware they are being observed and for sure I would take that opportunity to photograph them. Randy Edited June 13, 2014 by SWWASASQUATCHPROJECT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) I'm very relaxed. If you want to be snarky, that's your perogative. Just try to be a lot more imaginative and actually humorous when you do it. lighten up Edited June 13, 2014 by mbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 How unfunny.... Really? I thought it was really funny. Maybe we should focus on the topic at hand instead of going out of our way to call people out and critique their humor because it doesnt appeal to us specifically. Only one of us is being "snarky" here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LarryP Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Sorry Forest, but some peoples sense of humor (and subsequent idea of snarkiness) are much more highly developed than others. A good analogy would be people who prefer the music of Mariah Carey over Van Morrison. Or those who think Andrew "Dice" Clay is funnier than George Carlin. Nonetheless, I have done far more to contribute to the topic of this thread than has MBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgerm Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 ok, nuffs......e nuff........ Interesting point someone made, that BF might parallel us since it can keep an eye on us while we wander in an area where its family is occupying. Good to know since this behavior can be misinterpreted as aggressive and predatory. Is it? Those who disappear tell no tales. Recently a report was relayed to me about a lady and her two kids that were paralleled during their one hour hike. She was really traumatized and hiking my not be on her list anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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